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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
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Sevryn
698 Posts
On July 23 2011 06:46 DragonReborn422 wrote: I don't really have much more to say. All the discussion seems to stem around me. I've addressed everything that I have found...if your not satisfied...then I'm sorry. You guys think I'm bad...I think you're bad...whatever. I have nothing to add on matters regarding my stance on the random lynch or my list (lol at making fun of a list of my reads). My likelier scum suspects at the moment are about the same as this mroning. trotske, vicera, sveryn, and maybe jaycinto (but definitely not jaycinto and vicera both). I'll hop in on other discussions or if there's something new addressed to me. Do you have any reasons to support your scum reads ATM? | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On July 23 2011 10:44 Ace wrote: How many hours until deadline and what is the vote count? 13 hours and 15 minutes to the lynch, votecount coming right up | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
Day 1 Votecount RedFF(0) Ace (0) VisceraEyer(0) DragonReborn422 (5) Jacinto VisceraEyes Palmar aprudds Sevryn Palmar (2) Ace Lord Vatti trotske(1) DragonReborn422 Lord Vatti(1) redFF aprudds (1) Fortress Fortune [b][blue] With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch! DragonReborn422 Currently leading the vote with five votes, but has not yet reached a majority. 2 people have yet to vote. Day ends in 13 hours. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Then again my last post about reading the thread got ignored so I'm not even surprised it's come to this. Can anyone show me an actual good case against DR22? | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
The case against DR422 remains that he doesn't even commit to his own scum-reads, he's leaning heavy scum on VE and then votes for a random lurker. It's the safest possible play in the book. But then again, just like when you accused me of putting words in people's mouths and then promptly did it yourself, now you're accusing people of not reading the thread and then you do the same shit yourself again? I don't even have second thoughts anymore, I'm pretty convinced DR422 is scum. The worst part is that you call me detrimental to town, yet you defend someone on rather flimsy evidence, like there is nothing that should have you so convinced he's town... unless you of course already know his alignment, that's actually a possibilty. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
And once again, here you go stretching things to your definition of what you want to appear. What flimsy evidence have I defended DR22? The case against him is weaker than the case against you. How can you even dare say he isn't committing to his Scum reads when VE has already accused like 4 people? It's funny because if you read DR22's posts it's perfectly possible to see that when he listed his Town reads, he could have easily leaned towards taking back his Scum reads and going for a lurker. Of course you somehow didn't see this - but thats because you aren't reading the thread. I don't know DR22's alignment (lol stop trying to plant your little bugs, it's cute but your efforts are so transparent) but I do know the case for lynching him is weak, especially with your Scummy play so far. | ||
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Lord Vatti
United States20 Posts
##Vote Ace ...Because i am the mafia! WAHAHAHAHA! MANY SHALL DIE TONIGHT! | ||
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DragonReborn422
United States91 Posts
On July 23 2011 14:04 Sevryn wrote: Do you have any reasons to support your scum reads ATM? Trotske has played an interesting game. His posts have been very methodical although sometimes with some errors. He is very actively lurking the thread. Many of his posts are in the form of a question for another player to clarify. These kind of posts are very safe as he doesn't antagonize anyone or allow him the chance to slip up. Pretty common activity for a newer scum player not sure about what to post to try to fit in. Otherwise, he is fairly noncommittal about who he thinks is scum. I'm going to upgrade him to a moderate scum lean. I have a moderate-heavy lean on Vicera being a scum...but this is more of a feel play here. I think his early game looks like a scum player who has had a few games of experience under his belt and tries a little too hard to fit in with the village. (This is why I call his posts forced.) I don't remember much about him after our squabble..but I will re-read. Sveryn, you wwere kind of flying under the radar. I had a slight scum lean on you at the beginning of the day. You popped in with a fair amount of posts yesterday. It feels like you feel content to lynch whoever. You're not really looking for scum candidates. I think you are a little >rand chance of being scum. Jacinto is probably my weakest scum candidate. I mostly feel like one of jacinto or vicera have to be scum but not both. | ||
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DragonReborn422
United States91 Posts
On July 23 2011 20:02 Palmar wrote: So you've gone from me being scum to me simply being detrimental to town? The case against DR422 remains that he doesn't even commit to his own scum-reads, he's leaning heavy scum on VE and then votes for a random lurker. It's the safest possible play in the book. But then again, just like when you accused me of putting words in people's mouths and then promptly did it yourself, now you're accusing people of not reading the thread and then you do the same shit yourself again? I don't even have second thoughts anymore, I'm pretty convinced DR422 is scum. The worst part is that you call me detrimental to town, yet you defend someone on rather flimsy evidence, like there is nothing that should have you so convinced he's town... unless you of course already know his alignment, that's actually a possibilty. I have committed to my scum reads. I really hate it when you make stuff up like this. I posted that I don't mind keeping Viscera around even if he is scum as he posts a fair amount and that is useful in itself. I had a scum lean on trotske before I voted him. | ||
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DragonReborn422
United States91 Posts
Can we get a wagon on trotske? | ||
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vonKlaust
Sweden158 Posts
Fingers crossed. | ||
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DragonReborn422
United States91 Posts
On July 24 2011 00:01 Jacinto wrote: I have reread, and even though I'm not as convinced as I was before, my vote will stay on DR. I still feel that he would be the best target for a d1 lynch. Chances are I will fall asleep in an hour or two, so I probably won't be around to be able to do a last minute vote. Fingers crossed. I don't really like this post. feels like you're setting yourself up for if/when i do turn up townie to say "oh yea i wasn't as convinced on him being scum." | ||
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Trotske
410 Posts
Please show me where I have acted as Scum and not just asked for clarifications on certain things due to the fact that this is my first game of mafia, EVER. This whole game I have tried to reason out some of the positions other people have held using logic and the Question "does this help the town?" From what I understand your main reason to think that I am scum has to do with me lurking, which is not the case at all of what I was doing. What I have been doing this whole thread has been asking questions when I don't understand something or only talking when I have something useful to contribute aka not just posting to post. If you think I am wrong anywhere in this post point it out and I will explain why I am not wrong or apologize for it. ##vote DragonReborn422 | ||
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DragonReborn422
United States91 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On July 23 2011 20:59 Ace wrote: detrimental to town = you being Scum. And once again, here you go stretching things to your definition of what you want to appear. What flimsy evidence have I defended DR22? The case against him is weaker than the case against you. How can you even dare say he isn't committing to his Scum reads when VE has already accused like 4 people? It's funny because if you read DR22's posts it's perfectly possible to see that when he listed his Town reads, he could have easily leaned towards taking back his Scum reads and going for a lurker. Of course you somehow didn't see this - but thats because you aren't reading the thread. I don't know DR22's alignment (lol stop trying to plant your little bugs, it's cute but your efforts are so transparent) but I do know the case for lynching him is weak, especially with your Scummy play so far. I'm enjoying your play this game Ace. Although I gotta say...it doesn't seem like play from the guy who wrote Ace's Guide to Winning As Scum. Perhaps that's intentional? You haven't given ANY evidence while defending DR224. You do appear to be making stuff up; which 4 people have I accused? As I recall, I've accused you, and I've accused DR224. And it's looking more and more likely every hour. Here's what I'm wondering now. Once DR224 flips red, how in the SHIT are you going to explain your defense of him? | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
On July 24 2011 00:40 Trotske wrote: DR I think your reason's for trying to make a wagon on me have more to do with you trying to save yourself and less about me being scum. Please show me where I have acted as Scum and not just asked for clarifications on certain things due to the fact that this is my first game of mafia, EVER. This whole game I have tried to reason out some of the positions other people have held using logic and the Question "does this help the town?" From what I understand your main reason to think that I am scum has to do with me lurking, which is not the case at all of what I was doing. What I have been doing this whole thread has been asking questions when I don't understand something or only talking when I have something useful to contribute aka not just posting to post. If you think I am wrong anywhere in this post point it out and I will explain why I am not wrong or apologize for it. ##vote DragonReborn422 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/lpwlJ.gif) | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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DragonReborn422
United States91 Posts
I agree with this. As far as I can see a RL has a 9:3 chance of just making us down a townie and we don't even know if we have a DT, If we have a DT then there is a 50% chance of there being a Roleblocker also if the DT claims they then have a 50% chance of being useless. Can someone please explain why a RL is better than a no lynch. This is Trotske's first post in response to Ace's idea of a random lynch. He posts mostly facts which cannot be argued and ends with a question. A very safe first post. Could you point out the flaws in his reasoning? It seems to me that your posts have been more useless than his by bashing what he has to say and not supporting it at all other than saying "It has worked before" and not giving and evidence. This is Trotske's second post asking me to point out flaws in his reasoning. Again, even though he misrepresents what I have said...he asks a question of clarification in the illusion of working at the case. How can the town do worse than a RL day1. His third post in responding to how it's possible the town could do worse than a random lynch on Day1. Notice another question basically. Still no opinions of scums or townies. Notice the trend? Thank you, that's what I wanted a solid reason. This is in response to my explanation on how town could suck it up Day1. He apparently agrees that I have a solid reason. Again a safe post...still hasn't made an opinion of much of anything yet. Sure ill comment, I don't know what to think, DR seems like a douche but that doesn't mean hes scum I feel like all this back and forth between DR, VE, and Ace could be some elaborate plan to confuse the new players like me into getting behind one of these guys to lead them to a lynch. The way I see our D1 lynch options are Inactive > one of DR, VE, or Ace > RL. That's my view. Ok, people have asked trotske to comment. He comments but what does he say? He doesn't really say much. He thinks its better lynch an inactive. Safe. See a pattern here? By "playing safe" makes me a solid vote and yet people who look scummy to you are obv town? Is your head on backwards or is there something else going on here? This is in response to me voting him because he's playing so passively. Again questions...although this time it's pretty rhetorical. You doing nothing but sitting on the fence does make you look scummy actually. I pop up when I have something useful to say otherwise I'm watching to see whats going on considering this is my first game and someone asked me to say something so I responded. I'm not sure how this is more scummy than say Sevryn or Fortress Fortune. Seems to me that if you post a lot but have nothing to say == scum. Don't post a lot because you have nothing useful to contribute == scum. Keep telling everyone who you think could be scum from a couple of posts == townie? Like I said in an earlier post my lynch list still has inactive people at the top but DR is getting up there because he keeps voting for someone different at the drop of a hat. Responding to me calling his play scummy so far. You haven't really said anything useful so far. We know almost nothing of your opinions besides you would prefer lynching an inactive (that is a serious copout). Inactives are still at the top of his list...but I'm moving up on it...but his reasoning for me moving up is because I keep voting for different people at a drop of a hat. Well, I've voted one person so far. YOU. Yea sorry the word I meant to say wasn't vote. After re-reading most of the thread Your not near as suspicious as I thought you were but that's not to say I wont keep my eye on you. Response to me. He has re-read the the thread and I'm not that suspicious anymore. cool. Now note that I still voted him prior to this post and haven't moved my vote at all. what did you just edit? See the pattern here. Most of his posts are either facts or questions. It's hard to find faults in your logic in your posts when all you post are questions. DR I think your reason's for trying to make a wagon on me have more to do with you trying to save yourself and less about me being scum. Please show me where I have acted as Scum and not just asked for clarifications on certain things due to the fact that this is my first game of mafia, EVER. This whole game I have tried to reason out some of the positions other people have held using logic and the Question "does this help the town?" From what I understand your main reason to think that I am scum has to do with me lurking, which is not the case at all of what I was doing. What I have been doing this whole thread has been asking questions when I don't understand something or only talking when I have something useful to contribute aka not just posting to post. If you think I am wrong anywhere in this post point it out and I will explain why I am not wrong or apologize for it. ##vote DragonReborn422 His final post during the time of this writeup. He thinks I'm trying to save myself and don't think he's scum, thus to wagon him. Um, of course I'm going to vote someone and not vote myself. sorry buddy. But, I voted for him yesterday already!! I have called him out on being safe and passive as being scummy. I've never thought he was scum because he was lurking. There are people with far fewer posts than him. Now he votes me....if you read his previous posts...I was "not near as suspicious as I thought" to trotske. but now he votes me! and he claims that i'm voting him to save myself. what!? hypocrisy. What in the world have I done in the very few posts in between to make me the best lynch for him. tldr; trotske probably a scum | ||
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DragonReborn422
United States91 Posts
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