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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On February 21 2012 08:14 Toadesstern wrote: the big issue here (imo) is, that this policy lynch is based on a single game. At least arkham city was the first time I saw tyrann I think, don't know about you. Policy lynching because of a single bad game is complete and utter bullshit. If we start doing that we're not done policy-lynching for the next couple weeks. Heck, I shot 3 townies, want to policy lynch me as well because of that and ignore the other 6 games I did? If this guy shows up and changes his attitude he is fine imo. If he 's not he's getting lynched if there's noone else screaming mafia. Why the big defense on Tyrran? It's the start of the game, he's got only 3 votes on him and no one has actually said anything about WHY they want to lynch him. No one said they want to lynch him based on his arkham city performance. Where did you get that idea from? The policy lynch discussion is based around redFF and how he's spamming, not tyrran. | ||
DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On February 21 2012 08:19 redFF wrote: PEOPLE PEOPLE PEOPLE The game has been going on for an hour, my suggestion of a policy lynch does not mean I don't want anyone to scumhunt. It's an excellent way to generate discussion, which it has. VE's post is hypocritical because he's calling me scum for pushing a policy lynch when he himself was pushing a policy lynch up until that post, when it arbitrarily became a scum lynch. Consider him my first moderately scummy read. You're better than this. He never ever said your PL position was bad, but that you are spammy. Please read posts before you start OMGUSing. Considering you have time to spam you should have time to read. | ||
redFF
United States3910 Posts
On February 21 2012 08:13 VisceraEyes wrote: What I'd read in the thread up to the point of my vote stood to prove you guilty of what I accused you of Red, don't "derp" me. You were spamming the thread already when I posted that and have continued to do so after I proposed a policy lynch of it. But you know, whatever. The fact that you're so vocal about this Policy Lynch discussion tells me that you're trying to hollowly contribute to the thread, because a VI Policy Lynch, no matter how you slice it, isn't designed to lynch scum. And no matter how much you say "it generates discussion", when that's all you're discussing, it doesn't add anything constructive to the thread either. Therefor, I'm upgrading you from a Spam Policy Lynch to a full-fledged Scum Lynch. Congratulations RedFF. Now die. He wanted to policy lynch me because i spam, he then changed it to a scum lynch because all i was doing was talking about the policy lynch, when all he has done is push a policy lynch on me and discuss policly lynching up until the above lynch. That's not misrepresentation. | ||
chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On February 21 2012 08:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote: You're better than this. He never ever said your PL position was bad, but that you are spammy. Please read posts before you start OMGUSing. Considering you have time to spam you should have time to read. And you need to read better. red is saying VE's vote on him was him pushing for a policy lynch while at the same time he is criticizing him for pushing a policy lynch on tyrran. Re: Spammy RedFF Never fails to live up to expectations. Red you really don't have to comment on every little thing with a 1-liner response. My PL on you stands until I get a scum-read on someone. That is a big problem. Care to respond VE? | ||
redFF
United States3910 Posts
On February 21 2012 08:28 redFF wrote: He wanted to policy lynch me because i spam, he then changed it to a scum lynch because all i was doing was talking about the policy lynch, when all he has done is push a policy lynch on me and discuss policly lynching up until the above post. That's not misrepresentation. bolded what I fixed. | ||
Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On February 21 2012 08:21 chaoser wrote: Why the big defense on Tyrran? It's the start of the game, he's got only 3 votes on him and no one has actually said anything about WHY they want to lynch him. No one said they want to lynch him based on his arkham city performance. Where did you get that idea from? The policy lynch discussion is based around redFF and how he's spamming, not tyrran. I'm not even defending him. If you look up what I said before that you'll see that I even mentioned that it's not people who are lynching him, it's pressure to make him change his attitude and not a real lynch, unless of course he's not changing a thing. I'm barly stating that I don't like policy lynches based off a single game and yeah that's what I thought when I read the first couple of posts. So if you got another reason to policy lynch feel free to link me something because I only remember arkham city. And again, this is not a defence on anyone. The only reason we're talking about Tyrann is because redFF voted him. I'd do the same thing if people wanted to policy lynch someone else, that's why is said "policy lynches based on a single game" are complete and utter bullshit and never said policy lynching tyrann is stupid, although the 2nd one obviously concludes out of my first statement. | ||
VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
My accusation: redFF is defending the notion of a Policy Lynch in an attempt to appear contributory to the thread by posting irrelevant defenses of a VI Policy Lynch. redFF's accusation of me: VE is a hypocrite because he's calling me scum for pushing a Policy Lynch, but pushes a Policy Lynch of me at the same time Pushing a Policy Lynch = Pushing a Policy Lynch While I agree that what you started doing, pushing a VI policy lynch of Tyran and what I did, push for your lynch based on your spammy nature are one and the same.... Pushing a Policy Lynch =/= Hollowly Contributing to Thread Attempting to Appear Pro-Town ...what you're doing isn't "Pushing a policy lynch" anymore. You're now defending your decision to push a policy lynch. Why? Who the fuck cares? All it was designed to do was generate discussion anyway right? Because you're actually REALLY interested in lynching scum, correct? So why would you be defending your Policy Lynch? My guess is to appear pro-town by keeping active and posting in thread - but your contributions are meaningless because they're not designed to look for scum - they're specifically designed to defend your Policy Lynch. Furthermore, what I did wasn't even PUSH A POLICY LYNCH. I suggested one, and defended myself when you attacked my reasoning for selecting the subject of my Policy Lynch, but I haven't been posting ad nauseum about the merits of Policy Lynches or argue about it. This leads me to the conclusion that.... VE =/= Hypocrite ...but obviously I'm not going to convince you am I red? | ||
DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On February 21 2012 08:29 chaoser wrote: And you need to read better. red is saying VE's vote on him was him pushing for a policy lynch while at the same time he is criticizing him for pushing a policy lynch on tyrran. That is a big problem. Care to respond VE? No, it's not a problem. I disagree with the policy lynch in general but I really don't see how VE is contradicting himself at all. Supporting a policy lynch does not mean you can't be critical of RedFF posting a lot of one liners and talking about it/defending it so vehemently. He isn't accusing of redFF for being scum for supporting a PL anyway, or even for "pushing" it. He never said those words. It's an invented case. I'm voting for red. | ||
redFF
United States3910 Posts
Why is my suggesting of policy lynching tyrran "Hollowly Contributing to Thread Attempting to Appear Pro-Town" while your suggestion of policy lynching me isn't. Nothing you've said there makes me scummy. It makes us agree on whether a policy lynch is a good thing, but it doesn't make me scummy. | ||
redFF
United States3910 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On February 21 2012 08:00 redFF wrote: I know, its just blazinghand seemed to expressing familiarity with them. I'm not denying that good cases are made day 1. It's just that more often than not, its a townie lynch. I disagree. There are points where a player is so useless and terrible that they are objectively bad. It creates early day 1 discussion, something I think it has done this game, so that's one good thing. It also forces the person to post and post constructively, something they may not do otherwise. It doesn't only create arguments about whether a policy lynch is justified, it creates discussion about different things, as we have already seen. Yes it is, so why not get rid of dead weight. I don't disagree, a policy lynch is simply a suggestion. No shit, policy lynching doesn't FORCE EVERYONE TO STOP ANALYSING. yes but it helps. derp Everyone read this post. "Pushing his Policy Lynch" would include Tyran's name somewhere right? It would be like, explaining why Tyran deserves to be lynched, why he's VI, something. But there's nothing. All there is can be boiled down to the statement "Defending His Decision to Policy Lynch". This entire post is designed not to get votes on Tyran, but to keep votes OFF himself. It's defensive in nature, and in my opinion damning as hell. | ||
Tyrran
France777 Posts
For those who migth not know me very well, here is my meta, based on 3 games so far : If I'm active and usefull, i'm town (cf steamship mafia), otherwise I'm scum (cf Purgatory mafia)or playing badly ( cf arkham city). Also, just to bring my 2 cents on the ongoing discution i'm not supporting any policy lynch today. The reason simply being that I dont know you guys well enough to dinstinguish what is your typical scum play vs your town play. @RedFF : Generating discution is fine. But please be coherent with yourself and do not spoil what could be constructive discution with spam. | ||
Tyrran
France777 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On February 21 2012 08:40 redFF wrote: Nothing I've done is scummy and this is not going to get off the ground so enjoy your lonely wagon ve and drh. Defensively misrepresenting other players arguments seems scummy to me. You're just contributing another negative oneliner devoid of content. If you're not scum, you're really careless. | ||
redFF
United States3910 Posts
Anyway VE you know as well as I do that TLMAFIA has never had a polcy lynch go through and the likelyhood of one happening today was pretty much 0. The policy lynch suggestion and push was more a way to get get reactions and generate discussion(which it succeeded at). thanks tyyran, ##unvote VE is also back to null, this looks like dumb bc shooting ve-town being dumb bc shooting ve-town. | ||
redFF
United States3910 Posts
On February 21 2012 08:46 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Defensively misrepresenting other players arguments seems scummy to me. You're just contributing another negative oneliner devoid of content. If you're not scum, you're really careless. I'm fairly sure carelessness is a towntell if anything, so thanks for saying im acting like town? | ||
kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On February 21 2012 08:48 redFF wrote: The policy lynch suggestion and push was more a way to get get reactions and generate discussion(which it succeeded at). thanks tyyran, ##unvote VE is also back to null, this looks like dumb bc shooting ve-town being dumb bc shooting ve-town. So to be clear, you did not have a mafia epiphany causing a change in playstyle to support policy lynches? Instead you pushed the policy simply to generate discussion? | ||
redFF
United States3910 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On February 21 2012 08:51 redFF wrote: No I still like and would be down with a policy lynch but I know realistically it probably won't happen. Well certainly not with that attitude. Any more questions anyone? Let's get this show on the road. Votes on redFF. | ||
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