EPTWhy in the hell would you play so blatantly disruptive as a COP? I'm not sure if I even believe this.
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NoSmurfHere
New Zealand613 Posts
Why in the hell would you play so blatantly disruptive as a COP? I'm not sure if I even believe this. | ||
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slOosh
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NoSmurfHere
New Zealand613 Posts
I actually like Bluelightz's choice of lynch, drwiggl3s. I still wouldn't mind killing prplhz either, but maybe that's because I expect better from him given his experience. He's more experienced than me and yet he still pulls this type of play...really dude? Literally the only reason half the players unvoted him is the cop claim. If there's a roleblocker in this game it renders the role useless. Anyone operating from a town perspective would know this and hesitate to claim. Not like the votes were final or this was particularly late into the day, correct? We still have quite some time left? Gonna reread and I'll be back later. | ||
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slOosh
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slOosh
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
I don't get why wherebugsgo thinks my behavior is off because I am cop. He's one of the main proponents of "play blue as green" and how you're only blue while you send in your actions. I play like this, last time I was blue was in Pick Your Poison (with wherebugsgo) and no one guessed it. You can't just dismiss my case with "he's just saiyng that someone isn't playing as well as they should be and that's null" because you can dismiss any case with that really and it's not true. I don't really know about Sinensis. I just read his filter and I remember that I actually played a game with him some time ago, Normal Mini Mafia I, where he played really weird too. He insisted on tunneling me even though I was confirmed town (I was vigilante who had shot with no counterclaim) and he didn't know that mafia could communicate privately even though he had been mafia himself in an earlier game. I mislynched him on day2 in that game. I still want to lynch VisceraEyes. His unvote of me doesn't feel right, it's because of better posting even though he calls it asinine. He is also encouraging me to write a case on him, why the hell would any townie do that? It's like he's trying blatantly not to be timid while it actually makes no sense for town to encourage other people to write cases on them. I like slOosh a better though after seeing rereading his filter. ##Vote VisceraEyes Going to be around for a little while longer. Will change to Sinensis to prevent a no-lynch or a prplhz-lynch but I'm feeling better about this. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On July 08 2012 06:18 prplhz wrote: I'm really angry with how you made me claim cop and then you just unvote out of nowhere. With how quickly the bandwagon stopped I bet that there were scum on it though and I think that VisceraEyes is scum. I don't get why wherebugsgo thinks my behavior is off because I am cop. He's one of the main proponents of "play blue as green" and how you're only blue while you send in your actions. I play like this, last time I was blue was in Pick Your Poison (with wherebugsgo) and no one guessed it. Don't you dare. You completely brought this upon yourself and bugs is totally correct. If you are the cop then your play at the beginning of the day was absolutely atrocious, and COMPLETELY unbefitting of your role. You're perfectly capable of solid townie play, but instead you throw crap at the thread when you're in possession of such a power role? What the fuck, seriously? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
what do you think makes wiggles' play scummy rather than just bad townie? | ||
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NoSmurfHere
New Zealand613 Posts
Certainly we shouldn't be relying on roles but it would be naïve to think that the setup isn't balanced with blues in mind. Also I don't say "play blue as green" (that makes no sense whatsoever) but regardless of what type of town you are you should be playing constructively and you should work to establish yourself as town. You did nothing constructive or helpful in your first five posts and that's why half the players in the game were fine with killing you. Now you're just crying because you want attention to your case. Too bad your credibility is shot now; even if you are town I'm going to be far less trustworthy of you given how antitown your play has been so far. | ||
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NoSmurfHere
New Zealand613 Posts
On July 08 2012 06:27 marvellosity wrote: NSH in particular, but also anyone - what do you think makes wiggles' play scummy rather than just bad townie? Mostly the diplomatic way in which he approaches everything. I can't think of an actual stance nor opinion that he took. I also particularly just liked all the points Bluelightz made: those are the things I noticed myself. Also I'm completely fine with killing Zontar as she's done nothing and will probably continue to do nothing given how little attention she's receiving. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
1) I have a terrible record with assessing/lynching blue claims, 2) I have a tendency to grossly overestimate what I expect from players I have respect for (and you are one, prplhz). An example of these 2 things working together is Bang Bang, where I lynched (shot) gonzaw the claimed cop. I thought the claim was iffy, but most of all I expected MORE from his play previously (there had been holes). But I was wrong and gonzaw had simply played more suboptimally than I expected. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
I'm going to re-read wiggles, as you know I argued with him greatly for saying fuck all. At the time I couldn't make up my mind if it was bad townie or scum motivations. Anyway, NSH - gonna put your vote where your mouth is re: wiggles? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
##Vote: prplhz | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
No, I don't believe his claim. A cop wouldn't act like he acted at the beginning of the game, I can't see it. That's not suboptimal, that's antiproductive. All it's going to do is get votes on you forcing you to claim...and then he blames me for it. LOL | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Second post there: On June 30 2012 18:06 drwiggl3s wrote: ##Vote BroodKingEXE Good god. This was by my calculations about 10 hours into that game. What has he done here? All he's talked about is how cases are weak, we have to wait for people to talk, blablablablabla. But there, as townie, he's pretty happy to launch into an early vote to let his feelings be known. THE TWO DO NOT MATCH. ##Unvote ##Vote: drwiggl3s | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On July 01 2012 05:13 drwiggl3s wrote: Ok since some people asked, here's what I'm thinking. I agree that BKEXE's initial posts were a tad scummy. But what gave it away to me was that after casualman voted for him, both Mattchew and BKEXE immediately returned the favour and voted for casualman to be lynched. Both without any explanation other than saying "Wtf is this". And then later, both went MIA for quite a while instead of explaining their votes or trying to defend BKEXE. You may ask why would casualman throw his vote at BKEXE so early. It could be he is either just noob, or it could be he read BKEXE as scum (like many people are now) but just before a lot of people had the chance to. As for other players: I find many people are soft defending BKEXE and in their posts trying to put suspicion onto others (with little reason). I see these as scummy moves. Just look at the tone. He calls this, that, and the other scummy. That's what he's concentrating on. Compare to this game, how many times he says he feels things AREN'T scummy, or people are reading too much into things, or he's not happy with this lynch. Totally different tone. His only 'case' in the thread was on slOosh and it didn't even have a vote accompanying it. The two styles between the games are not of the same alignment. | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
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NoSmurfHere
New Zealand613 Posts
##unvote ##vote drwiggl3s | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
Day 1 Vote Count drwiggl3s (3) Bluelightz marvellosity NoSmurfHere slOosh (0) MsZantor (0) marvellosity (0) Bluelightz (0) prplhz (1) VisceraEyes Sinensis (4) slOosh MrZentor Dangeresque77 Zephirdd Zephirdd (1) Sinensis VisceraEyes (1) prplhz The day ends in 3.5 hours at 02:00 GMT (+00:00). With 12 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch. | ||
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