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Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
August 23 2011 01:21 GMT
#81
On August 23 2011 10:20 zaii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 10:12 Canucklehead wrote:
I don't think MLG really thinks extended series is superior. They may say so publicly but I think they use it just to be different because no other tournament uses that because it's a terrible rule. They use it to stand out from the crowd.


use it to stand out.... Counter strike uses extended series, and I think that's where they got it from.


Oh believe me I know where they got the rule from. It's borrowed from the fps games they use it for and then they try to apply it to a completely different genre of game where it makes zero sense to use.
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Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
August 23 2011 01:59 GMT
#82
On August 23 2011 10:21 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 10:20 zaii wrote:
On August 23 2011 10:12 Canucklehead wrote:
I don't think MLG really thinks extended series is superior. They may say so publicly but I think they use it just to be different because no other tournament uses that because it's a terrible rule. They use it to stand out from the crowd.


use it to stand out.... Counter strike uses extended series, and I think that's where they got it from.


Oh believe me I know where they got the rule from. It's borrowed from the fps games they use it for and then they try to apply it to a completely different genre of game where it makes zero sense to use.

Why does it make sense for CS but nof SC?
How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
August 23 2011 02:03 GMT
#83
On August 23 2011 10:59 Emporio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 10:21 Canucklehead wrote:
On August 23 2011 10:20 zaii wrote:
On August 23 2011 10:12 Canucklehead wrote:
I don't think MLG really thinks extended series is superior. They may say so publicly but I think they use it just to be different because no other tournament uses that because it's a terrible rule. They use it to stand out from the crowd.


use it to stand out.... Counter strike uses extended series, and I think that's where they got it from.


Oh believe me I know where they got the rule from. It's borrowed from the fps games they use it for and then they try to apply it to a completely different genre of game where it makes zero sense to use.

Why does it make sense for CS but nof SC?


because they can't handle being down in a series? idk, just my guess.
Ladnil
Profile Joined July 2011
United States93 Posts
August 23 2011 05:42 GMT
#84
On August 23 2011 11:03 zaii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 10:59 Emporio wrote:
On August 23 2011 10:21 Canucklehead wrote:
On August 23 2011 10:20 zaii wrote:
On August 23 2011 10:12 Canucklehead wrote:
I don't think MLG really thinks extended series is superior. They may say so publicly but I think they use it just to be different because no other tournament uses that because it's a terrible rule. They use it to stand out from the crowd.


use it to stand out.... Counter strike uses extended series, and I think that's where they got it from.


Oh believe me I know where they got the rule from. It's borrowed from the fps games they use it for and then they try to apply it to a completely different genre of game where it makes zero sense to use.

Why does it make sense for CS but nof SC?


because they can't handle being down in a series? idk, just my guess.

The first time an underdog comes out from behind in the extended series to win a championship, you'll change your tune. Fucking exciting when that happens.
Have a nice day.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
August 23 2011 07:34 GMT
#85
I've got an interesting question, and I tried to ask it as eloquently as I could via Twitter, but it has quite a few limitations.

Has MLG considered reducing the number of players seeded into Pool Play based on MLG Points for Starcraft 2 to the Top 12? You could then host an Online Qualifier for 4 spots in Pool Play, as well as leaving room for 4 Korean Invites, and then 4 Open Bracket players.

This would have quite a few benefits from what I can think of:
1. Players "fresher" on the Starcraft scene have a better chance of coming into Pool Play, rather than so many players that really haven't kept up with the game (I'm not going to name any players I can think of, that's rather rude.)
2. Gives MLG a chance to acquire a LARGE amount of high quality, exclusive content before EACH MLG event. A 64 player Online Qualifier for MLG, which is a very prestigious event would yield an insane amount of talent clashing in what is sure to be some incredible series.
3. Imagine the hype of a rematch between someone who grabbed a Pool Seed in the qualifiers coming up against the player they eliminated, after he fought his way back in the vicious Open Bracket.

Just look at the TeamSpeak TL Open series. An online tournament with barely any prize money, and the spectacular players we see turn up for the glory alone is astounding, imagine if the prizes were 4 precious MLG seeds for hitting the Semi-Finals.

Just my two cents.
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sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
August 23 2011 07:41 GMT
#86
As the above, except make it 8 people advancing out of the open bracket and seeding the better open bracket players based on (reworked) mlg points forward a round would be just about perfect
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Officedrone
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada70 Posts
August 23 2011 07:51 GMT
#87
Love Virgil's idea. Definitely a great way to keep those pools fresh and, hopefully, more competitive. It's so disappointing and lackluster to see multiple people go 0-4, 0-5 in the pools.
LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
August 23 2011 07:56 GMT
#88
On August 23 2011 16:34 VirgilSC2 wrote:
I've got an interesting question, and I tried to ask it as eloquently as I could via Twitter, but it has quite a few limitations.

Has MLG considered reducing the number of players seeded into Pool Play based on MLG Points for Starcraft 2 to the Top 12? You could then host an Online Qualifier for 4 spots in Pool Play, as well as leaving room for 4 Korean Invites, and then 4 Open Bracket players.

This would have quite a few benefits from what I can think of:
1. Players "fresher" on the Starcraft scene have a better chance of coming into Pool Play, rather than so many players that really haven't kept up with the game (I'm not going to name any players I can think of, that's rather rude.)
2. Gives MLG a chance to acquire a LARGE amount of high quality, exclusive content before EACH MLG event. A 64 player Online Qualifier for MLG, which is a very prestigious event would yield an insane amount of talent clashing in what is sure to be some incredible series.
3. Imagine the hype of a rematch between someone who grabbed a Pool Seed in the qualifiers coming up against the player they eliminated, after he fought his way back in the vicious Open Bracket.

Just look at the TeamSpeak TL Open series. An online tournament with barely any prize money, and the spectacular players we see turn up for the glory alone is astounding, imagine if the prizes were 4 precious MLG seeds for hitting the Semi-Finals.

Just my two cents.


Well from the first episode with Sundance, he mentions how 2012 includes plans to change MLG from a thing happening a weekend every couple of weeks into a 40ish week long thing with seasons, so online qualifiers may very well proceed in that way.
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zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
August 23 2011 08:47 GMT
#89
On August 23 2011 16:56 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 16:34 VirgilSC2 wrote:
I've got an interesting question, and I tried to ask it as eloquently as I could via Twitter, but it has quite a few limitations.

Has MLG considered reducing the number of players seeded into Pool Play based on MLG Points for Starcraft 2 to the Top 12? You could then host an Online Qualifier for 4 spots in Pool Play, as well as leaving room for 4 Korean Invites, and then 4 Open Bracket players.

This would have quite a few benefits from what I can think of:
1. Players "fresher" on the Starcraft scene have a better chance of coming into Pool Play, rather than so many players that really haven't kept up with the game (I'm not going to name any players I can think of, that's rather rude.)
2. Gives MLG a chance to acquire a LARGE amount of high quality, exclusive content before EACH MLG event. A 64 player Online Qualifier for MLG, which is a very prestigious event would yield an insane amount of talent clashing in what is sure to be some incredible series.
3. Imagine the hype of a rematch between someone who grabbed a Pool Seed in the qualifiers coming up against the player they eliminated, after he fought his way back in the vicious Open Bracket.

Just look at the TeamSpeak TL Open series. An online tournament with barely any prize money, and the spectacular players we see turn up for the glory alone is astounding, imagine if the prizes were 4 precious MLG seeds for hitting the Semi-Finals.

Just my two cents.


Well from the first episode with Sundance, he mentions how 2012 includes plans to change MLG from a thing happening a weekend every couple of weeks into a 40ish week long thing with seasons, so online qualifiers may very well proceed in that way.


an online thing.. hm.. idk about that. I I think it was in the forbes article where Sundanced said they would fly players to their studio to play there games.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
August 23 2011 11:39 GMT
#90
On August 23 2011 16:56 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 16:34 VirgilSC2 wrote:
I've got an interesting question, and I tried to ask it as eloquently as I could via Twitter, but it has quite a few limitations.

Has MLG considered reducing the number of players seeded into Pool Play based on MLG Points for Starcraft 2 to the Top 12? You could then host an Online Qualifier for 4 spots in Pool Play, as well as leaving room for 4 Korean Invites, and then 4 Open Bracket players.

This would have quite a few benefits from what I can think of:
1. Players "fresher" on the Starcraft scene have a better chance of coming into Pool Play, rather than so many players that really haven't kept up with the game (I'm not going to name any players I can think of, that's rather rude.)
2. Gives MLG a chance to acquire a LARGE amount of high quality, exclusive content before EACH MLG event. A 64 player Online Qualifier for MLG, which is a very prestigious event would yield an insane amount of talent clashing in what is sure to be some incredible series.
3. Imagine the hype of a rematch between someone who grabbed a Pool Seed in the qualifiers coming up against the player they eliminated, after he fought his way back in the vicious Open Bracket.

Just look at the TeamSpeak TL Open series. An online tournament with barely any prize money, and the spectacular players we see turn up for the glory alone is astounding, imagine if the prizes were 4 precious MLG seeds for hitting the Semi-Finals.

Just my two cents.


Well from the first episode with Sundance, he mentions how 2012 includes plans to change MLG from a thing happening a weekend every couple of weeks into a 40ish week long thing with seasons, so online qualifiers may very well proceed in that way.

I didn't see this, so thank you. I really hope that doesn't effect the amount of live events we see, as someone traveling to MLG Raleigh this weekend.

In regards to another post: Yes, It's really disappointing to see players that are clearly NOT able to compete with the current top players getting seeded into pool play, while the Open Bracket continues to slaughter better players.

With LESS players seeded based on the whole MLG season (which is quite long in SC2 evolution), only the better players remain and more players are able to play their best (especially Koreans and Europeans who can't make EVERY MLG) without having to go through the slaughter that is the MLG Open Bracket.

As it is, with 16 Players seeded by MLG History and 4 Korean invites, and then 4 Open bracket players, we're seeing trends of Koreans taking groups undefeated, and then 1 other player taking the group convincingly, and then the 3 other players play pretty sub-par, and then the Open Bracket player comes in and shows up the 3 sub-par players in each pool (granted there ARE pools that don't go this way).

I'm tired and rambling but I think MLG could even get away with TWO online qualifiers each rewarding Pool Seeds to both players in the finals. It gives everyone a bit of benefit, except perhaps players that don't quite belong in pool play, but find themselves there anyway.
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MLG_Adam
Profile Joined July 2010
United States994 Posts
August 23 2011 14:36 GMT
#91
On August 23 2011 14:42 Ladnil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 11:03 zaii wrote:
On August 23 2011 10:59 Emporio wrote:
On August 23 2011 10:21 Canucklehead wrote:
On August 23 2011 10:20 zaii wrote:
On August 23 2011 10:12 Canucklehead wrote:
I don't think MLG really thinks extended series is superior. They may say so publicly but I think they use it just to be different because no other tournament uses that because it's a terrible rule. They use it to stand out from the crowd.


use it to stand out.... Counter strike uses extended series, and I think that's where they got it from.


Oh believe me I know where they got the rule from. It's borrowed from the fps games they use it for and then they try to apply it to a completely different genre of game where it makes zero sense to use.

Why does it make sense for CS but nof SC?


because they can't handle being down in a series? idk, just my guess.

The first time an underdog comes out from behind in the extended series to win a championship, you'll change your tune. Fucking exciting when that happens.



How about Idra vs MC?
Twitter: MrAdamAp
Carny
Profile Joined April 2009
Croatia284 Posts
August 23 2011 14:44 GMT
#92
On August 23 2011 23:36 MLG_Adam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 14:42 Ladnil wrote:
On August 23 2011 11:03 zaii wrote:
On August 23 2011 10:59 Emporio wrote:
On August 23 2011 10:21 Canucklehead wrote:
On August 23 2011 10:20 zaii wrote:
On August 23 2011 10:12 Canucklehead wrote:
I don't think MLG really thinks extended series is superior. They may say so publicly but I think they use it just to be different because no other tournament uses that because it's a terrible rule. They use it to stand out from the crowd.


use it to stand out.... Counter strike uses extended series, and I think that's where they got it from.


Oh believe me I know where they got the rule from. It's borrowed from the fps games they use it for and then they try to apply it to a completely different genre of game where it makes zero sense to use.

Why does it make sense for CS but nof SC?


because they can't handle being down in a series? idk, just my guess.

The first time an underdog comes out from behind in the extended series to win a championship, you'll change your tune. Fucking exciting when that happens.



How about Idra vs MC?


Yeah MC is indeed a very hard underdog, lol.
Shutting from the Sky
MLG Deimos
Profile Joined September 2010
United States652 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-23 14:46:34
August 23 2011 14:46 GMT
#93
On August 23 2011 09:41 RaVeNSeNtrY wrote:
I do have an MLG question:

How do you tell if you are registered for the event correctly? I signed up a while ago and got an email today telling me to complete the online registration today. I went to the site, but I had already entered in the information. Am I signed up correctly? How do I know?

Edit: I also sent an email asking the same question but got no reply.

The email went out to all SC2 Players for Raleigh. If you had already completed the Online Registration, you didn't have to go to Team Builder. The email was sent so everybody knew the check-in times, details of the event, etc. You should come to check-in on Friday between 10:30 AM and 5 PM to pick up your player wrist band.
MLG_Adam
Profile Joined July 2010
United States994 Posts
August 23 2011 14:46 GMT
#94
What I mean is, MC came back from 2-0 to win an extended series.
Twitter: MrAdamAp
SwampZero
Profile Joined September 2010
Greece350 Posts
August 23 2011 14:57 GMT
#95
Will there be European Timezone Restreams?
MLGrben
Profile Joined August 2010
United States129 Posts
August 23 2011 15:26 GMT
#96
On August 23 2011 23:57 SwampZero wrote:
Will there be European Timezone Restreams?


We restream the event all night once we are done going live. Additionally, if you purchase a Gold Membership of MLG the entire event has DVR functionality.
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SwampZero
Profile Joined September 2010
Greece350 Posts
August 23 2011 15:33 GMT
#97
awesome. So that's at least ~8 hours of restreaming, you can fit the entire show there probably, or most of it that matters
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-23 15:39:49
August 23 2011 15:35 GMT
#98
On August 23 2011 23:46 MLG_Adam wrote:
What I mean is, MC came back from 2-0 to win an extended series.

He was never the underdog though. Anyway it wasn't exciting because it had 1 decent game and 3 IdrA moments. It *was* hilarious however.

Just hope MLG does more to boot out the terrible players from group play, though I guess that's slooooooooooowly happening. Machine still there is just...
Slasher
Profile Joined September 2007
United States1095 Posts
August 23 2011 17:18 GMT
#99
On August 23 2011 10:09 Grettin wrote:
I can't wait for foreigner to win MLG again so Slasher shaves his head.

20,000 viewers on Lo3 or foreign winner.. WE ARE GETTING CLOSER!

I love you Slasher btw

It's never gonna happen so I ain't worried!
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
August 23 2011 17:59 GMT
#100
will MLG ever bring wow back? It was somewhat entertaining to watch, at least some of it. Since Blizzard had that b.net invitational for it I'm assuming they might've figured something out about spectating it with cata which was said to be the problem with it?
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