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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19192 Posts
July 23 2011 13:27 GMT
#14141
You want Gallente Drone Spec as well, and you should add in EWAR Drone Interfacing to 4 or so at the end (ie: after you 4 your gunnery supports).
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pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
July 23 2011 13:31 GMT
#14142
On July 23 2011 21:49 Firebolt145 wrote:
Kizu I said common sense, not stupid-independence.


Well its hard to know what is actually common sense in a game of flying space ships as I assumed that most of us do not come from a back ground of flying real life space ships. I apologize if I took some liberties with what you meant as common sense.

In my experience, majority of fleets fail because people try to prioritize themselves (self preservation) over the fleet and don't trust in what FC tells them to do. Which is where my argument that I would FC myself if people could follow orders. What types of things would a new eve player know aside from warping out if they are about to die?
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
July 23 2011 13:40 GMT
#14143
On July 23 2011 22:31 pahndah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 21:49 Firebolt145 wrote:
Kizu I said common sense, not stupid-independence.


Well its hard to know what is actually common sense in a game of flying space ships as I assumed that most of us do not come from a back ground of flying real life space ships. I apologize if I took some liberties with what you meant as common sense.

In my experience, majority of fleets fail because people try to prioritize themselves (self preservation) over the fleet and don't trust in what FC tells them to do. Which is where my argument that I would FC myself if people could follow orders. What types of things would a new eve player know aside from warping out if they are about to die?

Nothing, thats why we keep them in rifters for a while.
Even the ones who are 5 years old but just joined us.
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
July 23 2011 13:57 GMT
#14144
On July 23 2011 22:40 Warri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 22:31 pahndah wrote:
On July 23 2011 21:49 Firebolt145 wrote:
Kizu I said common sense, not stupid-independence.


Well its hard to know what is actually common sense in a game of flying space ships as I assumed that most of us do not come from a back ground of flying real life space ships. I apologize if I took some liberties with what you meant as common sense.

In my experience, majority of fleets fail because people try to prioritize themselves (self preservation) over the fleet and don't trust in what FC tells them to do. Which is where my argument that I would FC myself if people could follow orders. What types of things would a new eve player know aside from warping out if they are about to die?

Nothing, thats why we keep them in rifters for a while.
Even the ones who are 5 years old but just joined us.


This guy's got my back. Thank you person!

Just got a 435 mil DG, if motbob's coming back, I might log on and start contracting too.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43558 Posts
July 23 2011 14:45 GMT
#14145
On July 23 2011 22:31 pahndah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 21:49 Firebolt145 wrote:
Kizu I said common sense, not stupid-independence.


Well its hard to know what is actually common sense in a game of flying space ships as I assumed that most of us do not come from a back ground of flying real life space ships. I apologize if I took some liberties with what you meant as common sense.

In my experience, majority of fleets fail because people try to prioritize themselves (self preservation) over the fleet and don't trust in what FC tells them to do. Which is where my argument that I would FC myself if people could follow orders. What types of things would a new eve player know aside from warping out if they are about to die?

A nanogang needs to know how the orders apply to them because a lot of initiative is required. It takes good situational awareness and a lot of manual piloting. The FC can't give individual orders to every component, they need to know how to fly and make smart decisions themselves.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
July 23 2011 15:39 GMT
#14146
On July 23 2011 23:45 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 22:31 pahndah wrote:
On July 23 2011 21:49 Firebolt145 wrote:
Kizu I said common sense, not stupid-independence.


Well its hard to know what is actually common sense in a game of flying space ships as I assumed that most of us do not come from a back ground of flying real life space ships. I apologize if I took some liberties with what you meant as common sense.

In my experience, majority of fleets fail because people try to prioritize themselves (self preservation) over the fleet and don't trust in what FC tells them to do. Which is where my argument that I would FC myself if people could follow orders. What types of things would a new eve player know aside from warping out if they are about to die?

A nanogang needs to know how the orders apply to them because a lot of initiative is required. It takes good situational awareness and a lot of manual piloting. The FC can't give individual orders to every component, they need to know how to fly and make smart decisions themselves.


Agreed, and I would categorize this as 'experience' in flying space ships. If this experience is what FB meant by common sense gained after a period of time than its just an argument of semantics I suppose and neither of us were on the same page and both of us were correct.

Also some one just dropped a ton of underpriced contracts. +150 mil me.
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
July 23 2011 16:53 GMT
#14147
On July 23 2011 19:08 motbob wrote:
Like last summer, I'm going to start a log of what I'm doing in EVE. I regret not doing this last winter.

Day 1

Assets: 354m isk
Liabilities: 300m isk
Wallet isk: 11m isk

Things started off well today. I realized that the contract refresh thing is absolutely not a problem, since I found a work-around that allows me to refresh 5 times every two minutes, as opposed to once every two minutes. Along with searching courier contracts, this means that I'm never waiting on the EVE system to roll over and let me refresh.

The new contract interface seems better. It's faster, it's easier to search for items, and it's easier to break down a contract with multiple faction items. As you can tell by my balance sheet, I made 54m today, buying some Sisters launchers and some Fed navy tracking links. Nowhere close to what the gosu mission runners in corp make yet, but I'm doing my best.

Also, no one with a lot of isk is on, so I have to wait for a loan.



Nice this is going to be interesting to follow. You can actually get even more refreshes in if you also add searching by "longest left" in your search rotation (since most people put up for 2 weeks)... this cuts down refresh time again :D as well as using the other "tricks" that you are talking about.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
carrion
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom87 Posts
July 23 2011 18:08 GMT
#14148
35 days to make money for a plex. One account with bad sec status. What do. Got 100m wallet thanks to kwark. Ratting? Trade/hauler Alt? Solo roam and ransom miners?
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 20:06:26
July 23 2011 18:57 GMT
#14149
You can make an alt and take it to hakeri, and train up for a salvaging destoyer. And follow around the Machariel/CNR fleet.

EDIT: On another note, I just found a 4x stacking error on a Gist C-type Large, netting around 750m (2 plex), and that took only a few seconds of luck. So its possible to just sit in Jita and make money, although its not very entertaining and takes some starting capital.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
July 23 2011 20:27 GMT
#14150
On July 24 2011 03:57 Pufftrees wrote:
You can make an alt and take it to hakeri, and train up for a salvaging destoyer. And follow around the Machariel/CNR fleet.

EDIT: On another note, I just found a 4x stacking error on a Gist C-type Large, netting around 750m (2 plex), and that took only a few seconds of luck. So its possible to just sit in Jita and make money, although its not very entertaining and takes some starting capital.


If only I didn't go to sleep for an hour and a half I could have snagged this contract too
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
July 23 2011 22:06 GMT
#14151
Eve is a sandbox game. There are many many ways to make money. For example:

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Johnny Business
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1251 Posts
July 23 2011 22:18 GMT
#14152
Don't worry I am in the process of creating alts for that right now!
Serious Business
ChinaRestaurant
Profile Joined May 2008
Austria324 Posts
July 23 2011 23:32 GMT
#14153
On July 24 2011 07:06 redtooth wrote:
Eve is a sandbox game. There are many many ways to make money. For example:

[image loading]


Wonder how CCP feels about openly advertising that...
SPAAAAAAACE
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
July 23 2011 23:39 GMT
#14154
On July 24 2011 07:18 Johnny Business wrote:
Don't worry I am in the process of creating alts for that right now!

(to buy that service)
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carrion
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom87 Posts
July 24 2011 00:06 GMT
#14155
http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-7-biggest-dick-moves-in-history-online-gaming_p2/

#1 ??
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
July 24 2011 01:20 GMT
#14156
O Glorious day!

First in Jita local
[01:06:42] Nameless Person X > WTB THONS INVUL

Later in a private chat after negotiation, I asked what hes putting it on
[01:08:41] Nameless Person X > well its for a tengu then :p

Anyways, +2billion on that (I picked up the Thon last month), and now I have a certain tengu to suicide gank. KARAHHHHHHHHH

Chance favors the prepared mind.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34501 Posts
July 24 2011 01:50 GMT
#14157
How much did you pick the Thons invuln up for?
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Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
July 24 2011 02:11 GMT
#14158
Paid 4.5, sold at 6.5 I probably should have negotiated more, he took my 6.5 offer without blinking an eye.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19192 Posts
July 24 2011 02:26 GMT
#14159
I have unilaterally decided to move our pub channel from SCBW to HATCHERY PUB
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34501 Posts
July 24 2011 03:07 GMT
#14160
Yay, yet another chat channel to have open and blinking endlessly.
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