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NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
April 27 2012 10:38 GMT
#21
As a proud right wing batshit nut, I support sexism towards women. How many walking sandwich makers are made anywhere else? Lol, all jokes aside I feel like arizona is the testing ground for idiotic legislation, crazy buggers.
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Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
April 27 2012 10:40 GMT
#22
On April 27 2012 19:23 sharky246 wrote:
isn't the EG team house in arizona?

Yes its located in Arizona.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-27 10:43:38
April 27 2012 10:42 GMT
#23
Don't know how this is newsworthy until/unless it passes. Some state rebelling against an old 1993 urge to promote sustainability, environmental protection, and other nice-sounding purposes. Does anybody listen to the UN non-binding resolutions, anyways? This is a big who-cares passage. One state against one nonbinding list of principles (I mean, seriously, wtf did it even accomplish, anyways). It's ho hum, just as much as if the state of California passed a nonbinding resolution to encourage the propagation of sustainable energy sources and the elimination or severe reduction in pollution. Flowery words, words, words, and nothing more.

(Also, the collective Knee Jerk reaction to pretend ramifications of all this is very humorous)
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
April 27 2012 10:49 GMT
#24
"Tea Party Nuts"

How do you, the OP, propose we have an objective discussion about the pros and cons of the subject matter when you stereotype every self classified Tea Party member as a "nut?"
I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
April 27 2012 10:50 GMT
#25
best thread title ever
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
April 27 2012 10:51 GMT
#26
Why are proposals worth being news? Anyone can propose the stupidest shit imaginable, that doesn't mean it's real. IF it passes, THEN it becomes news.
screamingpalm
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1527 Posts
April 27 2012 10:51 GMT
#27
So now we've devolved to proposing legislation... out of pure spite? Really Arizona?
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Nallen
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom134 Posts
April 27 2012 10:51 GMT
#28
On April 27 2012 19:42 Danglars wrote:
Don't know how this is newsworthy until/unless it passes. Some state rebelling against an old 1993 urge to promote sustainability, environmental protection, and other nice-sounding purposes. Does anybody listen to the UN non-binding resolutions, anyways? This is a big who-cares passage. One state against one nonbinding list of principles (I mean, seriously, wtf did it even accomplish, anyways). It's ho hum, just as much as if the state of California passed a nonbinding resolution to encourage the propagation of sustainable energy sources and the elimination or severe reduction in pollution. Flowery words, words, words, and nothing more.

(Also, the collective Knee Jerk reaction to pretend ramifications of all this is very humorous)


It's not so much the practicalities of it all I'm reacting to it's the principle. The principle of what they're doing in fucking insane, don't you see that?
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
April 27 2012 10:51 GMT
#29
On April 27 2012 19:42 Danglars wrote:
Don't know how this is newsworthy until/unless it passes. Some state rebelling against an old 1993 urge to promote sustainability, environmental protection, and other nice-sounding purposes. Does anybody listen to the UN non-binding resolutions, anyways? This is a big who-cares passage. One state against one nonbinding list of principles (I mean, seriously, wtf did it even accomplish, anyways). It's ho hum, just as much as if the state of California passed a nonbinding resolution to encourage the propagation of sustainable energy sources and the elimination or severe reduction in pollution. Flowery words, words, words, and nothing more.

(Also, the collective Knee Jerk reaction to pretend ramifications of all this is very humorous)


reading comprehension is an useful skill toi have. Legislation will be binding.
Zest fanboy.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
April 27 2012 10:52 GMT
#30
On April 27 2012 19:51 seiferoth10 wrote:
Why are proposals worth being news? Anyone can propose the stupidest shit imaginable, that doesn't mean it's real. IF it passes, THEN it becomes news.


less discuss it once it's implemented and we can't do nothing about it, oh wait, we didn't do the same for SOPA/PIPA?
Zest fanboy.
HotShizz
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
France710 Posts
April 27 2012 10:57 GMT
#31
yeah... that excerpt is ridiculous. Maybe an excerpt from the law not a biased news source, because whatever the source, short of the law itself, I cannot believe anything actually says, you may not use energy efficient bulbs. Maybe it says that Arizona doesn't have to stick to U.N. regulations, but I cannot imagine it says cannot under any circumstances follow any advice or regulation given by UN just to stick it to them :s sounds like sensationalism at its best
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10439 Posts
April 27 2012 11:01 GMT
#32
Even more annoying than the Arizona legislature is how everything is overblown and exaggerated by the ignorance of the masses. Dating pregnancy at the beginning of the last period has been done for decades, it's not some nutjob thing that Arizona invented.

e.g. this is from BBC

The length of your pregnancy is dated from the first day of your last period, even though you actually conceive two weeks or so after this date


omg someone tell reddit that BBC is crazy!
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-27 11:05:58
April 27 2012 11:01 GMT
#33
On April 27 2012 19:57 HotShizz wrote:
yeah... that excerpt is ridiculous. Maybe an excerpt from the law not a biased news source, because whatever the source, short of the law itself, I cannot believe anything actually says, you may not use energy efficient bulbs. Maybe it says that Arizona doesn't have to stick to U.N. regulations, but I cannot imagine it says cannot under any circumstances follow any advice or regulation given by UN just to stick it to them :s sounds like sensationalism at its best

I figured that as well, but here is the first two paragraphs of the bill.

A. The state of Arizona and all political subdivisions of this state
shall not adopt or implement the creed, doctrine, principles or any tenet of
the United Nations Rio Declaration on Environment and Development and the
Statement of Principles for Sustainable Development adopted at the United
Nations Conference on Environment and Development held in Rio de Janeiro,
Brazil in June, 1992 or any other international law that contravenes the
United States Constitution or the Constitution of Arizona.
B. Since the United Nations has enlisted the support of numerous
independent, shadow organizations to surreptitiously implement this agenda
around the world, the state of Arizona and all political subdivisions are
prohibited from implementing programs of, expending any sum of money for,
being a member of, receiving funding from, contracting services from, or
giving financial or other forms of aid to the International Council for Local
Environmental Initiatives or any of its related or affiliated organizations
including Countdown 2010, Local Action for Biodiversity, European Center for
Nature Conservation, the International Union for Conservation of Nature, and
the President's Council on Sustainable Development, enacted on July 19, 1993
by Executive Order 12852.


This is hypocritical as fuck, too. Their quickness to remove anything 'big government' in their state to protect individual liberty has gone so far that the state government is now infringing on personal liberties by saying people CAN'T do something that they would do probably without any knowledge of the UN resolution.
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
April 27 2012 11:04 GMT
#34
arizona just went full retard
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
HotShizz
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
France710 Posts
April 27 2012 11:06 GMT
#35
On April 27 2012 20:01 Myles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 19:57 HotShizz wrote:
yeah... that excerpt is ridiculous. Maybe an excerpt from the law not a biased news source, because whatever the source, short of the law itself, I cannot believe anything actually says, you may not use energy efficient bulbs. Maybe it says that Arizona doesn't have to stick to U.N. regulations, but I cannot imagine it says cannot under any circumstances follow any advice or regulation given by UN just to stick it to them :s sounds like sensationalism at its best

I figured that as well, but here is the first two paragraphs of the bill.

Show nested quote +
A. The state of Arizona and all political subdivisions of this state
shall not adopt or implement the creed, doctrine, principles or any tenet of
the United Nations Rio Declaration on Environment and Development and the
Statement of Principles for Sustainable Development adopted at the United
Nations Conference on Environment and Development held in Rio de Janeiro,
Brazil in June, 1992 or any other international law that contravenes the
United States Constitution or the Constitution of Arizona.
B. Since the United Nations has enlisted the support of numerous
independent, shadow organizations to surreptitiously implement this agenda
around the world, the state of Arizona and all political subdivisions are
prohibited from implementing programs of, expending any sum of money for,
being a member of, receiving funding from, contracting services from, or
giving financial or other forms of aid to the International Council for Local
Environmental Initiatives or any of its related or affiliated organizations
including Countdown 2010, Local Action for Biodiversity, European Center for
Nature Conservation, the International Union for Conservation of Nature, and
the President's Council on Sustainable Development, enacted on July 19, 1993
by Executive Order 12852.


This hypocritical as fuck, too. Their quickness to remove anything 'big government' in their state to protect individual liberty has gone so far that the state government is now infringing on personal liberties by saying people CAN'T do something that they would do probably without any knowledge of the UN resolution.


lulz. That excerpt is pretty ridiculous as well. Thanks. I do wonder where they would draw the line on that. Definitely a stupidly written law.
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
April 27 2012 11:08 GMT
#36
On April 27 2012 20:06 HotShizz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 20:01 Myles wrote:
On April 27 2012 19:57 HotShizz wrote:
yeah... that excerpt is ridiculous. Maybe an excerpt from the law not a biased news source, because whatever the source, short of the law itself, I cannot believe anything actually says, you may not use energy efficient bulbs. Maybe it says that Arizona doesn't have to stick to U.N. regulations, but I cannot imagine it says cannot under any circumstances follow any advice or regulation given by UN just to stick it to them :s sounds like sensationalism at its best

I figured that as well, but here is the first two paragraphs of the bill.

A. The state of Arizona and all political subdivisions of this state
shall not adopt or implement the creed, doctrine, principles or any tenet of
the United Nations Rio Declaration on Environment and Development and the
Statement of Principles for Sustainable Development adopted at the United
Nations Conference on Environment and Development held in Rio de Janeiro,
Brazil in June, 1992 or any other international law that contravenes the
United States Constitution or the Constitution of Arizona.
B. Since the United Nations has enlisted the support of numerous
independent, shadow organizations to surreptitiously implement this agenda
around the world, the state of Arizona and all political subdivisions are
prohibited from implementing programs of, expending any sum of money for,
being a member of, receiving funding from, contracting services from, or
giving financial or other forms of aid to the International Council for Local
Environmental Initiatives or any of its related or affiliated organizations
including Countdown 2010, Local Action for Biodiversity, European Center for
Nature Conservation, the International Union for Conservation of Nature, and
the President's Council on Sustainable Development, enacted on July 19, 1993
by Executive Order 12852.


This hypocritical as fuck, too. Their quickness to remove anything 'big government' in their state to protect individual liberty has gone so far that the state government is now infringing on personal liberties by saying people CAN'T do something that they would do probably without any knowledge of the UN resolution.


lulz. That excerpt is pretty ridiculous as well. Thanks. I do wonder where they would draw the line on that. Definitely a stupidly written law.

Looking further into the law, it applies to any

For the purposes of this section, "political subdivision" means all
state, county, city, town, public local entity, public-partnership or any
other public entity."


which at least means they won't be telling private residence what to do, but still seems way overarching.
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Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
April 27 2012 11:10 GMT
#37
As a European with little knowledge of all the different states, can someone explain to me why it's always Arizona that seems to appears in these strange stories. Whenever I find myself doing some old-fashioned facepalming at the insanity of the US legal system, it seems to center around Arizona in particular.

What is it about that state? Is it a cultural thing or does the education system there just not function as intended?
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nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
April 27 2012 11:10 GMT
#38
Arizona: usa's usa!
sorry i love you.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-27 11:23:57
April 27 2012 11:14 GMT
#39
On April 27 2012 20:10 Lann555 wrote:
As a European with little knowledge of all the different states, can someone explain to me why it's always Arizona that seems to appears in these strange stories. Whenever I find myself doing some old-fashioned facepalming at the insanity of the US legal system, it seems to center around Arizona in particular.

What is it about that state? Is it a cultural thing or does the education system there just not function as intended?

republican state
religious state
southern state
PS: usually florida is notorious for its retardedness but lately arizona is coming up strong aswell
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archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
April 27 2012 11:16 GMT
#40
B. Since the United Nations has enlisted the support of numerous
independent, shadow organizations to surreptitiously implement this agenda
around the world, ...


What shadow organizations are they talking about? I haven't heard about any hidden or highly secretive UN organizations.
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