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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
June 17 2012 21:16 GMT
#981
Damnit Snarfs, stop making this hard on me. You're supposed to be scum. Act like it!
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
June 17 2012 21:17 GMT
#982
Wouldn't be very useful thing to do if it were 48 hour days since you'd have 24 hours to figure out it wasn't the case, Zentor.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
June 17 2012 21:18 GMT
#983
That being you'd have 24 hours to realize it's 48 hour days instead of 24 hour days.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
June 17 2012 21:22 GMT
#984
The only thing still bothering me is the lack of a RB Night 3 and 4. There kind of has to be a scum RB due to the lack of night kills Night 1. BH was supposed to shoot Furerkip, but his shot didn't go through. We know that it couldn't have been Hyaach, because he was roleblocked, which means there has to be a scum RB in the game. That implies that Artanis wasn't lying about being RB'd Night 2, which makes him town.

However, no one has reported being RB'd Night 3 or 4, which is very disconcerting. We can believe that the scum RB chose to RB the night kills, but that requires just a bit of faith.

Believing Artanis' claim to have been RB'd Night 2 confirms him as town and confirms that my DT checks on both him and MrZentor are correct.

I'm still drudging through Navillus' and Snarfs' filters to make sure that I've read them correctly. Navillus' response to my earlier question would help me greatly in my read of him.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
June 17 2012 21:46 GMT
#985
See, Ghost, the problem is that Artanis is only confirmed town because of you.

Mafia could have easily not roleblocked anybody night 2, so Artanis could get "confirmed" town.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
June 17 2012 21:54 GMT
#986
I'm confirmed town because I've been acting in town's best interest since Day 1. If you're town (which I believe you are) then read up on filters, mine if you need it and the summary of notes I had on everyone here if you're too lazy to go through individual filters, which I hope you're not.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
June 17 2012 22:28 GMT
#987
@MrZentor: No, it doesn't work that way. Artanis is confirmed town because if the mafia has a roleblocker, there is almost no chance they have a framer/godfather. Without a scum RB, we still have to explain why Blazinghand's shot didn't go through.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
June 18 2012 11:11 GMT
#988
Alright, I know now for 99% certain that ghost's claim is correct.
To believe he's town, we have to assume:
-He checked who he checked
-He got greedy during MYLO and decided not to claim despite having a red check
I don't like the second one, but it's a TON more believable then what we have to assume if he's scum.
If you're scum and you're forging a fakeclaim, ESPECIALLY on LYLO, you want to make it as believable as possible. Now, to assume he's scum, you have to believe that he thought "Okay, I'm going to claim Detective, and in my claim I'm going to say I found scum on MYLO but decided not to claim because I got greedy. That's sure to be believable and will give me tons of credit!" Call it WIFOM, but I find it INCREDIBLY unlikely that scum decided it was a good idea to claim to have checked a red during MYLO. The only way it makes sense to me is the scenario ghost described. His earlier checks wouldn't really make sense for scum to claim either since these were not the people he was talking about at the time. Instead, it makes sense when you look at the game history altogether, not his filter specifically. This to me means he either wrote exactly what happened in his mind OR he was preparing to fakeclaim from the start.
I don't find the latter very likely, but let's assume he's been preparing this fakeclaim all game. Would it include claiming he checked a red during MYLO? If so, why?

Unless anyone can give a proper explanation for that, I'm 99% certain that Navillus and Snarfs are the remaining two mafia. The only possible way this can be false is if MrZentor is GF, but given the roles revealeed I find that unlikely and I had a town read on him to begin with. I'm very sure now.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 18 2012 17:08 GMT
#989
Day 5 Vote Count


Navillus (4)
Artanis[Xp]
MrZentor
ghost_403
Snarfs

ghost_403 (0)
Snarfs
MrZentor

Navillus is currently set to be lynched. The day ends in 5 hours at 22:00 GMT (+00:00). With 5 players alive, it takes 3 to lynch.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 18 2012 21:00 GMT
#990
1 hour remains in the day.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
June 18 2012 21:05 GMT
#991
Navillus, at least vote so you don't get modkilled. That'd be a pity.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 03:38:41
June 18 2012 22:04 GMT
#992
Night 5


[image loading]

The crisis-afflicted city was being purged day by day. Corpses lined back alleyways and once-pristine office buildings and terraces were lined with the litter of careless destruction. The small underground band of criminals was dwindling just as everyone else, however. While they thought they were rich with the spoils of their thefts, they failed to realize that dollar bills and shiny jewels cannot be eaten. By sundown on a particularly hot day the leader of the criminals was caught in the streets by one of the city's citizen mobs. They had recognized his status by his dirtied suit and the gold watch he still wore on his wrist. When searched, it was found that he had thousands of dollars stuffed into his inner pockets. Apparently, delirious from thirst and abandoned by his cronies, he had stumbled into the open and collapsed.

The mob felt no remorse as they lifted rocks and bricks, beating the thug to a pulp.

Navillus, mafia godfather was stoned to death by the mob.

Roughly 23 hours remain for night actions. After the action deadline is an hour for action resolution.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
June 18 2012 22:09 GMT
#993
So they did have a Godfather.
Well, that's great news, means MrZentor's definitely town. For Zentor to be Mafia Ghost would have to be mafia too, and we know there's only one mafia left. I also explained why it's extremely unlikely that Ghost is mafia, and this lynch proves it.
I expect I'm still dying tonight though since Snarfs can't kill ghost as it'll confirm he's a detective. He can't kill Zentor because I'm definitely voting him. Means all he can do is shoot me and hope to be able to convince Zentor he's town.
Zentor, if I die, please Vote Snarfs.
If no one dies tomorrow and you're uncertain we can choose to no lynch until mafia decides to shoot someone.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
June 18 2012 22:15 GMT
#994
What if Snarfs dies tonight? THEN WHAT.

[image loading]

loljk

I'm 90% sure Artanis is right on what to do. I'm going to give it a bit more thought, just to be 100% sure, and post my thoughts a bit before daybreak.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
June 18 2012 23:09 GMT
#995
Good.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
June 19 2012 00:26 GMT
#996
Zentor, if you have any doubts as to if we should lynch snarfs tomorrow, please express them in this night cycle so I can tell you why he must be lynched tomorrow.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
June 19 2012 16:41 GMT
#997
Bah, sorry for not coming on at all yesterday. To be honest this game has just been much more stressful than I anticipated and I needed a 24 hour break to maintain my sanity.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
June 19 2012 17:15 GMT
#998
So, snarfs, what do you think is going on in this game?
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
June 19 2012 17:26 GMT
#999
Snarfs, are you mafia?
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
June 19 2012 17:41 GMT
#1000
On June 20 2012 02:41 Snarfs didn't write
Yes I am.
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