Arizona digs the rock bottom deeper - Page 3

On April 27 2012 20:16 archonOOid wrote:


What shadow organizations are they talking about? I haven't heard about any hidden or highly secretive UN organizations.

On April 27 2012 20:14 teddyoojo wrote:

republican state
religious state
southern state
the really weird churches are strong there
PS: usually florida is notorious for its retardedness but lately arizona is coming up strong aswell

On April 27 2012 20:16 archonOOid wrote:


What shadow organizations are they talking about? I haven't heard about any hidden or highly secretive UN organizations.

On April 27 2012 20:01 Myles wrote:

I figured that as well, but here is the first two paragraphs of the bill.



This is hypocritical as fuck, too. Their quickness to remove anything 'big government' in their state to protect individual liberty has gone so far that the state government is now infringing on personal liberties by saying people CAN'T do something that they would do probably without any knowledge of the UN resolution.

On April 27 2012 20:17 Lann555 wrote:


What churches would that be? It's not the Mormon state right?

On April 27 2012 20:17 Lann555 wrote:


What churches would that be? It's not the Mormon state right?

On April 27 2012 20:20 Fyrewolf wrote:

Wow. So it isn't just pushback against the UN, it also would outlaw helping or giving/recieving money from the political subdivision known as "President's Council on Sustainable Development, enacted on July 19, 1993
by Executive Order 12852". Basically, Arizona is outlawing a Presidential Executive Decision in its state. The traitorous south will rise again!

On April 27 2012 19:49 Joedaddy wrote:
"Tea Party Nuts"

How do you, the OP, propose we have an objective discussion about the pros and cons of the subject matter when you stereotype every self classified Tea Party member as a "nut?"

On April 27 2012 21:04 Hsanrb wrote:


So why can decisions be made in the US solely on the premise of what the President wants. That is a dictatorship and Arizona is one of the few states actually trying to stop this damn country from turning into a dictatorship. Why should a state in my country have to put up with crap the UN spams out the nose, or that the President of my country can force any law down by refusing to sign it. This country is finished if any decision can be overturned BY ONE SINGLE MAN. Theres a reason we have 3 branches of the government, I've read the whole article and all I see is "Arizona wants to get out of agreements forced on them by one man in a resolution that didn't get ratified in congress." GO ARIZONA!

Arizona is one of the few states trying to stand up for itself when the rest of the country is being brainwashed by the system. Washington won't protect them from illegal immigration, they stand up for themselves and everyone hates their laws. You don't like their laws, you throw them out or leave the state. Why should any state have to live up to agreements by people they can't elect. UN can have all these resolutions, but they have no real power and if Arizona wants to go against them they (the UN) have no muscle to use against them. This isn't about "anti-energy efficent" or "anti-poverty" its about protecting those who care about people that don't even live there telling them what they have to do.

If this was so important, and people needed the "President's Council on Sustainable Development" so badly congress would have passed it and not have needed an Executive order by Clinton. Executive orders aren't law, its just like those teachers' notes that let you get out of things just on a bigger scale.

Lets say this passes, nothings going to change. Lightbulbs aren't going to be thrown out because you already use them, programs like unemployment and welfare aren't going to be eliminated right after it signs. Most of the political crap are just using it to score points in a damn election year. Not much is going to change, unless you actually mind your state buying less energy efficient light bulbs because they are cheaper than the energy efficent ones. Most of what these politicans are saying are going to be in Arizona political commercials, just to get you to vote for the other guy. I wish New York was more like Arizona, I'd actually be able to stand state politicians a little more.

On April 27 2012 21:04 Hsanrb wrote:



Arizona is one of the few states trying to stand up for itself when the rest of the country is being brainwashed by the system. Washington won't protect them from illegal immigration, they stand up for themselves and everyone hates their laws. You don't like their laws, you throw them out or leave the state. Why should any state have to live up to agreements by people they can't elect. UN can have all these resolutions, but they have no real power and if Arizona wants to go against them they (the UN) have no muscle to use against them. This isn't about "anti-energy efficent" or "anti-poverty" its about protecting those who care about people that don't even live there telling them what they have to do.

If this was so important, and people needed the "President's Council on Sustainable Development" so badly congress would have passed it and not have needed an Executive order by Clinton. Executive orders aren't law, its just like those teachers' notes that let you get out of things just on a bigger scale.