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aprudds
Canada144 Posts
On July 23 2011 01:24 DragonReborn422 wrote: I'm not waving my e-penis around. It's annoying when peopel with 8 games played calls my idea stupid. I haven't called anyone's ideas or posts stupid. Your waving it again. I don't think you can even recognize it. | ||
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DragonReborn422
United States91 Posts
On July 23 2011 01:30 aprudds wrote: Your waving it again. I don't think you can even recognize it. well, you're certainly giving me enough attention. move onto something else kitty. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
Nice. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
Dragon, you've expressed suspicion on me, why not build a case against me instead of trying to discredit those who are attacking you? Your buddy Ace has a vote on me, now would be a SPLENDID time. | ||
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DragonReborn422
United States91 Posts
2. Sevryn - has made only 2 posts that i can see. both have been advice/generalizations about the game. he doesn't have any leans on anyone. i lean mafia on him. 3. Jacinto - trying hard which is a pretty good sign. most likely not mafia/mafia with viscera. But I think its very possible one or the other is. slight mafia lean. 4. Palmar - lean town...although i don't really get the case on redFF. i mean most cases are pretty weak on day1...but you seem somewhat adamant on redFF. 5. VisceraEyes - Heavy mafia lean. Very defensive and a I still like my read about his posts regarding the random lynch to be forced. Does post a fair amount so not lynching on day1 would be ok. 6. aprudds - has made 5 posts since the game has begun. 0 have been regarding player roles. They've all been about what he likes or doesn't like about posts. No lean. 7. Pyo - a pretty solid long post. slight town lean 8. Trotske - pretty UTR. nothing stands out. thus a slight mafia lean. 9. DragonReborn422 - 100% townie 10. Ace - have no clue on his role but i like his posts...would like to keep him around for at least another day 11.Lord Vatti - hasn't posted 12. Fortress Fortune - hasn't posted | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
##Unvote redFF ##Vote DragonReborn422 | ||
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Pyo
United States738 Posts
On July 23 2011 01:49 Palmar wrote: thanks DragonReborn422 ##Unvote redFF ##Vote DragonReborn422 I don't really like this bandwagon forming against DR. Maybe it's because I don't find the idea of a random lynch to be so abhorrently objectionable, but I didn't really get a scum read from DR. Granted he's been giving off this "I'm better than you" aura of arrogance, which does rub me the wrong way a little, but that doesn't make him scum. I think we're better off putting some pressure on the guys who haven't said much of anything. Sevryn, Trotske, Fortress? Care to comment? (Lord Vatti was modkilled for disappearing immediately after SNMMIV started and wouldn't at all be surprised if he got modkilled here as well - I hope Curu has been keeping up, lol) | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
So, how about it, we lynch you instead? That list was completely uncalled for, making a list like that where he calls everyone town is just his way of trying to make friends as scum. Why the fuck would you share your town reads as town? I don't really give a shit who he thinks is town, I want to know who he thinks is scum. Like, I don't even think this is a questionable lynch, that shitty list just screams that he wants to contribute, make friends, but not commit to anything. | ||
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Trotske
410 Posts
I don't know what to think, DR seems like a douche but that doesn't mean hes scum I feel like all this back and forth between DR, VE, and Ace could be some elaborate plan to confuse the new players like me into getting behind one of these guys to lead them to a lynch. The way I see our D1 lynch options are Inactive > one of DR, VE, or Ace > RL. That's my view. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
What do you mean when you say my posts look 'forced'? | ||
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DragonReborn422
United States91 Posts
On July 23 2011 02:20 Palmar wrote: yeah pyo, I would expect you to like random lynching, as you think voting for yourself is a good idea on day one. So, how about it, we lynch you instead? That list was completely uncalled for, making a list like that where he calls everyone town is just his way of trying to make friends as scum. Why the fuck would you share your town reads as town? I don't really give a shit who he thinks is town, I want to know who he thinks is scum. Like, I don't even think this is a questionable lynch, that shitty list just screams that he wants to contribute, make friends, but not commit to anything. why would you not share your reads on everyone? if you die and your role is revealed your opinions matter more. not that your reads are all necessarily right...but at least you know if he died a townie he at least had the best intentions. Of the 9 players I put leans on townie or mafia..I put 4 mafia leans. I did not call everyone town. | ||
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DragonReborn422
United States91 Posts
On July 23 2011 02:35 VisceraEyes wrote: DR, what do you mean by 'forced'? I thought I knew, but I want to know what YOU mean when you say it. You've said it in almost ALL the posts regarding me you've made. What do you mean when you say my posts look 'forced'? The idea behind the mafia player is to "fit in" with the rest of the town. It's harder to post as mafia because you have to put more thoughts into your posts so you don't give yourself away. As a townie, you don't quite have that holding you back. When I say your post appear forced....it means a post that seems unnatural and doesn't flow with a townsperson's way of thinking. Your response to ace's idea of a random lynch seemed like the thought "oh i can look to help the town by derailing this idea (regardless of how good the idea is)" of course this is all only conjecture and theory on my part. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On July 23 2011 00:08 Palmar wrote: How the fuck have you played 100 games? have you been playing for years? Anyway This makes it look like you're perfectly fine with RL. That's a terrible idea and you should know it. And yes, I call out anyone who acts stupidly for acting stupidly. ##vote Palmar Guys, listen up. This is such a ridiculous post, part of many that Palmar has made that should be looked at seriously. Hold your biases for a second, stop and re-read the thread from the start of the game. You'll notice Palmar has been trying to undermine myself and DR22 on this Random Lynch issue. Not only did he put words in our mouths to make up stuff that wasn't said but he's even taking it a step further and now acting like "The Town" has decided Random Lynching is bad, and is thus Scummy if you support it. Since when did we ever decide that Random Lynching is a Scum move?. We never did. Even worse, how could he take that stance (deciding that "The Town" has made RL scummy) when he posted this: On July 22 2011 18:34 Palmar wrote: lol, I can see why people say you're good Ace, you somehow convinced half the thread that a random lynch on day 1 is a good idea? How is it that I could have convinced half the thread that a Random Lynch is a good idea, but within the same day you also have stated that the Town has decided otherwise? Like here: On July 22 2011 23:29 Palmar wrote: You agreed with ace's plan. From town perspective it doesn't make any sense, as judging by the sample of games I've played town has more like 50%+ chance of hitting mafia on day one, so if you're town, you should by logic never agree to this plan. Not only is he speaking for the Town, but now he is throwing out some falsities. The town doesn't have a "more than 50% chance" of hitting Mafia on Day 1 in any game of Mafia unless the game is broken. This is such an utterly stupid and absurd statement I don't know how anyone who has ever played a game of Mafia hasn't called him out on it. This quoted post is also another in a long line of Palmar misrepresenting DR's position. As DR asked him: On July 22 2011 23:57 DragonReborn422 wrote: @Palmar I've agreed to Ace's plan. Where? Please show me a post that DIRECTLY states we should random lynch. To which Palmar has no response. The same as he can't list who I've convinced to RL. This is typical newbie Scum play. Like I said, just re-read the thread from scratch. There is no way that someone that is BLINDLY tunneling, not even reading other player's posts and purposely misrepresenting their position is likely Town. That's just so many blatant bad moves that he should be lynched. So once again, ## vote Palmar. | ||
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Lord Vatti
United States20 Posts
re-reading the post... ## vote Palmar he seems the most suspicious, and i definitely agree with ace. Palmar man, start defending yourself or your heading to the rope. | ||
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DragonReborn422
United States91 Posts
I apologize if I am doing it differently than how some of you may be accustomed to. I'm not familiar with the traditions on the forum. | ||
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DragonReborn422
United States91 Posts
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Lord Vatti
United States20 Posts
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DragonReborn422
United States91 Posts
## vote trotske | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
I'm just gonna go to sleep. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On July 23 2011 02:46 DragonReborn422 wrote: The idea behind the mafia player is to "fit in" with the rest of the town. It's harder to post as mafia because you have to put more thoughts into your posts so you don't give yourself away. As a townie, you don't quite have that holding you back. When I say your post appear forced....it means a post that seems unnatural and doesn't flow with a townsperson's way of thinking. Your response to ace's idea of a random lynch seemed like the thought "oh i can look to help the town by derailing this idea (regardless of how good the idea is)" of course this is all only conjecture and theory on my part. I think I get what you're saying. But here's my issue with this post. You're AGAIN advocating Ace's idea without actually saying so. And at no point did I DERAIL his idea - I gave my opinion on it and gave the reasons I didn't like it. I never shut down discussion on it, nor did I try and steer discussion away from it. I gave my opinion on it. And I have the reasons I didn't like it. What part of what I said doesn't "flow with a townsperson's way of thinking"? You're saying that a townsperson would NOT want to pick the best lynch candidate based on behavior and information? Or that a townsperson would NOT rather increase their chances of hitting scum by discussion rather than take a flat 25% on a random lynch? Which part of my explanations is "unnatural"? | ||
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