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On July 07 2012 13:58 Sinensis wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 13:49 slOosh wrote:
Try reading my filter - I explain each vote switch. I also explain the reason for my delay. Then give me your updated thoughts. You switched your lynch candidate 3 times in 4 posts, and one of those posts was an edit. My thoughts were up to date a page ago.
maybe I'm just illiterate, but hasn't slOosh's lynch candidate only changed once?
It went from drwiggl3s (some pressure vote) to you. I don't see any other change in the thread.
On July 07 2012 13:47 Sinensis wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 13:44 slOosh wrote:
Oh, and also if you could clarify your post against me that would be great. Because I'm not really sure how to answer the question "Are you just jumping on the easiest target every time?". Are you calling me scummy or ... ? It's suspicion. In my first post I said "sloosh would be wise to clarify his votes." You didn't do that adequately. You just switched your vote to me, and then your suspicion to prplhz.
players can't have multiple suspects?
If you really are town why are you nitpicking so pointlessly? You just cause needless confrontation over non-issues. In fact most of the things you've tried attacking slOosh over are completely alignment irrelevant.
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I don't even understand how you expect me to defend myself against these accusations. They're literally people listing what I did in the thread and then saying that I am scum because of it.
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I thought Dangeresque77 was scummy mainly because of the quote I highlighted but since then he did something I don't think scum would do (call marvellosity scum 'cause he seems to be the one who is getting people lynched right now) so I'm back at null on him. I think VisceraEyes is scummy and slOosh a little. I also think that NoSmurfHere is Ace.
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On July 07 2012 16:45 prplhz wrote:
I don't even understand how you expect me to defend myself against these accusations. They're literally people listing what I did in the thread and then saying that I am scum because of it.
But in your previous game someone posted "SCUM" and that was kind of similar to what you did this game, even though someone does that in every game, AND that person turned out to be mafia.
You saw the "facts" post. I don't need to reread it for you.
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I'm sensing that you're being ironic and that's funny because you don't understand the situation.
Last game VisceraEyes called marvellosity scum. VisceraEyes was town. Implying that I am blatantly trying to replicate last game for whatever purpose is ludicrous.
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prplhz what part of your posting did you want marvellosity to respond to SO DESPERATELY that the fact that he ignored it left you no other alternative than to conclude that he MUST be part of the evil mafia destined to be your downfall?
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I never claimed that I marvellosity was scum because he ignored me. I don't understand how you can get my filter wrong when it consists of 5 one liners.
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Yeah okay, you're right - you never said why you called marv scum. However you did accuse marv of ignoring you while you were calling him scum with no reason, so what were you expecting marv to respond to? You completely ignored my question so you could point out one semantic error in my comprehension of your nonsense, wtf?
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Okay I don't really know how you want me to defend myself. I think that VisceraEyes is scum because I don't think he thinks that I am scum. Just now he got my 5 sentence filter wrong which doesn't really look like someone who has been looking thoroughly into the matter, or into the matter at all. He also shied away from posting until NoSmurfHere posted even though he's called me out several times in this thread.
I also don't get why he implied that NoSmurfHere is wherebugsgo.
On July 07 2012 06:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'd really like prplhz to come explain his actions before we move on...because I'm totally fine with my vote where it is if this is the median level of play we can expect from prplhz this game. I fucking called his shit in MSM and I'm not letting him escape again because he lurked his way clear of suspicion.
YOU HEAR ME PRPL YOU'RE NOT GETTING AWAY THIS TIME BRO
"before we move on"
"you're not getting away"
Saying "before we move on" is no way to apply pressure which he is obviously making it seem like he's trying to do with his "you're not getting away".
"if this is the level of play we can expect from prplhz this game"
Implying that I'm town who is playing badly (in his eyes).
I have no idea what he's trying to do with this post. I didn't even lurk in MSM, I pushed day1 lynch.
There's more of that but I didn't do notes.
slOosh
On July 07 2012 07:44 slOosh wrote:
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thoughts on prplhz
I found his initial vote on me and subsequent explanation of it (low tolerance on bs) believable from town perspective.
Now he called marv scum based on just one post (as he voted me first and the only thing that changed was 1 hr and a couple posts from BL and marv) - strange. His policy lynch on Zentor comes to mind, and perhaps he saw a strong parallel between that and marv's inital vote on MsZontar. Yet to stop him in such a way (calling him scum repeatedly rather than addressing town) isn't what I'd expect from a townie who genuinely wanted to do it.
His "not this again" doesn't make sense, because he believes marv is scum, in which case it is VE and marv going at it, and they aren't both town in his mind, yet that was what it was in Movie Mini Mafia (the game he is referring to for those who don't understand) - a slugfest between two townies.
People are definitely concerned and expressed suspicions of him yet he has not done anything to remedy this, but has been posting in a haughty / antagonistic manner. People are obviously putting visible effort into this game (beside me at the point), yet he throws a hissy fit.
Concluding thoughts:
People shouldn't be WIFOMing themselves out of a lynch. He did some scummy things. If he doesn't give adequate explanation / contributions, he should hang end of story.
I don't get how slOosh can actually think that I was sure that marvellosity was scum. He even expresses doubt at this himself but then he just ignores that. First of all it was like two pages into the game. Who the hell has a clear read then? When did anybody ever post something that wasn't gauging reactions in the first pages of a game? Second, if I was sure that he was scum then it would be because there were some really good arguments and then I would have told you guys. Instead slOosh is using this to call me scum when he should really know better.
I didn't do anything? Well that's right, I wasn't here. Yesterday was pretty crappy for me which also contributed to my thread presence. I saw that I got a PM and then I thought "cool, I know how to start this game, I'll do setup speculation" but first I voted slOosh because I thought it was funny that our filters would be identical (single vote, no explanation) but his would be scummy and mine wouldn't (his had no reason and mine has the clear reason that his didn't) and I like to try to cheer myself up when I am in a bad mood. I was kind of trying to cheer myself up. Then I went to setup page and saw that this was a semi-open setup and I had thought it was an open setup (I thought it was Radfield's setup from Newbie Mini Mafia XX) and I don't really know why but that just put me in a crappier mood (not that I prefer open setups to semi-open setups, just that I couldn't do setup speculation like I had planned to). Then I just voted marvellosity to gauge his reaction and to argue with someone ('cause I like a good argument and I was trying to cheer myself up) but he didn't react spontaneously like I had wanted him to (like the "lol, ok" in MSM). Then marvellosity and VisceraEyes had a couple of thoughtful posts in no way similar to what they did in MSM and I posted "not this again........" as a joke, again, to cheer myself up. Then people posted full cases on me but I didn't really feel like responding to any of it (and I don't think that I really can) because I was in a bad mood and then I just pointed out that Dangeresque77 was being way more scummy than I was and I left the thread.
I'm going to be back in a few hours but I'm not going to be around for deadline.
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I just can't get my head around wanting to possibly provoke the same reaction from me as Movie after what happened last time.
Why would you do that, knowing what happened there??
Also I don't really understand the posting since I went to bed at all. Will reread for further clarity :/
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Alright, things I get from the last few pages: sinensis/zephirdd spat. Not getting the Zephirdd is scum thing. This game has been quite bitty and I don't mind him telling people what to do too much.
Sinensis has been misrepresenting slOosh's votes. Not sure if this is just reading failure. For someone who made a show of not being frivolous and one-linerish, you'd think they'd at least get their facts right.
Dangeresque is lol
NSH is bugs
prplhz - why do you find VE scummy then?
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EBWOP: you answered that, sorry prplhz.
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It's just the fact we come straight after Movie. It's 2 fold, one is the prodding me, and two is the behaving scummily. Both of these things caused massive shit-storms in Movie.
prplhz - is VE your favoured lynch then?
p.s. sorry for spamming
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I have a really hard time taking the "he was trying to replicate the shoutfest from MSM" argument seriously.
Yes, VisceraEyes is my preferred lynch, although just about any lynch that isn't me should be preferred.
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I would appreciate if people got a little more talkative.
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Perhaps if you fleshed out your case on your preferred lynch, that might help? It feels like you almost cba ("there's more but i didn't take notes")
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Yea it's pretty hard to summon the energy for anything when five of the biggest town voices in this game are on your back for a couple of one liners. I can't really explain them away with huge town motivation 'cause there weren't much, I was in a bad mood so I did a trolly early game to cheer myself up and then this happened. I can't see another feasible lynch today other than Dangeresque77 and I don' really see him as scum and day1 is often a crap shoot so why not shoot me for being crap.
VisceraEyes himself starts the game out with a dumb vote just to get things started. Dumb shit happens in the first few pages all the time. He should really know this because he did it himself but he doesn't. He also seems the the most "bandwagonny" of the people on me, he doesn't contribute with new arguments and it doesn't seem like he understands the case on me at all even though he talks a lot. He called out for me several times and then when I appear he doesn't actually have anything for me. That seems like he is pretty happy with the lynch and he just wants to look good when it's over. Stuff like:
On July 07 2012 08:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
Don't appeal to authority marvel, come on.
Zentor, Sinensis has all of ONE post guy...by virtue of post-count ALONE, prplhz has had more of a chance to prove his towniness than Sinensis has.
So because I have five posts of one line, I should be a lot more townie than a guy with one post of four lines? What is this argument?
I still don't get why he says that NoSmurfHere is wherebugsgo when he saw the *yawn* thing too and that looks really Aceish. On the other hand it seems like Ace is one of wherebugsgo's favorite players on this forum and maybe he unconsciously adopted some of his mannerisms.
I would really rather wait until everybody's been around and talked this through but I'm not sure how much I'm going to be around tonight. I think this lynch is going to be pretty bad 'cause it was a bandwagon off of 5 lines and there's not a lot to get from it when I flip so I'm just going to go ahead and claim cop. Not that it matters for the lynch or anything but maybe some of you want to take it into your considerations.
Sorry for sucking so much. Some days are better than others and sometimes you have a shitty day1 and then you get lynched. I haven't been lynched on day1 since forever (actually, I don't think I've ever been lynched on day1, a night1 shot is the best I can do I think) because people know that I always put in some effort. I have like 100 games and no activity modkills.
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I'm going to say it one more time, and one more time only.
NSH is bugs.
And you're claiming cop. Ugh. You think the bandwagon on you is that strong already? :x I really need everyone else to talk about this now. I'm pretty bad with blue claims :/
for now
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