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MsZontar
Profile Joined July 2012
United States6 Posts
July 08 2012 01:11 GMT
#441
Im not sure...

##Vote: Sinensis
Look beyond what you see
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 08 2012 01:12 GMT
#442
Well to be fair, explicit evidence against drwiggl3s hasn't really been presented in thread. It's more of

person 1:"hey what do you think of him?"
person 2: (after personally looking at filter etc) "yea I'd lynch him"
person 3: "me too"

Objectively, if the thread was the only thing you could access than the Sinensis case is more well built. However, outside (of thread) info in the form of people's reads on Sinensis and drwiggl3s has played a factor (the former plays weird, the latter isn't playing like his town self).

The basis of why right now its drwiggl3s over Sinensis is b/c several people are feeling iffy on the basis of Sinensis' meta and unwilling to vote him.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 08 2012 01:14 GMT
#443
On July 08 2012 10:11 MsZontar wrote:
Im not sure...

##Vote: Sinensis

How about some transparency here?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 08 2012 01:28 GMT
#444
bah ... buyer's remorse is kicking in ...

NSH can you assuage my concerns?
Why exactly is drwiggl3s the optimal lynch over Sinensis in this situation? Are they not equally good?
Do you not think that this wiggl3s wagon even more quickly than Sinensis (which I would argue was not quick at all since I've been prodding it from start of D1)?
NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 08 2012 01:34 GMT
#445
I've seen sinensis mislynched before (read MTG? I think) at least twice from what I can recall. His play is similar here and it's that offensive bad townie type vibe. He could still be scum but I find it unlikely given how in-your-face he's been. He's also at least had discernible opinions.

Contrast that to wiggl3s who has not had really any clear opinions. He's waffled on a lot of things and he's for the most part sat around and done nothing. He's got some talk in his filter but if you read between the lines he's not actually saying anything.

Contrast this with his play in LVI and you'll see what I'm talking about (players from LVI should know what I'm talking about, anyway. Marv does)

As for how fast the wagon built up, doesn't really matter given that it's a last minute voteswitch. That's how they work. Earlier wagons that build up fast are a bit more concerning because people have time to think about their opinions but they just jump on the first guy who seems controversial without thinking about it. Here in this case we've at least gone through stages of eliminating certain possibilities (e.g. prplhz)
The following statement is true. The previous statement is false.
NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 08 2012 01:35 GMT
#446
like basically if we lynch Sinensis I feel like we're lynching the guy that everyone dislikes just because we don't agree with his play. That's usually led to townies dying d1.

Who knows, maybe they're both town and we're on a wild goose chase, but I think wiggl3s is the better choice of the two. Best choice today, in fact.

If I had the balls I'd lynch prplhz but given how many bad blues have flipped recently I'm not so willing.
The following statement is true. The previous statement is false.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 08 2012 01:43 GMT
#447
If I didn't like prplhz then I'd be less inclined to vote him. As it stands, I prefer his lynch unfortunately.

##Fistpound
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
July 08 2012 02:01 GMT
#448
Final Day 1 Vote Count


drwiggl3s (7)
slOosh
Bluelightz
marvellosity
NoSmurfHere
prplhz
VisceraEyes
Dangeresque77
slOosh

slOosh (0)
prplhz

MsZantor (0)
marvellosity

marvellosity (0)
prplhz

Bluelightz (0)
VisceraEyes

prplhz (0)
VisceraEyes
marvellosity
Zephirdd
NoSmurfHere
VisceraEyes

Sinensis (3)
slOosh
MrZentor
marvellosity
VisceraEyes
Dangeresque77
Zephirdd
MsZontar

Zephirdd (1)
Sinensis

VisceraEyes (0)
prplhz

drwiggl3s to be lynched
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 02:14:35
July 08 2012 02:01 GMT
#449
Night 1

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Soundtrack


The dreamers quibbled as reality bent around them. Their fear and mistrust seeped through the rift like a pustulent, oozing wound. So it is that as the sand dial ticked down, their fears began to become their reality. Most endured, for they had a greater goal, and persevered, arguing, while one man in particular couldn't handle the stress. He found that his loquacious conversation was fruitless and his fears were hanging from the trees around him like ripe fruit, and his mind snapped, he sat, and chanted.

The lights go out and I can't be saved
Tides that I tried to swim against
Have brought me down upon my knees


The town looked at him, and one man asked "Is this... normal?" soon people left and right were chiming their oppinions about just how strange this, of all events, was. Not of the snails that crawled up the walls, or the eyes bubbling from the fountain, or the impossible fact that three suns shone down where there had been only one before. No, they fixated on the singing.

Confusion never stops
Closing walls and ticking clocks


The ticking of a massive clock filled the square where the argument was taking place, reminding them that time was running out, but still drwiggl3s sat and chanted.

And nothing else compares
You are
You are
Home, home where I wanted to go


As the crowd muttered and argued, pointing fingers, all drwiggl3s uttered in his defense and as an indictment of others was "Home, home where I wanted to go"

Home, home where I wanted to go

As a massive clock tower rose in the middle of the town square, with the clock ticking off to midnight, the liturgy remained the same.

Home, home where I wanted to go

As the clock tower struck twelve, the doors sprung open revealing a throne of twisted, coiled barbed wire, a bleeding corpse quickly evaporating off of it. The intent was clear. The people looked at each other, undecided, and ]drwiggl3s just spoke "Home, home where I wanted to go". With a frustrated yell, someone grabbed him roughly by the arm, yelling "Enough!" and the mob rose with him, shoving drwiggl3s, into the throne. As his blood seeped into the throne and he slowly evaporated as the clock tower doors closed, drwiggl3s a last agonized phrase left his weeping lips.

Home, home where I wanted to go



drwiggl3s, Johnathan Swift the Dreamer rests upon the throne of thorns.

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Welcome to Mini Mafia II: You are Johnathan Swift a Dreamer,a British author and satirist. This is your dream, and what a strange dream it is. Who are these people? Why are they here? Whats up with the giant flaming moon slowly descending towards the earth? Why are there little people scampering about? Is this some kind of subconscious metaphor? Hey, this would probably make a decent book! Anyway, focus on figuring this out, and then who knows, the idea of a nation of small people is intriguing.


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MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
July 08 2012 02:02 GMT
#450
-.-
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Dangeresque77
Profile Joined June 2012
United States65 Posts
July 08 2012 02:09 GMT
#451
Well.........
"Sounds Dangerous." "No...Sounds Dangeresque"
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 08 2012 03:08 GMT
#452
I dunno man. I dunno. I just hope someone gets a shot off on MsZontar so we don't have this problem tomorrow.
drwiggl3s
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada167 Posts
July 08 2012 03:34 GMT
#453
Fuck! Sorry guys. I was at the PNE (basicailly the fair -- here in vancouver) and wasn't able to get on this today. Shit.
Goodluck town -.-
hi
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
July 08 2012 04:03 GMT
#454
Wow I thought I was going to be thrown under the bus for sticking to my gut (as per usual), and you guys go and kill someone completely different on nothing but gut and weak meta?

Keep an eye on those that switched votes from me to wiggles in my opinion.

That's sloosh, VE, and dangeresque. I would gamble one of them is mafia.
Dangeresque77
Profile Joined June 2012
United States65 Posts
July 08 2012 04:10 GMT
#455
Hmmm NSH really pushed for the lunch on wiggles. Might want to look at him too
"Sounds Dangerous." "No...Sounds Dangeresque"
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
July 08 2012 04:14 GMT
#456
On July 08 2012 13:10 Dangeresque77 wrote:
Hmmm NSH really pushed for the lunch on wiggles. Might want to look at him too


No, I don't think so. I think if NSH wanted as easy mislynch, like you probably did, he would have just voted me... like you did.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
July 08 2012 04:19 GMT
#457
EBWOP I think if NSH wanted an easy mislynch...
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 08 2012 04:54 GMT
#458
Well if Sinensis is stubborn town, and prplhz is weirdo town, then D1 was wild goose chase, and therefore scum probably played lazy / lurkeresque style, making sure to fit in but not really needing to put in any effort. Thereby you could probably find them among the pile of players who didn't really push town a certain direction.

Would you guys agree with this assessment?
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
July 08 2012 06:12 GMT
#459
On July 08 2012 13:54 slOosh wrote:
Well if Sinensis is stubborn town, and prplhz is weirdo town, then D1 was wild goose chase, and therefore scum probably played lazy / lurkeresque style, making sure to fit in but not really needing to put in any effort. Thereby you could probably find them among the pile of players who didn't really push town a certain direction.

Would you guys agree with this assessment?

Yes, and mszontar, VE and d77 fit this.

I'm wondering if a sinesis lynch would be bad or good. But what strikes me is that ve is ALWAYS in the middle of the voting list.

i dont remember where i saw that, but a rule for scumhunting is that there is always a scum on the middle voters of a mislynch.

also for the record, my notes have wiggles as "looking worse over time, have to recheck". I was away most of today so I didnt even do that.

I'll post more close to the deadline. Also fuck yeah Anderson Silva.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 08 2012 06:43 GMT
#460
Whatever I wanted to lynch prplhz. You're crazy.

I find Sinensis' assessment fairly scummy, and I'll give bonus points to anyone who can tell me why before I finish typing it up myself.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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