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d00gwad
Australia1 Post
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figq
12519 Posts
Note that not every BW influence is good for your SC2 understanding; some of it is blinding you from what SC2 actually is. On September 10 2010 07:00 Vz0 wrote: I heard those comments, and I think he said both times that Artosis has a strong late game - so either you misheard first time, or possibly he misworded it, but I'm sure that's what he meant.He often contradicts himself. Facepalmed when he kept saying how great artosis was, how smart he was, and how he is not as good in long term games. Then before the game starts he says the long term macro game wll favour artosis... sigh.. p.s. About Husky and HD, + Show Spoiler + I must admit I can't wait for HDH2, because months later, with so many different casters and great tourneys I've seen, the casting of HDH1 still remains the top in overall qualities. It will be a breath of fresh air to have those two commentating exciting games together again. The mistakes I've heard people criticizing them about, well, we've now seen T&A repeat those mistakes even more. Eg: missing drops, focusing on map objects, shouting ridiculous stuff, incorrect/failed analysis etc. To clarify, I'm not even a fan of Husky's or HD's youtube channels, and usually their casting is off for me, when they do it individually or with another co-caster -- but they make a perfect tandem. | ||
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_Darwin_
United States2374 Posts
On September 10 2010 07:58 d00gwad wrote: I must say I enjoy husky's casts very much (better control and knowledge imo) - but as far as adding a little comedy to the cast, tasteless has most casters beat hands down. Husky has more knowledge than tasteless? Wut? | ||
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Hrrrrm
United States2081 Posts
Part of peoples displeasure is from what seems like the obvious lack of preparation by Tasteless. The hype and huge expectations did not materialize in the cast. It truly did seem like Tasteless had never tried to Obs or cast a single game in SC2 on that first night. I love Tasteless and his style but I don't know if it was because he felt he was assured the job that he didn't bother to prepare. This is on the job training at it's finest. I think the majority of the people complaining or offering criticism in this thread are genuine. They all want Tasteless and Artosis to succeed and just feel let down that they just seem to have not taken this opportunity seriously from the get go. | ||
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R0YAL
United States1768 Posts
On September 10 2010 08:03 _Darwin_ wrote: Husky has more knowledge than tasteless? Wut? Anyone who thinks Husky > Tasteless in terms of knowledge about the game is mistaken on a very large scale. | ||
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vrok
Sweden2541 Posts
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MrBitter
United States2940 Posts
On September 10 2010 08:03 _Darwin_ wrote: Husky has more knowledge than tasteless? Wut? In terms of SC2 knowledge, I would put Husky on par with Tasteless. Stasis was a BW spell, Tasteless. And the mic comes out the left side. ; ) | ||
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Rokk
United States425 Posts
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_Darwin_
United States2374 Posts
On September 10 2010 08:07 MrBitter wrote: In terms of SC2 knowledge, I would put Husky on par with Tasteless. Stasis was a BW spell, Tasteless. And the mic comes out the left side. ; ) Because he misspoke and called forcefield "stasis," he is on par with husky? Tasteless has been playing sc2 longer and more competitively than husky. He also is surrounded by great players. Husky barfs a lot. | ||
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R0YAL
United States1768 Posts
On September 10 2010 08:07 MrBitter wrote: In terms of SC2 knowledge, I would put Husky on par with Tasteless. Stasis was a BW spell, Tasteless. And the mic comes out the left side. ; ) Theres no way you seriously believe that based on a misspeak of calling FF by Stasis... What does that in any way whatsoever have anything to do with knowledge about the game? | ||
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Aylear
Norway3988 Posts
Tasteless keeps telling us he'll get better and learn the UI hotkeys soon, when the point is he should have learned them by heart before ever showing his face on TV. And he needs to stop saying "um." | ||
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Sqq
Norway2023 Posts
I do agree tho that a bit of background check into the players playing wouldn't go amiss | ||
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Longshank
1648 Posts
On September 10 2010 08:07 MrBitter wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On September 10 2010 08:03 _Darwin_ wrote: Husky has more knowledge than tasteless? Wut? In terms of SC2 knowledge, I would put Husky on par with Tasteless. Stasis was a BW spell, Tasteless. And the mic comes out the left side. ; ) Artosis keeps saying dragoons about stalkers. I guess he's behind Husky aswell in knowledge. | ||
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The_DjiN
Germany86 Posts
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Longshank
1648 Posts
On September 10 2010 08:14 Sqq wrote: I must be the only one who find the small stories about players, the humor and general casting very entertaining. I feel they make a show off it, good casting, good jokes, and overall very entertaining! On the contrary, I think the vast majority agrees with you, it's just that it could have been even better. It's still really really good though overall! | ||
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Wargizmo
Australia1237 Posts
On September 10 2010 07:01 SuperGnu wrote: + Show Spoiler + On September 10 2010 06:56 Nihilnovi wrote: I actually turn the sound off because the quality of information and the manner in which it is relayed from both artosis and tasteless is extremely lackluster and just annoyed me. I can't see either having any future in casting. The comments are usually really bad, they both talk at the same time constantly, too much of what they say is not related to the game itself but rather bad insider jokes between them which just made me go "wtf?" The camera is horrible, especially when they zoom. The quality of the stream is horrible enough without zooming in on pixels as well as it's really bad on the eyes and confusing. The constant jumping around the map is not very viewer friendly either, and MANY MANY times they jump off to some random spot while I'm watching the minimap seeing two armies going at it while they go something like; "Isn't that right about that one thing that one time at that one place with you and/or me and X random player" "Sure is dude, sure is" "Haha, yeah, it is" "Haha yeah" Overall, can't compare them to day9, hd and husky at mlg and iem. The sheer difference in quality of what's being said is just astounding. I don't know how I can be specific, it would be like telling someone directions to a building that we're both standing in front of. You are so gona get ripped a new one by the TL community now. saying The supposed gods of casting (yea i know lol) dont have a future in casting AND comparing them to Husky and HD in the same post is just asking for it  People in this community love to hate on HD and Husky because it's the popular thing to do. To be honest listening to Tasteless I don't get the impression that he knows much more about the game than either HD or Husky. Don't get me wrong, I like all three casters but people who weren't popular BW players/casters have to work a lot harder to get approval on TL. | ||
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SuperGnu
Sweden240 Posts
On September 10 2010 07:57 Vei wrote: There are like 6-8 types of ADD, http://www.youtube.com /watch?v=zVfcu1j_A7E (broke link to avoid img) if you're interested. I don't want to derail too much but I'll just say ADD people tend to enjoy/do much better at things that require their full attention (high APM games like rts, driving, etc). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADHD_predominantly_inattentive "ADHD-PI is different from the other subtypes of ADHD in that it is characterized primarily by inattention, easy distractibility, disorganization, procrastination, forgetfulness, and lethargy (fatigue), but with less or none of the symptoms of hyperactivity or impulsiveness typical of the other ADHD subtypes." But yes, you are right, this thread is not about ADD/ADHD. | ||
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mel_ee
2448 Posts
Yesterday when Torch casted it felt really refreshing. For Torch's first time to cast, he did an excellent job IMO. I felt torch was spot on with adding game depth and giving insight to the strategy. He paid much attention to what was being built simply with the usage of in game commands. This allowed tasteless to have something to chat with and created great casts. Most of the things have been said in this thread and I agree with them spot on. So I would like to add things that have not been said. Tasteless and Artosis are a great team but always cut each other off sometimes, the things they focus on sometimes are completely irrelevant from what each other says. I love the jokes and inside things as It allows viewers to connect to them, but eventually it will create a mistiming on important game decisions. Hopefully they can balance the humor and insight nicer in the future. I feel if their mindset was "we're casting to people all over the world" they would improve greatly. | ||
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hubfub
Australia352 Posts
otherwise great job! | ||
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R0YAL
United States1768 Posts
On September 10 2010 08:21 Wargizmo wrote: People in this community love to hate on HD and Husky because it's the popular thing to do. To be honest listening to Tasteless I don't get the impression that he knows much more about the game than either HD or Husky. Don't get me wrong, I like all three casters but people who weren't popular BW players/casters have to work a lot harder to get approval on TL. If you think thats the reason people dont like HD and Husky you are very wrong. People don't like them because they are bad.. Its that simple! People who can't see the bad however love them! These are the same people who are going 4 gate all-in every game in every mu or 1 base Terran the entire game. They are also same people who can't think more than 2 seconds into the future of the game that they are playing. Also in this case "bad = lack of knowledge." To be fair HD and Husky are pretty decent casters and have done a good deal for the community. They are better casters than I would be so I have no room to be pessimistic on that part but when I hear them say things that are far from true thats when I feel no remorse when saying that they have a lack of knowledge about the game. | ||
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