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On July 23 2011 04:17 DragonReborn422 wrote: actually, you're the first person i've voted trotske. keep making stuff up though.
Yea sorry the word I meant to say wasn't vote. After re-reading most of the thread Your not near as suspicious as I thought you were but that's not to say I wont keep my eye on you.
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@aprudss
On July 22 2011 12:31 aprudds wrote: So VisceraEyes if your so against random lynch what would be your alternative? Sit around and do nothing while scum picks us off at night? Can you provide a better option backed up with reasoning other then "NO THATS BAD!!!!!"?
On July 22 2011 12:46 aprudds wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2011 12:33 VisceraEyes wrote: Uh, aprudds...my suggestion was to scum-hunt...you know, play the game? Decide who's scummiest and lynch them? That's been my suggestion all along. When did I say 'NO THAT'S BAD!!!!'? It's not bad - I'll concede that it has about a 25% success rate. But I won't agree to it here because there's no need.
Ace just wants to. That's why it's being considered. Then go scum hunt. Why are you getting so worked up over something pointless? Do you honestly believe people will go for a random lynch if you have solid evidence against someone? I think you just have a bone to pick with ace and are trying to find any excuse to point at him.
On July 23 2011 01:11 aprudds wrote: Dragon for such a "EXPERIENCED PLAYER" your play has been less then stellar.
bash and rush for cover.
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@trotske added VE nested quote to keep context.
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On July 23 2011 04:56 Fortress Fortune wrote:@aprudss Show nested quote +On July 22 2011 12:31 aprudds wrote: So VisceraEyes if your so against random lynch what would be your alternative? Sit around and do nothing while scum picks us off at night? Can you provide a better option backed up with reasoning other then "NO THATS BAD!!!!!"? Show nested quote +On July 22 2011 12:46 aprudds wrote:On July 22 2011 12:33 VisceraEyes wrote: Uh, aprudds...my suggestion was to scum-hunt...you know, play the game? Decide who's scummiest and lynch them? That's been my suggestion all along. When did I say 'NO THAT'S BAD!!!!'? It's not bad - I'll concede that it has about a 25% success rate. But I won't agree to it here because there's no need.
Ace just wants to. That's why it's being considered. Then go scum hunt. Why are you getting so worked up over something pointless? Do you honestly believe people will go for a random lynch if you have solid evidence against someone? I think you just have a bone to pick with ace and are trying to find any excuse to point at him. Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 01:11 aprudds wrote: Dragon for such a "EXPERIENCED PLAYER" your play has been less then stellar. bash and rush for cover.
I don't see the "run for cover aspect". I have made comments when things don't make sense or feel off to keep people honest. Perhaps you could elaborate more with something other than a oneliner?
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On July 23 2011 03:16 DragonReborn422 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 03:11 Lord Vatti wrote: /suspicious look
I can't put my finger on it but it just gives this weird mafia VIBE that doesn't seem right... I dunno. Cant put it into words. Someone back me up here...
palmar looks so scummy that he can't be a scum. he's just a confused villager imo saying something looks so scummy that they cant be scum is bad logic. basicly your saying if scum just plays super dumb and scummy people will be well no scum would be that obvious. some people are just bad. and thats a great way for you to save your scum buddy palmar from suspision.
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On July 23 2011 05:11 Fortress Fortune wrote: @trotske added VE nested quote to keep context. Did you read the rules? Edits are not allowed at all
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@FF
While I appreciate your transparency, editing is not allowed or tolerated in games in this subforum. Just FYI.
@aprudds I see what he's saying, personally...because I read the original post. it's only a one-liner because you asked for clarification from his ORIGINAL POST, which was far from a one-liner. How about you not just cast suspicious light on everything you see to try and deflect suspicion away from yourself? How about instead, you actually take your own advice, find the most suspicious person in the thread and make a case against them?
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Holy crap just reread my post and my grammar is atrocious sorry people just got home from work and trying to spew my brain into type.
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On July 23 2011 05:36 VisceraEyes wrote: @FF
While I appreciate your transparency, editing is not allowed or tolerated in games in this subforum. Just FYI.
Yeah never edit, you can double post or triple post or whatever, but never edit...
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On July 23 2011 03:22 DragonReborn422 wrote: What is odd about my list? Are you not accustomed to lists or do you disagree with my thoughts on the players? Please expand. Basically saying the other person doesn't understand how good a list is without explaining why the list is good.
On July 23 2011 01:34 DragonReborn422 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 01:30 aprudds wrote:On July 23 2011 01:24 DragonReborn422 wrote: I'm not waving my e-penis around. It's annoying when peopel with 8 games played calls my idea stupid. I haven't called anyone's ideas or posts stupid. Your waving it again. I don't think you can even recognize it. well, you're certainly giving me enough attention. move onto something else kitty. tell him to stop pressuring him without giving a reason as to why he shouldn't be pressured
On July 23 2011 02:51 DragonReborn422 wrote: I'm trying to find the mafia regardless of what some of you might think. Trying to save myself does help find the mafia as I am 100% sure of my own role.
I apologize if I am doing it differently than how some of you may be accustomed to. I'm not familiar with the traditions on the forum. once again using how experienced he is with mafia but how inexperienced he is on TL mafia as an excuse as to why his play is odd.
On July 23 2011 00:14 DragonReborn422 wrote: I'm ok with a random lynch. I'm also ok for an unrandom lynch. pointless post.
On July 22 2011 23:57 DragonReborn422 wrote: @Palmar
I've agreed to Ace's plan. Where? Please show me a post that DIRECTLY states we should random lynch. I've given some arguments on why a random lynch is OK because some of you guys didn't understand it.
Also your sample size of 8 games makes you the mafia theorycrafter to tell me who has played over 100 what i do is stupid? for real? once again waving around how experienced he is.
Basic a lot of his post seem to contradict each other. he claims to be super experienced but never explains why he does what he does. such as why the list is good instead of maybe your not used to lists. A large number of posts are useless and don't add anything while looking like they are doing something. He is the scummiest I am seeing at the moment.
##vote DragonReborn422
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@Sevryn I'm just at a loss of words at your last post. Every one of your points is either blatantly wrong or a misrepresentation. I will respond more in depth in a second.
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On July 23 2011 05:49 DragonReborn422 wrote: @Sevryn I'm just at a loss of words at your last post. Every one of your points is either blatantly wrong or a misrepresentation. I will respond more in depth in a second. Good maybe you can explain some of your reasoning as well
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Basically saying the other person doesn't understand how good a list is without explaining why the list is good.
I asked him if lists were uncommon or he didn't like my points. what are you talking about explaining why a list is good. I've given all my reads at that particular point in the game. I also made a post explaining that if dead and I turn up a townie you have some observations from me as a verified townsperson.
tell him to stop pressuring him without giving a reason as to why he shouldn't be pressured
he wasn't pressuring me. he kept badgering me about my game experience and my e-peen or whatever and i told him to drop it. that's all.
once again using how experienced he is with mafia but how inexperienced he is on TL mafia as an excuse as to why his play is odd.
I've seen this line a few times now. What exactly is "odd?"
pointless post.
not a pointless post. i've had to repeat myself several times because people keep making things up. i've had to repeat myself several times.
Basic a lot of his post seem to contradict each other. he claims to be super experienced but never explains why he does what he does. such as why the list is good instead of maybe your not used to lists. A large number of posts are useless and don't add anything while looking like they are doing something. He is the scummiest I am seeing at the moment.
this might be the worst post of all. "Basically a lot of his post seem to contradict each other." You can't throw a statement out like that and not show where I contradict myself. I'm not here to explain everything I do. I'm here to find mafia members. I have to explain a LIST? WTF? It's a list of my reads on people. Take it for what it's worth. Feel free to use anything from it...feel free to ignore it. It's a list of my reads at the moment.
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On July 23 2011 05:56 DragonReborn422 wrote:Show nested quote + Basically saying the other person doesn't understand how good a list is without explaining why the list is good.
I asked him if lists were uncommon or he didn't like my points. what are you talking about explaining why a list is good. I've given all my reads at that particular point in the game. I also made a post explaining that if dead and I turn up a townie you have some observations from me as a verified townsperson. Show nested quote + tell him to stop pressuring him without giving a reason as to why he shouldn't be pressured
he wasn't pressuring me. he kept badgering me about my game experience and my e-peen or whatever and i told him to drop it. that's all. Show nested quote + once again using how experienced he is with mafia but how inexperienced he is on TL mafia as an excuse as to why his play is odd.
I've seen this line a few times now. What exactly is "odd?" not a pointless post. i've had to repeat myself several times because people keep making things up. i've had to repeat myself several times. Show nested quote + Basic a lot of his post seem to contradict each other. he claims to be super experienced but never explains why he does what he does. such as why the list is good instead of maybe your not used to lists. A large number of posts are useless and don't add anything while looking like they are doing something. He is the scummiest I am seeing at the moment.
this might be the worst post of all. "Basically a lot of his post seem to contradict each other." You can't throw a statement out like that and not show where I contradict myself. I'm not here to explain everything I do. I'm here to find mafia members. I have to explain a LIST? WTF? It's a list of my reads on people. Take it for what it's worth. Feel free to use anything from it...feel free to ignore it. It's a list of my reads at the moment. Can you comment on why if someone looks scummy enough they are no longer considered scum by you? and what is the point at which someone is to scummy to be scum?
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@Sevryn
Some posters can just look scummy by nature. It depends on their post style. Not everyone is gifted with preparing logical, easily readable posts.
I guess you're talking about me thinking Palmar is a town. Well, I don't really like his posts. I think he hasn't read all the posts fully and definitely has misrepresented what some people have said to make some of his arguments. While of course it's possible he is a mafia (doing this intentionally)..he's more likely a townie (doing this unintentionally/lazy/emotionally/whatever).
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I was refering to the post where your only reasoning was "palmar looks so scummy that he can't be a scum. he's just a confused villager imo" This is just really bad town play by you.
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On July 23 2011 06:05 Sevryn wrote: I was refering to the post where your only reasoning was "palmar looks so scummy that he can't be a scum. he's just a confused villager imo" This is just really bad town play by you.
????? I've already explained my thought on Palmar.
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@Sevryn
I've answered all your question and concerns. Please answer one of mine. You say "Basic a lot of his posts contradict one another" Please show the posts which contract each other.
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On July 22 2011 23:53 DragonReborn422 wrote: I'd like to respond to Jacinto's post. I'm not sure how to multi-quote so I'll just address his points individually.
I've never said it's beter to scumhunt than to RL. Don't know where you get this from.
Well, what you said was actually that you think it's better to RL than to scumhunt. + Show Spoiler +but honestly...i doubt the town has a higher than 25% of finding a mafia on day 1.
Ok you kind of got me here. I don't really care who we lynch (although I will fervently defend myself as I'm 100% sure of my town townie role). I don't think Viscera is scummy for having an opinion. Where do you come up with this? I think Viscera's post is a somewhat forced comeback to Ace which although sounds nice isn't really. I think his post is FORCED and looks overly helpful (whilst not being that helpful)!!!!!
Yes, I don't have a problem with you defending yourself, I have a problem with you talking alot, but contributing very little. And I don't even understand what you mean here. What happened whas that A. Ace came up with a plan, B. Viscera didn't like the plan, C. Viscera argued against the plan. After rereading said posts, I still really can't see what you mean. If you could point at exactly what you don't like with the posts, maybe I'll change my mind. You should try.
Don't know where you get this idea from. First of all Ace made several posts. I just enjoyed his posts in general. If I say..Obama made a great speech. That doesn't mean I agree with everything in it. I just liked his posts in general.
At the time you wrote that you like Ace's posts, he ha made exactly two posts saying
And Show nested quote +Lots of new players(no meta) + I don't always take meta into consideration on Day 1. I'm also not going to wait for a Scum slip. I also don't want to know what the setup is until Day 2 when (if) the Detective has a chance to get off an investigation.
So we can random lynch to kick things off, or go the traditional route and play the discussion game.
Although if I was going to lynch someone you or Palmero over there would get the noose asap.
Please explain what you like with these posts.
How am I being aggressive? Almost all my posts are responses to people trying to defend myself from made up accusations. I never said the town can never do a good choice. I said I doubt we can achieve higher than 25% and it depends on the town/mafia players. Quit putting your bias into my posts please.
I didn't mean you were agressive in the sense that you were bashing people. I meant you made posts with an agressive vibe. And yes, you said that you doubt town can achieve higher than 25%, so why didn't you openly take this side of the argument, providing some reasoning? Instead you kept claiming that you do not have an opinion at all.
So my mafia tactic is to push the town towards a random lynch...this is what you're implying? Yet I have made accusations on Viscera, you and aprudds? Makes sense yo. So I can't throw accusations? Lol. I had reasons (good or bad) for thinking viscera's posts were scummy. I just didn't like aprudds first post. I hate saying things like "If he is not scum, he is just playing really, really oddly." aka if he isnt scum he sucks. i probably have more games played than everyone here combined and probably at a higher level of play. Let's try to stay away from the mud-slinging ok?
What I am saying is that you constantly do wierd stuff, and I don't like it at all. Maybe you wanted to push for RL, I don't know. What I do know is that you keep saying that you do not have an opinion in anything, but still posts a bunch, and even implying now and again that you do have an opinion.
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