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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
Candide
Profile Joined November 2010
456 Posts
June 04 2012 01:32 GMT
#941
http://drop.sc/191171

Game vs Onthethrone, a simple google search will find that he mhs didn't do anything suspicious but aftter looking at the replay he literally plays blind and is perfectly content with that. ZvZ with 0 overlords etc we are both 1350+ point master mmr.

Check 15:35 at his vision then check the entire map. that is pretty much a dead giveaway.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
June 04 2012 01:35 GMT
#942
On June 04 2012 10:32 Candide wrote:
http://drop.sc/191171

Game vs Onthethrone, a simple google search will find that he mhs didn't do anything suspicious but aftter looking at the replay he literally plays blind and is perfectly content with that. ZvZ with 0 overlords etc we are both 1350+ point master mmr.

Check 15:35 at his vision then check the entire map. that is pretty much a dead giveaway.


Yeah he's already been reported here a few times. It's pretty clear he maphacks.
ShiNwave
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom41 Posts
June 04 2012 01:38 GMT
#943
On June 04 2012 08:24 VPFaith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2012 06:34 FabledIntegral wrote:
On June 04 2012 01:51 DaRkFrosT wrote:
I still don't understand the point of map hacking for Starcraft II. What kind of advantage does it give over good scouting? Can't you figure out every little thing the enemy player does by good scouting? IE Overlord speed, scans, multiple observers.


Do you even play the game then? :S. I'm pretty sure I could beat top Koreans regularly if I had a map hack. Think about it.

You don't NEED to use overlords to scout (thus sacking an overlord). You know immediately when they are doing anything. You know when they are expanding. You don't have to waste scans - you can mule instead. You don't have to waste robo timings - in fact, you don't even need to get a friggin' robo if you don't want.

It honestly should be one of the most self-explanatory things in the game on how there's an immense difference.


I agree with FabledIntegral in that map hack gives you huge huge advantage that you will be able to know exactly what your opponent is doing, building, and where his units are. It's like you are always 1 step ahead of your opponent, you will eliminate cheese, proxy, and tech builds. Not only strategies but also unit movement, drops, and current economy status.

I think most map hackers are usually protoss/zerg players because Protoss can get easily cheesed and zergs don't want to sacrifice overlords or wants to have perfect timing to make units and perfect timing to stop harassment before those things occur. Imagine when all Terran drops get shut down before it even lands and it just drag into a tier 3 zerg army Broodlords infestor queens. It's just really ez pz roll.


Terran save scan = mules. imba tbh... and metagame vs zerg a lot of times is to fake a push to force them into producing units rather than drones... but meh, mh probably makes you 3 times the player you are in general... and then its down to macro
ShiNwave.944 @ Eu
wonkman
Profile Joined March 2008
United States520 Posts
June 04 2012 01:58 GMT
#944
Got another one for Lucifer on NA ladder

Big things to note
- Never scans / only scans twice entire game for 2 observers
- Comes in with banshees at just the right place everytime
- 11:18 is the big one/ at my main
-Follows my army without scanning @ the last battle
http://drop.sc/191187
VPFaith
Profile Joined April 2011
United States261 Posts
June 04 2012 02:35 GMT
#945
It's funny how these map hackers use hacks and still has crappy win% lol!!!
Never Give Up
VPFaith
Profile Joined April 2011
United States261 Posts
June 04 2012 02:36 GMT
#946
I think drop-hackers are more OP, saves time and fast results ( Super results).
Never Give Up
michaelhasanalias
Profile Joined May 2010
Korea (South)1231 Posts
June 04 2012 02:43 GMT
#947
On May 29 2012 15:11 Silvertine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 06:59 ClanWISH wrote:
On May 29 2012 06:00 LGimbaASfuts wrote:
On May 29 2012 02:23 ClanWISH wrote:
Legit Gaming has multiple map hackers...


Would you mind providing proof of these multiple map hackers? We are trying really hard to filter and check players joining our A and B team. The following players have been dealt with as soon as we found out they map hacked.


+ Show Spoiler +

LGBolero and LGlightpnwer

LGBolero is now Impa. LGlightpwner is deying that he is hacking but i have replay proof for whoever wants to see it.


Uhhh....chobi, Intel ....

LGIntel does play very suspiciously. I didn't save the replays and they're not in my folder because they were from a while ago but he was blatantly reacting to my movements on the map without vision. I accidentally sent my lings towards his third and he started moving there. My lings turn around halfway there and head towards his natural, he reacts instantly moving back. He was also moving marines towards the ledge the second that my overlord moved in. He was doing things like that nonstop every game. Not to mention his game sense/counters were dead on without scouting while his micro/decision making were awful. And I've heard from a lot of people on ladder that he hacks.


No one else responded to this, but I just want to say you need to watch what you say man. Provide a replay or don't say anything, because he is a friend of mine and he DOES NOT CHEAT. He is also a pretty nice guy and gives a lot of great, free advice/coaching.

Just because two of his now ex-teammates are idiots doesn't mean the whole bunch is bad.

If you accuse someone of hacking, you better have a damn convincing replay (like the ones in OP).
KR NsPMichael.805 | AM Michael.2640 | SEA Michael.523 | 엔에스피 New Star Players
BeeNu
Profile Joined June 2011
615 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 03:27:14
June 04 2012 03:24 GMT
#948
On June 04 2012 11:43 michaelhasanalias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 15:11 Silvertine wrote:
On May 29 2012 06:59 ClanWISH wrote:
On May 29 2012 06:00 LGimbaASfuts wrote:
On May 29 2012 02:23 ClanWISH wrote:
Legit Gaming has multiple map hackers...


Would you mind providing proof of these multiple map hackers? We are trying really hard to filter and check players joining our A and B team. The following players have been dealt with as soon as we found out they map hacked.


+ Show Spoiler +

LGBolero and LGlightpnwer

LGBolero is now Impa. LGlightpwner is deying that he is hacking but i have replay proof for whoever wants to see it.


Uhhh....chobi, Intel ....

LGIntel does play very suspiciously. I didn't save the replays and they're not in my folder because they were from a while ago but he was blatantly reacting to my movements on the map without vision. I accidentally sent my lings towards his third and he started moving there. My lings turn around halfway there and head towards his natural, he reacts instantly moving back. He was also moving marines towards the ledge the second that my overlord moved in. He was doing things like that nonstop every game. Not to mention his game sense/counters were dead on without scouting while his micro/decision making were awful. And I've heard from a lot of people on ladder that he hacks.


No one else responded to this, but I just want to say you need to watch what you say man. Provide a replay or don't say anything, because he is a friend of mine and he DOES NOT CHEAT. He is also a pretty nice guy and gives a lot of great, free advice/coaching.

Just because two of his now ex-teammates are idiots doesn't mean the whole bunch is bad.

If you accuse someone of hacking, you better have a damn convincing replay (like the ones in OP).


Just curious but who in LG was a hacker except for LGLightpwnr aka LGBolero? I was under the impression he was the only one.

but also yes, be careful about who you accuse of hacking...I've played a few people who played very "suspiciously" but it's often hard to tell if they just played really lucky or not unless they do very blatant things in which case you had better bring out a replay for the community to view.
knOxStarcraft
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada422 Posts
June 04 2012 05:05 GMT
#949
This guy just hit masters I believe and is a pretty obvious map hacker. No attempt was made to hide the fact he is a map hacker. Here's the replay http://drop.sc/191252

The reason I went 14 gas 14 pool is because he was telling me to leave, so I suspected a cheese build. Also he plays random which adds to the danger. I show this terribly played game by me to the community in an attempt to expose and hopefully stop a map hacker so please don't insult my play - I know it was bad.

is there really nothing tl can do about the obvious hackers? What about everyone reporting? Does that really not work?
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
June 04 2012 07:13 GMT
#950
On June 04 2012 14:05 knOxStarcraft wrote:
This guy just hit masters I believe and is a pretty obvious map hacker. No attempt was made to hide the fact he is a map hacker. Here's the replay http://drop.sc/191252

The reason I went 14 gas 14 pool is because he was telling me to leave, so I suspected a cheese build. Also he plays random which adds to the danger. I show this terribly played game by me to the community in an attempt to expose and hopefully stop a map hacker so please don't insult my play - I know it was bad.

is there really nothing tl can do about the obvious hackers? What about everyone reporting? Does that really not work?


Lol this guy is masters? But yea it's quite obvious he hacks, even stares at your base all the time. Funny part about it is that he scrolls over instead of just clicking on the minimap to go to a location like you'd think most people would.
VPFaith
Profile Joined April 2011
United States261 Posts
June 04 2012 08:05 GMT
#951
That Lucifer guy does map hack.
Never Give Up
Chicken Chaser
Profile Joined July 2010
United States533 Posts
June 04 2012 08:08 GMT
#952
On June 04 2012 17:05 VPFaith wrote:
That Lucifer guy does map hack.


That's disappointing.. I see him in 1v1 obs map all the time. If he map hacks on THAT... that's just really sad.
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
June 04 2012 08:25 GMT
#953
On June 04 2012 17:08 Chicken Chaser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2012 17:05 VPFaith wrote:
That Lucifer guy does map hack.


That's disappointing.. I see him in 1v1 obs map all the time. If he map hacks on THAT... that's just really sad.

pathetic people do pathetic things. i think maphacking on a 1v1 obs map would be even worse than maphacking on ladder. at least on ladder you're earning some imaginary points. hacking on 1v1 obs just ruins peoples fun.
Maruprime.
Agh
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1073 Posts
June 04 2012 08:33 GMT
#954
getting pretty bad. infesting KR now. played 3 separate ones in under 20 games -_-, confirmed through replays.
I may appear to be an emotionless sarcastic pos, but just like an onion when you pull off more and more layers you find the exact same thing everytime and you start crying
Chicken Chaser
Profile Joined July 2010
United States533 Posts
June 04 2012 09:03 GMT
#955
Do we know if Blizzard has done any action to ban these hackers? Wasn't there a mass ban a year ago?
NsPGom
Profile Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1 Post
June 04 2012 09:53 GMT
#956
http://drop.sc/191292 Lucifer is maphack he no search
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Chicken Chaser
Profile Joined July 2010
United States533 Posts
June 04 2012 10:07 GMT
#957
On June 04 2012 18:53 NsPGom wrote:
http://drop.sc/191292 Lucifer is maphack he no search


Just watched the replay:

in-game 4:24 - he flashes over to where the Zealot is rallied (he never scouted Protoss base)

10:52 - sends army to take out proxy pylon hidden at his 3rd (attack command exactly where pylon is, whereas people generally do a attack waypoint around the base)

14:53 - moves camera to see stalkers getting ready to blink into his base

18:00 - 18:10 - moves camera from center of map to that area in front of the protoss's 3 bases, no commands are issued (i.e. he's looking at the army comp)

JustAPro
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany8 Posts
June 04 2012 11:09 GMT
#958
Replay: http://drop.sc/191301
Go in his view.


1:37: My probe just arrived and he watched there DIRECTLY. He didnt saw the probe yet and he's sending 3 probes to mine Whithout any reason..


4:44: He didnt saw the Pylon in the fog. He's watching there and sending a Zealot for NO REASON. I remember: He didnt saw THE PROBE there and didnt saw THE PYLON yet!


6:00: The pylon was kicked. One Zealot is moving to my base, the other one goes to the highground?! He didnt saw the Pylon and the Probe on the Lowgound yet. And wups, there's a Pylon! What a wonder!


6:55: WHY is he walling off with Pylons ? He didnt saw my probe coming - No Reason; but ahhh, 7:02 there's my Probe. What a wonder²!


7:21: Why did the cancel one pylon ? He didnt saw the pylon on his natural yet, but what a wonder³ he'smoving with all 3 zealots to my probe and pylon..


9:05: Watch him. He's doing nothin'. Camera-Lock activated? He's doing 12 sec. NOTHIN' really NOTHIN' !



okay, thats it..

what do you think about..?
frontline-
Profile Joined March 2012
Bulgaria281 Posts
June 04 2012 11:11 GMT
#959
Either most of these hackers are really retarded or they just don't care about being caught.
Chicken Chaser
Profile Joined July 2010
United States533 Posts
June 04 2012 11:24 GMT
#960
On June 04 2012 20:09 JustAPro wrote:
Replay: http://drop.sc/191301
Go in his view.


1:37: My probe just arrived and he watched there DIRECTLY. He didnt saw the probe yet and he's sending 3 probes to mine Whithout any reason..


4:44: He didnt saw the Pylon in the fog. He's watching there and sending a Zealot for NO REASON. I remember: He didnt saw THE PROBE there and didnt saw THE PYLON yet!


6:00: The pylon was kicked. One Zealot is moving to my base, the other one goes to the highground?! He didnt saw the Pylon and the Probe on the Lowgound yet. And wups, there's a Pylon! What a wonder!


6:55: WHY is he walling off with Pylons ? He didnt saw my probe coming - No Reason; but ahhh, 7:02 there's my Probe. What a wonder²!


7:21: Why did the cancel one pylon ? He didnt saw the pylon on his natural yet, but what a wonder³ he'smoving with all 3 zealots to my probe and pylon..


9:05: Watch him. He's doing nothin'. Camera-Lock activated? He's doing 12 sec. NOTHIN' really NOTHIN' !



okay, thats it..

what do you think about..?


LOL that was the most obvious map hacker in the world. He even admits it. Even the last pylon you place in the fog he reacts immediately to it. Clicks the exact spot too. Ahhhh what has the world come to...
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