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On October 10 2013 09:10 sh4w wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 09:06 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 10 2013 09:06 sh4w wrote:
What stupid stupid comments.
Retired players shouldn't stream on afreeca? Why? Because people would rather watch them play Broodwar than SC2? Is he mad because they make more money streaming on Afreeca, playing BW than they ever did in SC2? This makes no sense to me.
It's not because Bisu is streaming... it's because Bisu is streaming and playing with savior. But I mean like Falling said...according to the translation he is saying that retired players shouldn't be streaming on Afreeca. Though the way it's worded doesn't really make sense. Hopefully someone can double check the translation.
Yeah I dunno :/
On October 10 2013 09:10 PassiveAce wrote:
I wasnt around for the savior scandal so I guess I don't know the entire story but...
It seems a little weird to call Bisu 'on the same level as savior' because hes streaming with him years after the event.
Agreed, although the savior scandal can be found here: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Match_Fixing_Scandal
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Eh, I understand the "hate" for sAviOr, but there's nothing wrong with Bisu playing with him. =\
Making too big of a deal out of it, IMHO. Sure, it will turn off some viewers and whatnot, but it really is an overreaction.
Anyway, SC2's lack of success has little to do with player dramatic storylines and personality. People need to stop blaming everything that is not the game itself. SC2 is lucky to have been graced by so many legends, even if they performed poorly.
I just want to watch some amazing games. 
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I understand where he's coming from and probably agree.
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im dissapointed ini loveoov here. He made this statement cleary, whether by his own decision or Kespa influence, by at least subtle suggesting that ex players who now play BW on Afreeca do hurt "E-Sports" and can be mentioned together with savior.
While i wouldn't want to play a friendly match with Savior, for all he did, even if i had the Chance, this is over the top and it's not even the background. It seems more than a coincidence to me, that Oov makes this statement shortly after becoming the SKT headcoach.
But we shouldnt let them insult, what Sonic and many players gave to us on afreeca.
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Bisu just wants to continue to destroying sAviOr, and I don't see a problem with that.
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On October 10 2013 09:20 ninazerg wrote:
Bisu just wants to continue to destroying sAviOr, and I don't see a problem with that.
Bonjwa downfall
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I can see where oov is coming from I guess :\ although it'd be nice if someone could get clarification on whether he's saying Bisu shouldn't be streaming, playing with saviour, or streaming him playing against savior...
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I think Oov is a ingenious man.
When he comes into power for SC2, he sees two problems that hinder the game's popularity:
1. The game design and balance
and
2. The still popularity of BW that takes away the viewers of SC2.
And now he is just tackling each of those issues with his own blood.
Now are we going to let a such man to destroy our half fought territory, our domain 2.0? Its up to you to decide.
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same level as in playing skill level? Or... No, that can't be the case. Bisu just probably on the team because he is good.
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I usually agree with what oov has to say but not this time. Calling Bisu on savior's level just by playing games against him? The fuck. Oov should remind himself that Bisu and all BW streamers are not affiliated with him, SKT or Kespa.
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He can do no such thing lmao.
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Well, if people followed SKT1 that didn't know about Afreeca streams and Bisu streaming, they do now so whatever.
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i dont care if Savior was fixing his matches or not, he will be always my favorite zerg player...
and this sentence makes no logical sense to me
I heard that Bisu is going to play with sAviOr in his stream, if it is true, then they are the same kind of person now
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On October 10 2013 09:42 iLoveKT wrote:
I usually agree with what oov has to say but not this time. Calling Bisu on savior's level just by playing games against him? The fuck. Oov should remind himself that Bisu and all BW streamers are not affiliated with him, SKT or Kespa.
I agree with Oov on the first part. Bisu shouldn't play with Savior out of respect for everyone who was involved in the BW scene (particularly ex-teammates/staff). Basically all those Savior fucked over. To play with him on stream for balloons is pretty disgusting.
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the translater herself was kind of confused at that Bisu question. And now we have some more folks trying to figure out what oov really meant.
Did it cause confusion in Korea?
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On October 10 2013 10:16 heaveshade wrote:
the translater herself was kind of confused at that Bisu question. And now we have some more folks trying to figure out what oov really meant.
Did it cause confusion in Korea?
Juki already translated from the Korean source. Wooyeon's translation stands true. Oov indeed means the entire BW streaming. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=431676#11
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On October 10 2013 10:16 heaveshade wrote:
the translater herself was kind of confused at that Bisu question. And now we have some more folks trying to figure out what oov really meant.
Did it cause confusion in Korea?
According to google Translator a couple of people reacted pretty upset. "Oov is just upset that Bisu is making so much money on Afreeca" was a comment i translated. But since i dont speak a word korean and just used the translator, take it with a grain of salt.
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personally i feel like the afreeca streamers should just avoid bet matches with savior. it's really not worth the small change.
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EPT
