• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:08
CEST 02:08
KST 09:08
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 239ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion6BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion6Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles0MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon445.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes40
StarCraft 2
General
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 What is your PC setup in 2026 for SCBW/SC2 ? Most successful SC2 players of Q2 2026 MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon Is the larve respawn broken?
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event GSL CK #5 Race War HomeStory Cup 29 Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family
Brood War
General
Pros Debate: Zerg Unfairly Nerfed? (ASL S22 map) BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL22 General Discussion BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion FlaSh: This Will Be My Final ASL【ASL S21 Ro.16】
Tourneys
IPSL Spring 2026 Top 4! [ASL22] Wildcard Qualifier [Megathread] Daily Proleagues CSLAN 4 is Coming!
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5719 users

iloveoov talks Bisu's possible relation with sAviO - Page 3

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 15 16 17 Next All
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-10 01:38:06
October 10 2013 01:37 GMT
#41
On October 10 2013 10:23 Cele wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2013 10:16 heaveshade wrote:
the translater herself was kind of confused at that Bisu question. And now we have some more folks trying to figure out what oov really meant.
Did it cause confusion in Korea?


According to google Translator a couple of people reacted pretty upset. "Oov is just upset that Bisu is making so much money on Afreeca" was a comment i translated. But since i dont speak a word korean and just used the translator, take it with a grain of salt.

I'm impressed you even managed to come up with coherent sentence using the machine translator
But yeah, at best iloveoov seem to be displaying spectacular ignorance of KeSPA scene. I concur with opinion that it would be unwise for anyone to associate themselves with Savior further, but he really spoke more extreme than he should.

As for myself, I also momentarily felt disappointment when I saw Bisu had streamed his matches vs Savior, but immediately saw that it was only commentary about his past matches and not an actual game. Don't see any problem with Bisu relieving about how he destroyed the biggest scum on Brood War scene on his past.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
cabarkapa
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1013 Posts
October 10 2013 01:38 GMT
#42
On October 10 2013 10:32 iamho wrote:
Lost respect for Bisu.

He didn't actually play Savior.
Jaehoon - Master strategist
SheaR619
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2399 Posts
October 10 2013 01:38 GMT
#43
I think it mainly because there is not alot of top tier player to play on Afreeca so he get kind of bored.
I may not be the best, but i will be some day...
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-10 01:43:39
October 10 2013 01:43 GMT
#44
I personally think Savior is a disgusting human being for what he did. Maybe it's because I'm a general sports fan, but I find semi-collapsing an entire sport league for personal gain is literally unforgivable. But Bisu should be able to do whatever he wants. However, Bisu should also be aware of the any risk he takes on from playing against Savior. As long as he's fine with that, it's his choice.

IMO, it's a stupid decision and worthless PR risk on the part of Bisu though.
Meh
Carefree
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1571 Posts
October 10 2013 01:50 GMT
#45
Wait wait. To clear things up:

Did Bisu play vs. Savior or not?
DebOnAire - 「 Bisu[Shield] 」
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
October 10 2013 01:50 GMT
#46
On October 10 2013 10:50 Carefree wrote:
Wait wait. To clear things up:

Did Bisu play vs. Savior or not?


No, if you actually read the OP, you know it's a NO.
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
October 10 2013 01:53 GMT
#47
@Carefree
On October 09 2013 08:30 BisuDagger wrote:
4. 10. MISC (P)Bisu watching his 2007 MSL Finals vs (Z)sAviOr on (Wiki)Blitz
4. 10. MISC (P)Bisu watching his EVER2007 OSL game vs (Z)sAviOr on (Wiki)Katrina

Bisu's only association with Savior on his stream so far.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-10 01:56:24
October 10 2013 01:54 GMT
#48
If you don't hate someone I hate, you're my enemy too?

>_>#

also why does he hate afreeca streaming? o0;; seems more like streaming as a whole, helped esports imo...
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
October 10 2013 02:04 GMT
#49
what if 2006-2007 MBCGame StarCraft League Season 1 where savior was a massive favorite / fan favorite and bisu clean sweeped him

..was the beginning
why so 진지해?
Carefree
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1571 Posts
October 10 2013 02:05 GMT
#50
On October 10 2013 10:50 larse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2013 10:50 Carefree wrote:
Wait wait. To clear things up:

Did Bisu play vs. Savior or not?


No, if you actually read the OP, you know it's a NO.


Right. It only states that they will play in the future, and did not explicitly state that they did not play already. I just wanted to clear things up so that no more people will come in and look down on Bisu for "playing with Savior".
DebOnAire - 「 Bisu[Shield] 」
Carefree
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1571 Posts
October 10 2013 02:06 GMT
#51
On October 10 2013 10:53 Hesmyrr wrote:
@Carefree
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 08:30 BisuDagger wrote:
4. 10. MISC (P)Bisu watching his 2007 MSL Finals vs (Z)sAviOr on (Wiki)Blitz
4. 10. MISC (P)Bisu watching his EVER2007 OSL game vs (Z)sAviOr on (Wiki)Katrina

Bisu's only association with Savior on his stream so far.


Thanks! Looks good.
DebOnAire - 「 Bisu[Shield] 」
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
October 10 2013 02:08 GMT
#52
On October 10 2013 11:04 Rekrul wrote:
what if 2006-2007 MBCGame StarCraft League Season 1 where savior was a massive favorite / fan favorite and bisu clean sweeped him

..was the beginning


My brain is in a state of disbelief...

Anybody want to watch that series for any signs that sAviOr just gave up on the series? 0-3 against Bisu would probably be the most unlikely betting scoreline available there, and could have yielded the biggest return.
에일리 and 아이유 <3 - O Captain 박재혁 ・゚✧*:・*゚+..。✧・゚:*・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚* ゜・*:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING ・゜・:・゚✧*:・゚✧。*゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:*・゜・:・゚✧*::
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
October 10 2013 02:10 GMT
#53
It's tough to see people being able to go back to heroin when all you have are fucking nicotine patches I guess.
11 years and counting- TL #680
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-10 02:16:34
October 10 2013 02:14 GMT
#54
On October 10 2013 11:08 Ciryandor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2013 11:04 Rekrul wrote:
what if 2006-2007 MBCGame StarCraft League Season 1 where savior was a massive favorite / fan favorite and bisu clean sweeped him

..was the beginning


My brain is in a state of disbelief...

Anybody want to watch that series for any signs that sAviOr just gave up on the series? 0-3 against Bisu would probably be the most unlikely betting scoreline available there, and could have yielded the biggest return.

It's one of those topics that keep getting brought up since match fixing scandal broke out, and in all cases people ruled that the finals had not been deliberately lost.

Even Koreans don't believe the finals was rigged, and they are like the cesspool of outrageous conspiracies.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19368 Posts
October 10 2013 02:16 GMT
#55
On October 10 2013 11:04 Rekrul wrote:
what if 2006-2007 MBCGame StarCraft League Season 1 where savior was a massive favorite / fan favorite and bisu clean sweeped him

..was the beginning

I've often thought about that. But then again, Bisu murdered everyone after that. So it's no fluke. Just a scary thought we must dispell.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
October 10 2013 02:19 GMT
#56
On October 10 2013 11:16 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2013 11:04 Rekrul wrote:
what if 2006-2007 MBCGame StarCraft League Season 1 where savior was a massive favorite / fan favorite and bisu clean sweeped him

..was the beginning

I've often thought about that. But then again, Bisu murdered everyone after that. So it's no fluke. Just a scary thought we must dispell.

a.k.a. PURGE REKRUL THE BS CHURCH INFIDEL
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
October 10 2013 02:19 GMT
#57
Yeah, reading the Korean it seems that Oov really is condemning the afreeca streaming of all the retired BW pros and not just specifically Bisu planning to play Savior. So unless Oov/the interviewer really fucked up the wording I'm just a bit exasperated that Oov would say such a thing.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
October 10 2013 02:23 GMT
#58
@ Koreasilver: y'know what now I'm kind of glad that Oov wasn't around when I first got into the BW scene. That guy sounds like a scumbag.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
Leeoku
Profile Joined May 2010
1617 Posts
October 10 2013 02:27 GMT
#59
Did not expect the hate for bw streaming
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3302 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-10 02:28:59
October 10 2013 02:27 GMT
#60
Considering most BW players do not like SC2, they probably don't care about hurting e-sports (i.e. SC2).

inb4 sAviOr is the one who fully revives the BW scene. lol
T P Z sagi
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 15 16 17 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
00:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #20
CranKy Ducklings20
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SpeCial 243
Ketroc 48
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 3691
Rain 2537
NaDa 13
IntoTheRainbow 9
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm122
Counter-Strike
summit1g12716
minikerr29
Other Games
tarik_tv4605
Liquid`RaSZi1537
Maynarde101
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 79
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP20
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 39
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22026
Other Games
• imaqtpie1645
Upcoming Events
GSL
10h 52m
Monday Night Weeklies
15h 52m
Replay Cast
23h 52m
WardiTV Weekly
1d 10h
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
5 days
Clem vs Lambo
Scarlett vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Classic vs Trap
herO vs SHIN
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

YSL S3
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W3
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 1
Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.