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NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 07 2012 00:34 GMT
#321
I don't understand how claiming vanilla town is "shitting up discussion"

I never responded to you because your concerns honestly weren't worth responding to in the first place.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 07 2012 00:35 GMT
#322
Bedtime for me. I desperately want to hear from prplhz and Sinensis.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
July 07 2012 00:40 GMT
#323
On July 07 2012 09:34 NoSmurfHere wrote:
I don't understand how claiming vanilla town is "shitting up discussion"

I never responded to you because your concerns honestly weren't worth responding to in the first place.


First, your just making more WIFOM to throw around and discuss (which is kinda worthless cause you posted like what? 3 posts?) and please explain why, I hate baseless bullshit.
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 07 2012 00:41 GMT
#324
Day 1 Vote Count


drwiggl3s (0)
slOosh

slOosh (0)
prplhz

MsZantor (0)
marvellosity

marvellosity (1)
prplhz

Bluelightz (0)
VisceraEyes

prplhz (4)
VisceraEyes
marvellosity
Zephirdd
NoSmurfHere

Sinensis (2)
slOosh
MrZentor

The day ends in 25 hours at 02:00 GMT (+00:00). With 12 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 07 2012 00:43 GMT
#325
On July 07 2012 09:40 Bluelightz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 09:34 NoSmurfHere wrote:
I don't understand how claiming vanilla town is "shitting up discussion"

I never responded to you because your concerns honestly weren't worth responding to in the first place.


First, your just making more WIFOM to throw around and discuss (which is kinda worthless cause you posted like what? 3 posts?) and please explain why, I hate baseless bullshit.


So do you throw a pointless fit every time Kenpachi claims VT too?

Why are you trying to call me scum for something that is alignment-null?
The following statement is true. The previous statement is false.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
July 07 2012 01:12 GMT
#326
NSH=WBG

o.0
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
July 07 2012 01:29 GMT
#327
On July 07 2012 09:43 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 09:40 Bluelightz wrote:
On July 07 2012 09:34 NoSmurfHere wrote:
I don't understand how claiming vanilla town is "shitting up discussion"

I never responded to you because your concerns honestly weren't worth responding to in the first place.


First, your just making more WIFOM to throw around and discuss (which is kinda worthless cause you posted like what? 3 posts?) and please explain why, I hate baseless bullshit.


So do you throw a pointless fit every time Kenpachi claims VT too?

Why are you trying to call me scum for something that is alignment-null?


Because Kenpachi if fucking annoying.

Im not calling you scum I'm asking you to explain your actions. read up the post lol
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Dangeresque77
Profile Joined June 2012
United States65 Posts
July 07 2012 01:56 GMT
#328
hey. sorry i havnt been posting in the last five pages. im on vacation so i dont always have acces to my phone or computor

sorry for seeming wishy washy in my previous posts as some people have called me. i didnt think that i had enough information on people to really commit to calling someone mafia

also someone said that i was defending prplhz. when did i defend him?

ok down to my actual point

after i put marvel on my maybe scum list i found it interesting that he spent the next 5 pages trying to convince people that im scum. there is no reason to just ask people for my opinion so many different times unless you are hopping for someone to say something bad about me.

On July 07 2012 08:14 marvellosity wrote:
I wasn't appealing to authority, I was being condescending. But you're both right, that's not very productive.

re: your answer slOosh, yea that's cool.

As I FoSed him, what do people think of Dangeresque?



On July 07 2012 08:23 marvellosity wrote:
wiggles - dangeresque, thoughts now


On July 07 2012 08:23 marvellosity wrote:
as in, your thoughts on dangeresque.



On July 07 2012 08:30 marvellosity wrote:
Zeph - NSH.

wiggles, all he said on Sinensis is that he was 'suspicious'

how is this a 'good point' ?


saying someone is suspicious is not a 'good point', it's not a point at all because it's completely unexplained. How do you not understand this?

I've posted on Dangeresque. Do you read the thread?

throwing around suspicion at the guy who is accusing you is mafia play.


On July 07 2012 08:45 marvellosity wrote:
There's prplhz's behaviour, the cases made on him and the discussions surrounding it
there's mszontar's bizarre attack on me
there's sinensis' lurking / absence
there's slOosh's ninja vote/explanation/views on anything
there's dangeresque being weird
there's you posting a lot BUT SAYING NOTHING

there's plenty going on bro.


i love how you just accuse people like this. you call me out for saying that someone is suspicious without giving much of a reason(i agrea with you however. i did not give a point when i said it. but sadly that was not my intention. i was simply saying that i was going to keep my eyes on that guy. not that he is mafia) and then you post this. accusation dont help anyone if you dont give your reasons as to why it is scummy. "dangeresque being wierd" does not help any one

"Sounds Dangerous." "No...Sounds Dangeresque"
NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 07 2012 01:59 GMT
#329
On July 07 2012 10:29 Bluelightz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 09:43 NoSmurfHere wrote:
On July 07 2012 09:40 Bluelightz wrote:
On July 07 2012 09:34 NoSmurfHere wrote:
I don't understand how claiming vanilla town is "shitting up discussion"

I never responded to you because your concerns honestly weren't worth responding to in the first place.


First, your just making more WIFOM to throw around and discuss (which is kinda worthless cause you posted like what? 3 posts?) and please explain why, I hate baseless bullshit.


So do you throw a pointless fit every time Kenpachi claims VT too?

Why are you trying to call me scum for something that is alignment-null?


Because Kenpachi if fucking annoying.

Im not calling you scum I'm asking you to explain your actions. read up the post lol


so what was the point of saying that I was shitting up discussion? Is that what happened?

I think claiming vanilla is a good way to start a game when there's nothing else to do. Kenpachi rule might be effective, it might not be, but it's completely alignment-irrelevant.

Although to toot my own horn as scum I would never do it because it would mean I couldn't fakeclaim later. As scum I plan ahead and having the opportunity to fakeclaim something is imperative. If I claim vanilla town in my first post that's basically thrown out the window.
The following statement is true. The previous statement is false.
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
July 07 2012 02:15 GMT
#330
On July 07 2012 10:59 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 10:29 Bluelightz wrote:
On July 07 2012 09:43 NoSmurfHere wrote:
On July 07 2012 09:40 Bluelightz wrote:
On July 07 2012 09:34 NoSmurfHere wrote:
I don't understand how claiming vanilla town is "shitting up discussion"

I never responded to you because your concerns honestly weren't worth responding to in the first place.


First, your just making more WIFOM to throw around and discuss (which is kinda worthless cause you posted like what? 3 posts?) and please explain why, I hate baseless bullshit.


So do you throw a pointless fit every time Kenpachi claims VT too?

Why are you trying to call me scum for something that is alignment-null?


Because Kenpachi if fucking annoying.

Im not calling you scum I'm asking you to explain your actions. read up the post lol


so what was the point of saying that I was shitting up discussion? Is that what happened?

I think claiming vanilla is a good way to start a game when there's nothing else to do. Kenpachi rule might be effective, it might not be, but it's completely alignment-irrelevant.

Although to toot my own horn as scum I would never do it because it would mean I couldn't fakeclaim later. As scum I plan ahead and having the opportunity to fakeclaim something is imperative. If I claim vanilla town in my first post that's basically thrown out the window.


There was policy lynch discussion? I guess your response was good though, I agree because fake-claiming later is basically a no-go if you did that.

Now, opinions on prplhz and Sinensis please?
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 07 2012 02:18 GMT
#331
On July 07 2012 11:15 Bluelightz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 10:59 NoSmurfHere wrote:
On July 07 2012 10:29 Bluelightz wrote:
On July 07 2012 09:43 NoSmurfHere wrote:
On July 07 2012 09:40 Bluelightz wrote:
On July 07 2012 09:34 NoSmurfHere wrote:
I don't understand how claiming vanilla town is "shitting up discussion"

I never responded to you because your concerns honestly weren't worth responding to in the first place.


First, your just making more WIFOM to throw around and discuss (which is kinda worthless cause you posted like what? 3 posts?) and please explain why, I hate baseless bullshit.


So do you throw a pointless fit every time Kenpachi claims VT too?

Why are you trying to call me scum for something that is alignment-null?


Because Kenpachi if fucking annoying.

Im not calling you scum I'm asking you to explain your actions. read up the post lol


so what was the point of saying that I was shitting up discussion? Is that what happened?

I think claiming vanilla is a good way to start a game when there's nothing else to do. Kenpachi rule might be effective, it might not be, but it's completely alignment-irrelevant.

Although to toot my own horn as scum I would never do it because it would mean I couldn't fakeclaim later. As scum I plan ahead and having the opportunity to fakeclaim something is imperative. If I claim vanilla town in my first post that's basically thrown out the window.


There was policy lynch discussion? I guess your response was good though, I agree because fake-claiming later is basically a no-go if you did that.

Now, opinions on prplhz and Sinensis please?


reread my filter, I've already explained my stance on prplhz. He's almost certainly scum and it would take something fairly significant to change my vote.

As for Sinensis I lean scum on him, but given that he made an easy mislynch the last time I played with him, he could be anything. He has no content so it's rather futile to try and solidify a read of him until he posts a bit more.
The following statement is true. The previous statement is false.
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
July 07 2012 02:22 GMT
#332
Bluelightz, can you consolidate your reads on prplhz, Dangeresque77, drwiggl3s and Sinensis? Your posts are really spaced out and it's hard to follow your train of thought.

Do it all in one post.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
July 07 2012 03:03 GMT
#333
I thought I checked this thread before work and nothing was going on... give me like, 40 minutes to catch up 10 pages just got home.
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
July 07 2012 03:11 GMT
#334
On July 07 2012 11:22 Zephirdd wrote:
Bluelightz, can you consolidate your reads on prplhz, Dangeresque77, drwiggl3s and Sinensis? Your posts are really spaced out and it's hard to follow your train of thought.

Do it all in one post.


prplhz: Leaning scum, likeliest vote, reasons explained in my filter (his posts have no substance, his reasons on slOosh is crap)

Dangeresque77: umm, some baseless reads, noob town imo, he has provided satisfactory answers to my questions, but I don't understand who he 'thinks' is scummy, but I don't think we should lynch him right now, there are better lynch candidates then him such as orolhz

drwiggl3s; I don't like his attitude. He say's that theres only nuff' shit in the thread to make a supposedly weak case but doesn't care to point it out, as well as just wanting to piggyback other people's cases (also doesn't want to make a case). maybe scum.

Sinensis: one post, atleast has substance, but I will wait for more post's to get a more accurate read on him.
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
July 07 2012 03:42 GMT
#335
Okay, I'm caught up:

sloosh, what are you doing? You vote wiggles with no explanation, people call you out for it, you change your vote to me with no explanation at first, people call you out for it, then your explanation is that I was your first suspicion (even though you randomly voted wiggles first?) because my posting is mechanical? My posting is mechanical and that's why I'm scummy, maybe you could elaborate on that. Even though you seem to have changed your mind again to prplhz before I responded to you. Are you just jumping on the easiest target every time? What's the deal?

Prplhz shouldn't be lynched today. No way in hell. He's gotten too much negative attention from too many people, it seems likely to me mafia is pushing for the easy lynch against an aggressive player. And why wouldn't they? prplhz isn't playing as good or as friendly as he could be. This is the last time I defend him against the rest of the angry mob unless he stops with the "LOL SCUM LOL."

I am going to go with gut for my day one vote. Zephirdd's posting is the scummiest right now in my opinion. He spends a lot of his time telling other, presumably town players, how to play. Something mafia can't seem to resist doing in most of the games I play. He is stating mostly FACTS (people talking like they know something for certain are suspicious because only mafia have FACTS) and very little speculation.

As for everyone who is suspicious of me for lurking, you're right, it's suspicious, my bad. I work during the day (USEAST) and can't post till night usually. Expect my posts then, like I'm doing now. If anyone has any questions for me now is a good time I will be around.

##vote: Zephirdd
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
July 07 2012 03:58 GMT
#336
On July 07 2012 12:42 Sinensis wrote:
Okay, I'm caught up:

sloosh, what are you doing? You vote wiggles with no explanation, people call you out for it, you change your vote to me with no explanation at first, people call you out for it, then your explanation is that I was your first suspicion (even though you randomly voted wiggles first?) because my posting is mechanical? My posting is mechanical and that's why I'm scummy, maybe you could elaborate on that. Even though you seem to have changed your mind again to prplhz before I responded to you. Are you just jumping on the easiest target every time? What's the deal?

Prplhz shouldn't be lynched today. No way in hell. He's gotten too much negative attention from too many people, it seems likely to me mafia is pushing for the easy lynch against an aggressive player. And why wouldn't they? prplhz isn't playing as good or as friendly as he could be. This is the last time I defend him against the rest of the angry mob unless he stops with the "LOL SCUM LOL."

I am going to go with gut for my day one vote. Zephirdd's posting is the scummiest right now in my opinion. He spends a lot of his time telling other, presumably town players, how to play. Something mafia can't seem to resist doing in most of the games I play. He is stating mostly FACTS (people talking like they know something for certain are suspicious because only mafia have FACTS) and very little speculation.

As for everyone who is suspicious of me for lurking, you're right, it's suspicious, my bad. I work during the day (USEAST) and can't post till night usually. Expect my posts then, like I'm doing now. If anyone has any questions for me now is a good time I will be around.

##vote: Zephirdd


Alright, there are a couple of wrong things here.
1. Calls sloosh out, yet considers me the scummiest target

2. Says prplhz has gotten too much negative attention. Can you tell me it is possible to give him a positive trait to his play? No you can't. Because there is NO positive trait to his play so far. He's gotten a lot of negative attention because that's what his play warrants - and you agree with this on your very last sentence. In fact, his lynch has actually gotten an awfully lot of resistance, more than I would like.

3. Reasoning for me being scum is bullshit and does not warrant a vote. I posted an awful lot for day 1 this game, so if you want to point out specific points in my play, do it and I'll counter anything you have.

I've stated things with certainty, because that's what I believe to be true. Stating things as FACTS means being certain of yourself. Maybe they are wrong later, who cares. What's important is that I'm decisive in what I say, and I should be held accountable to that later.

Also, I love how it took you 39mins to arrive at the conclusion that I am scum, when you are behind 10 pages. Will want to hear more from you.
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Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
July 07 2012 04:01 GMT
#337
These people saying I'm too mechanical... what? You want me to post hilarious one liners and memes like others? Maybe someone could host a mafia pictionary edition where no one can post more than one image and one line of text at a time. We could call it 4chan mafia. Maybe I should use less capitalization and punctuation to help fit in.

I understand being criticized for lurking, but being "too mechanical?" For my posts being well thought out, really? There are actually people bashing me for that?
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
July 07 2012 04:04 GMT
#338
On July 07 2012 12:58 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 12:42 Sinensis wrote:
Okay, I'm caught up:

sloosh, what are you doing? You vote wiggles with no explanation, people call you out for it, you change your vote to me with no explanation at first, people call you out for it, then your explanation is that I was your first suspicion (even though you randomly voted wiggles first?) because my posting is mechanical? My posting is mechanical and that's why I'm scummy, maybe you could elaborate on that. Even though you seem to have changed your mind again to prplhz before I responded to you. Are you just jumping on the easiest target every time? What's the deal?

Prplhz shouldn't be lynched today. No way in hell. He's gotten too much negative attention from too many people, it seems likely to me mafia is pushing for the easy lynch against an aggressive player. And why wouldn't they? prplhz isn't playing as good or as friendly as he could be. This is the last time I defend him against the rest of the angry mob unless he stops with the "LOL SCUM LOL."

I am going to go with gut for my day one vote. Zephirdd's posting is the scummiest right now in my opinion. He spends a lot of his time telling other, presumably town players, how to play. Something mafia can't seem to resist doing in most of the games I play. He is stating mostly FACTS (people talking like they know something for certain are suspicious because only mafia have FACTS) and very little speculation.

As for everyone who is suspicious of me for lurking, you're right, it's suspicious, my bad. I work during the day (USEAST) and can't post till night usually. Expect my posts then, like I'm doing now. If anyone has any questions for me now is a good time I will be around.

##vote: Zephirdd


Alright, there are a couple of wrong things here.
1. Calls sloosh out, yet considers me the scummiest target

2. Says prplhz has gotten too much negative attention. Can you tell me it is possible to give him a positive trait to his play? No you can't. Because there is NO positive trait to his play so far. He's gotten a lot of negative attention because that's what his play warrants - and you agree with this on your very last sentence. In fact, his lynch has actually gotten an awfully lot of resistance, more than I would like.

3. Reasoning for me being scum is bullshit and does not warrant a vote. I posted an awful lot for day 1 this game, so if you want to point out specific points in my play, do it and I'll counter anything you have.

I've stated things with certainty, because that's what I believe to be true. Stating things as FACTS means being certain of yourself. Maybe they are wrong later, who cares. What's important is that I'm decisive in what I say, and I should be held accountable to that later.

Also, I love how it took you 39mins to arrive at the conclusion that I am scum, when you are behind 10 pages. Will want to hear more from you.


1. Well, at least you can read.
2. I stand by what I said.
3. "Your reason is bullshit because it's bullshit."

Good job.
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
July 07 2012 04:05 GMT
#339
On July 07 2012 13:01 Sinensis wrote:
These people saying I'm too mechanical... what? You want me to post hilarious one liners and memes like others? Maybe someone could host a mafia pictionary edition where no one can post more than one image and one line of text at a time. We could call it 4chan mafia. Maybe I should use less capitalization and punctuation to help fit in.

I understand being criticized for lurking, but being "too mechanical?" For my posts being well thought out, really? There are actually people bashing me for that?


That comes from the assumption that a town player has no need to be careful, as long as he is playing pro-town. Scum normally wants to play really carefully. That's the feeling your first post gave.

For the record, the difference of that and prplhz's play is that on prplhz case, he attempted to create havoc in the thread. And complained about it. And thrown it again. And later didn't even defend himself, just said "lulz listen to this guy maaan". It's not being pro-town, it's being disruptive.
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Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
July 07 2012 04:08 GMT
#340
On July 07 2012 13:05 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 13:01 Sinensis wrote:
These people saying I'm too mechanical... what? You want me to post hilarious one liners and memes like others? Maybe someone could host a mafia pictionary edition where no one can post more than one image and one line of text at a time. We could call it 4chan mafia. Maybe I should use less capitalization and punctuation to help fit in.

I understand being criticized for lurking, but being "too mechanical?" For my posts being well thought out, really? There are actually people bashing me for that?


That comes from the assumption that a town player has no need to be careful, as long as he is playing pro-town. Scum normally wants to play really carefully. That's the feeling your first post gave.

For the record, the difference of that and prplhz's play is that on prplhz case, he attempted to create havoc in the thread. And complained about it. And thrown it again. And later didn't even defend himself, just said "lulz listen to this guy maaan". It's not being pro-town, it's being disruptive.


Yeah, and I don't think he'd post like that as mafia. I don't think anyone would. I don't know how else you want me to explain it to you but I believe what I believe and if you take a look at my history in TL games, it's usually pretty hard to change my mind once I've made it up.
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