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On February 02 2011 05:39 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2011 05:05 bumatlarge wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 02 2011 04:43 Kavdragon wrote:Right, enough about the BG's. I think that we should give our blues some direction. This idea is coming from BC's thread on town play. Blues, feel free to take or leave our advice. The discussion is as much for you Blues as it is for Vanilla townies. If people are going to suggest things, be specific. Call people out by name, don't generalize. It's really easy for scum to hid in the crowd of people saying "we should dt check inactives". It's much harder for them to post specific requests for DT/Medic/Vig hits, and when they do, it gives us WAY more information about mafia than general "good" advice. I'll start: DT's: Beneather's alignment will be shown by who dies first, me or him. Do not waste time on him. Papapanda comes off as very scummy to me, but this could simply be because he's new. I'd highly recommend him for a DT check. (Constantly apologizing for himself, very tentative about his ideas/opinions. Very typical of newer scum players.) Medics: Mafia made a play for GMarshal after I called for Medics to protect LunarDestiny. You caught this before, so keep up the work with the wifom. LunarDestiny is still a good heal target. GMarshal is also a good target, in case the mafia make a play for eliminating the census again. Vig: My request for a hit on Zerroth still stands. If a DT hit D3, thank you, sorry that he turned out town. Regardless of whether a DT hit him or not, the inactives felt pressure and posted more. I see no reason to stop the pressure. Vet's: Speak up, be active. You have the privilege of being able to speak out without worrying for your life. This will allow other blues to come out a contribute as the mafia will be avoiding Vets, and at the very least sets up some good wifom shields. Don't forget mason as well. He should be blue hunting. DT will probably need to claim and give some results tomorrow. BGs are always good, and try your best to predict a hit (someone who becomes very vocal at a certain point, someone who catches your eye). Unless a vig feels very vulnerable, I think he should save hits from people like zerroth or D3 and wait for a situation where we KNOW someone is red. But of course, pop it if you are in danger. If jackal is a vet I am worried for what the rest of our vets are like. I also need this Beneather/jackal situation explained. I've gone through their posts, and feel little difference in the motives of both. Further, Ben is a BG and Jackal has claimed vet, while I find it remarkably convenient for him to have, especially when he hasn't acted like a vet this whole game. If you are going to slide jackal the inexperienced card, I don't see why ben doesn't. And we aren't going to be looking at clues so hard after the nemesis thing? Hm... When you judge someone, spread it into three parts, and keep them separate. Behavior comes first, then the information available and then clues. Don't disregard them, you just need to develop an eye for them, which I obviously haven't yet -_- If there is no information available about that person, then you can extend the analysis into 2/3 of your opinion. That sheep pic is cruel, but helpful, as it is likely that nemesis is town and not SK. Bum is 0 for 2! I'll accept full responsibility for poor veteran play on my part. Yes I'm new. Yes this is the first time I've had a role other than vanilla townie. Do I see where I've made errors? Yes. Will it improve my play in future games? Of course. Can I change anything I've done up to this point? No. And I have yet to have anybody tell me how a veteran should play. Nor have I seen anything special in the other games I've been in to identify a player as vet. They've all been lynched in the games I've been in. None claimed flat out to be a vet prior to being lynched. Although I do believe either RoL or LSB claimed to be blue without being specific. And without any result. They were still lynched. Town went on to lose. So I claim what I am. I have no prior precedent to look at except lynched Vets. That doesn't help town. So I claim what I am. I don't know if my claim prevented my lynch. But I'm still an extra townie with an extra night life.
Alright alright, veteran isn't tough, but I can see where you are coming from. Mafia wins by outnumbering town right? So it controls lynches and hits freely. Town does not lynch scum, then there is a set number of days until mafia wins. Let's forget about SK, and take this game as an example. Mafia have 2kp.
31 players, 9 dead, 5 mafia left. That gives us 17 townies left. Let's say 2 people die tomorrow as well so we are at 15. Now if 2 people die every night and we lynch a townie everyday, we have until Day 7 before we lose. You can imagine with the SK as well this day will come sooner. Now we could lynch flawlessly and SK can hit some mafia, but so far that isn't happening for us. We need townies to buy us time. Medics extend this LYLO (lynch or lose) when they successfully protect someone. This job is pretty tough, because they have to predict who will get hit while staying alive themselves, and still participate in the game so as not to draw suspicion. Veterans have a much easier time. They can be as vocal as possible AND SHOULD BE. They try to get hit. when you are hit, you claim it viola we have a townie. Now there are ways of fakeclaiming this, but there are also ways of checking it, like DTs. You getting hit buys us time and keeps you alive to give your town opinion.
In your case, I would have said I was blue, which is the truth. This helps you stay alive, and makes mafia want to hit you if they fear a any of the other roles, and you "do your job". Pretty staright-forward.
I'm willing to give jackal a chance, because at worst he is an inexperienced SK, but most likely he actually is a veteran, and it makes sense after looking through his posts that he is a newer blue player. If I see a reference to Big Ben in the day post, he's screwed, and Im going to murder LSB if jackal is town.
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so umm no night post or what?
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just in case i die.
heres my FOS list
Nemesis
Impervious
Beneather
LunarDestiny
zerroth
darmousseh
Eti307
Divinek
CubEdIn
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
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Day 4
Harmlessly passing your time in the grassland away;
And laughing and singing the masked man ran along
And laughing and singing he shot Kitaman
And laughing and singing he ran along
Only dimly aware of a certain unease in the air.
There is only so far that I am willing to plunge. There is one place on this god-forsaken island. One place that I refuse to go. It is the caves.
Those lightless caverns. I’ve tried avoiding it. But one night I heard screams, echoing off each other in that dark expanse and making their contorted way into the night.
I made my way into the caves, and saw all that I needed to see. On the edge of the light, ilovejonn’s body sprawled on the floor. A beast hunched over him, an alien form that I had never seen before.
“I’m sorry. I do this for the greater good,” it growled, and then the ground cracked open under it, and it disappeared.
You'd better watch out!
I immediately headed back to the camp in order to find help. I grabbed the first person I saw, Deconduo and asked him to help me remove ilovejohn’s body.
Deconduo didn’t help me. As soon as he realized that I wanted him to go inside, he fled.
He didn’t get two steps before I killed him.
Serves him right.
There may be dogs about
Kitaman27 is dead.
ilovejonn is dead.
deconduo is dead.
Day 4 has begun! Time to lynch! Will the sheeple break out of their pen? We shall see!
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
Parting is such a sweet sorrow :o
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On February 02 2011 11:19 ilovejonn wrote:
Nemesis is dead fyi.
well aware of that
just because hes dead doesnt make him less likely to be scum.with no flips im saying that you should keep him in mind how he played and who he played when analyzing people.
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3 dead = 5 scum
no sk or vig?
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hey look. no steel shit in the day post.
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On February 02 2011 11:44 Kenpachi wrote:
hey look. no steel shit in the day post.
probably cause we lynched nemesis ?
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On February 02 2011 11:45 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2011 11:44 Kenpachi wrote:
hey look. no steel shit in the day post. probably cause we lynched nemesis ?
yea probably man.
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On February 02 2011 11:47 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2011 11:45 Coagulation wrote:On February 02 2011 11:44 Kenpachi wrote:
hey look. no steel shit in the day post. probably cause we lynched nemesis ? yea probably man.
high five
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Harmlessly passing your time in the grassland away;
And laughing and singing the masked man ran along
And laughing and singing he shot Kitaman
And laughing and singing he ran along
looks like a Vigi or SK Kill.
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We've been played so far. Nemesis was apparently not Mafia, or SK.
Number of Mafia remains: 5.
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“I’m sorry. I do this for the greater good,” it growled, and then the ground cracked open under it, and it disappeared.
actually ilovejonn hit looks like a vigi hit maybe.
“I’m sorry
greater good"
sounds town aligned..
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On February 02 2011 11:49 Kavdragon wrote:
We've been played so far. Nemesis was apparently not Mafia, or SK.
Number of Mafia remains: 5.
WTF is going on?
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If a vig hit someone they should claim otherwise they will probably get analyzed for clues.
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