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@Jacinto
I'm getting really tired of posts that misrepresent what I say. I really am. I've NEVER implicitly or explicitly said it's better to RL then scum-hunt.
This is part of a post I made: "but honestly...i doubt the town has a higher than 25% of finding a mafia on day 1."
How in the world do you deduce that I think RL>scumhunt from that. OK, I DO THINK the town only has about a rand chance of finding a scum. BUT. we can not lynch active posters or people that have posted...and a myriad of other factors which can make a random lynch NOT GOOD. There I made an argument for you guys why random lynch is bad. now you're going to think im scummy for making an argument for this lolol.
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On July 23 2011 06:10 DragonReborn422 wrote:
@Sevryn
I've answered all your question and concerns. Please answer one of mine. You say "Basic a lot of his posts contradict one another" Please show the posts which contract each other.
Your whole playstyle is contradicting you basically say "look at me im so exp follow me everyone i will part the waters." and then when someone calls you out instead of supporting yourself you suggest maybe your they aren't used to the way you play. Also you say you answered my questions and concerns but you never say how saying someone is so scummy they couldn't be scum is reasonable logic. its like you have levels of scummy and once someone goes so high they become town again?
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@Sevryn
This is the last time I will address this because I have done it already and people don't want to read the same things. I think Palmar has a posting style that looks somewhat scummy. He doesn't use all the facts and misrepresents what people have said. Yes, on level 1 this looks scummy..and it's certainly possible he is a scum...but I think it's more likely he's a townie being lazy.
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That's not the point. I understand you think palmar looks scummy but how can you just say he looks scummy BUT hes probably being lazy
especially on day one when its such limited information if someone looks scummy you jump down their pants and grab hold of the short hairs till they convince you they are not.
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On July 23 2011 06:24 Sevryn wrote:
That's not the point. I understand you think palmar looks scummy but how can you just say he looks scummy BUT hes probably being lazy
especially on day one when its such limited information if someone looks scummy you jump down their pants and grab hold of the short hairs till they convince you they are not.
scums usually try to avoid looking like scums.
townies try to find scums.
palmar's actions falls to the 2nd criteria IMO
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I'm most definitely not a lazy town, so if that's your verdict you might as well vote for me. Maybe this is your normal scumplay. Carefully making sure not to vote straight against the person accusing you, but instead discrediting them by dismissing the arguments as lazy/bad. On top of that somehow praising yourself as some vet who should be listened to. Perhaps it's time you put some of those valuable skills to use and you scumhunt, instead of voting for the first lurker that shows his face.
You haven't pushed your ideas at all.
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@Palmar
I'm going to humor you and just go through all your posts and dissect them all and show how much you misrepresent facts or just plain make stuff up
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Sweden158 Posts
On July 23 2011 06:18 DragonReborn422 wrote:
@Jacinto
I'm getting really tired of posts that misrepresent what I say. I really am. I've NEVER implicitly or explicitly said it's better to RL then scum-hunt.
This is part of a post I made: "but honestly...i doubt the town has a higher than 25% of finding a mafia on day 1."
How in the world do you deduce that I think RL>scumhunt from that. OK, I DO THINK the town only has about a rand chance of finding a scum. BUT. we can not lynch active posters or people that have posted...and a myriad of other factors which can make a random lynch NOT GOOD. There I made an argument for you guys why random lynch is bad. now you're going to think im scummy for making an argument for this lolol.
Here is how i deduce it.
Set Up:
1 Mafia Role Blocker, 2 Mafia Goons, 7 Town, 1 Medic, 1 Detective - Chance of hitting scum: 33%
1 Mafia Role Blocker, 2 Mafia Goons, 9 Town - Chance of hitting scum: 33%
3 Mafia Goons, 1 Medic, 8 Town - Chance of hitting scum: 33%
3 Mafia Goons, 1 Detective, 8 Town - Chance of hitting scum: 33%
What you are saying is that you think there is less than 25% chance for us to hit scum, and as you can see, we have higher chances than that with RL. So if that's your stance, why wouldn't you support RL?
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On July 23 2011 06:33 DragonReborn422 wrote:
@Palmar
I'm going to humor you and just go through all your posts and dissect them all and show how much you misrepresent facts or just plain make stuff up
If you are going to make a reasoned fos out of it then do it but if you don't think he is mafia then don't waste your time.
As to your experience as far as i am concerned you are a 50 post user on tl in your first mafia game and will be until you prove that you are good. Stop being so condescending!
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On July 23 2011 06:33 Jacinto wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 06:18 DragonReborn422 wrote:
@Jacinto
I'm getting really tired of posts that misrepresent what I say. I really am. I've NEVER implicitly or explicitly said it's better to RL then scum-hunt.
This is part of a post I made: "but honestly...i doubt the town has a higher than 25% of finding a mafia on day 1."
How in the world do you deduce that I think RL>scumhunt from that. OK, I DO THINK the town only has about a rand chance of finding a scum. BUT. we can not lynch active posters or people that have posted...and a myriad of other factors which can make a random lynch NOT GOOD. There I made an argument for you guys why random lynch is bad. now you're going to think im scummy for making an argument for this lolol. Here is how i deduce it. Set Up: 1 Mafia Role Blocker, 2 Mafia Goons, 7 Town, 1 Medic, 1 Detective - Chance of hitting scum: 33% 1 Mafia Role Blocker, 2 Mafia Goons, 9 Town - Chance of hitting scum: 33% 3 Mafia Goons, 1 Medic, 8 Town - Chance of hitting scum: 33% 3 Mafia Goons, 1 Detective, 8 Town - Chance of hitting scum: 33% What you are saying is that you think there is less than 25% chance for us to hit scum, and as you can see, we have higher chances than that with RL. So if that's your stance, why wouldn't you support RL?
umm... what? looks like somebody needs to go back to the 3rd grade. in all 4 scenarios, there are 3 mafia out of 12 total people. That means there is a 25% chance of hitting scum.
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On July 23 2011 06:33 Jacinto wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 06:18 DragonReborn422 wrote:
@Jacinto
I'm getting really tired of posts that misrepresent what I say. I really am. I've NEVER implicitly or explicitly said it's better to RL then scum-hunt.
This is part of a post I made: "but honestly...i doubt the town has a higher than 25% of finding a mafia on day 1."
How in the world do you deduce that I think RL>scumhunt from that. OK, I DO THINK the town only has about a rand chance of finding a scum. BUT. we can not lynch active posters or people that have posted...and a myriad of other factors which can make a random lynch NOT GOOD. There I made an argument for you guys why random lynch is bad. now you're going to think im scummy for making an argument for this lolol. Here is how i deduce it. Set Up: 1 Mafia Role Blocker, 2 Mafia Goons, 7 Town, 1 Medic, 1 Detective - Chance of hitting scum: 33% 1 Mafia Role Blocker, 2 Mafia Goons, 9 Town - Chance of hitting scum: 33% 3 Mafia Goons, 1 Medic, 8 Town - Chance of hitting scum: 33% 3 Mafia Goons, 1 Detective, 8 Town - Chance of hitting scum: 33% What you are saying is that you think there is less than 25% chance for us to hit scum, and as you can see, we have higher chances than that with RL. So if that's your stance, why wouldn't you support RL?
your math is wrong 3/12 is 25% not 33%
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Sweden158 Posts
Oh, yeah you're right lol. Seems like i need to go back to 3rd grade.
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Would someone give me a recap.... why are we all voting DR? RedFF i understand your reason to vote me. it makes perfect sense. I don't really have a legitimate reason for voting Palmer... Palmer just seemed suspicious to me. I know that seems scummy, but townies make mistakes so... ##unvote Palmer. I really have to learn to not make hasty decisions. i had no backing, and i apologize for the hasty vote. if i get lynched that would make sense, because i do seem rather scummy. I'm just sayin' sorry...
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On July 23 2011 06:40 Lord Vatti wrote:
Would someone give me a recap.... why are we all voting DR? RedFF i understand your reason to vote me. it makes perfect sense. I don't really have a legitimate reason for voting Palmer... Palmer just seemed suspicious to me. I know that seems scummy, but townies make mistakes so... ##unvote Palmer. I really have to learn to not make hasty decisions. i had no backing, and i apologize for the hasty vote. if i get lynched that would make sense, because i do seem rather scummy. I'm just sayin' sorry...
really?
is this your first game?
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I don't really have much more to say. All the discussion seems to stem around me. I've addressed everything that I have found...if your not satisfied...then I'm sorry.
You guys think I'm bad...I think you're bad...whatever. I have nothing to add on matters regarding my stance on the random lynch or my list (lol at making fun of a list of my reads).
My likelier scum suspects at the moment are about the same as this mroning. trotske, vicera, sveryn, and maybe jaycinto (but definitely not jaycinto and vicera both).
I'll hop in on other discussions or if there's something new addressed to me.
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On July 23 2011 06:45 Lord Vatti wrote:
yes.
You should probably read ver's guide on how to improve, that post was bad.
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On July 23 2011 04:56 Fortress Fortune wrote:@aprudss Show nested quote +On July 22 2011 12:31 aprudds wrote:
So VisceraEyes if your so against random lynch what would be your alternative? Sit around and do nothing while scum picks us off at night? Can you provide a better option backed up with reasoning other then "NO THATS BAD!!!!!"? Show nested quote +On July 22 2011 12:46 aprudds wrote:On July 22 2011 12:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
Uh, aprudds...my suggestion was to scum-hunt...you know, play the game? Decide who's scummiest and lynch them? That's been my suggestion all along. When did I say 'NO THAT'S BAD!!!!'? It's not bad - I'll concede that it has about a 25% success rate. But I won't agree to it here because there's no need.
Ace just wants to. That's why it's being considered. Then go scum hunt. Why are you getting so worked up over something pointless? Do you honestly believe people will go for a random lynch if you have solid evidence against someone? I think you just have a bone to pick with ace and are trying to find any excuse to point at him. Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 01:11 aprudds wrote:
Dragon for such a "EXPERIENCED PLAYER" your play has been less then stellar. bash and rush for cover.
No editing. Further edits will result in modkills
Also, a reminder to everyone to play nice, attack arguments not people.
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Wow...I guess no one had anything nice to say. Sad day. Everyone vote for DR422.
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How many hours until deadline and what is the vote count?
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