Surprisingly Normal Mini Mafia V - Page 16

On July 24 2011 01:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Define definitives if you please.

On July 24 2011 01:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
What I find humorous about your post Dragon is that while you were posting that, I was literally looking through YOUR posts to see if I'm missing something, ANYTHING, that makes you seem less scummy. I can't find anything sir...but nothing is certain until the flip.

On July 24 2011 01:23 DragonReborn422 wrote:


His final post during the time of this writeup. He thinks I'm trying to save myself and don't think he's scum, thus to wagon him. Um, of course I'm going to vote someone and not vote myself. sorry buddy. But, I voted for him yesterday already!! I have called him out on being safe and passive as being scummy. I've never thought he was scum because he was lurking. There are people with far fewer posts than him.

Now he votes me....if you read his previous posts...I was "not near as suspicious as I thought" to trotske. but now he votes me! and he claims that i'm voting him to save myself. what!? hypocrisy. What in the world have I done in the very few posts in between to make me the best lynch for him.

tldr; trotske probably a scum

On July 23 2011 03:43 DragonReborn422 wrote:


you look kind of scummy to me. "scummy" is all relative. you're lurking in the thread..popping up when your name gets mentioned. and that's about it. you're flying pretty low key...a pretty decent mafia candidate imo.

On July 23 2011 23:40 DragonReborn422 wrote:


Trotske has played an interesting game. His posts have been very methodical although sometimes with some errors. He is very actively lurking the thread. Many of his posts are in the form of a question for another player to clarify. These kind of posts are very safe as he doesn't antagonize anyone or allow him the chance to slip up. Pretty common activity for a newer scum player not sure about what to post to try to fit in. Otherwise, he is fairly noncommittal about who he thinks is scum. I'm going to upgrade him to a moderate scum lean.

I have a moderate-heavy lean on Vicera being a scum...but this is more of a feel play here. I think his early game looks like a scum player who has had a few games of experience under his belt and tries a little too hard to fit in with the village. (This is why I call his posts forced.) I don't remember much about him after our squabble..but I will re-read.

Sveryn, you wwere kind of flying under the radar. I had a slight scum lean on you at the beginning of the day. You popped in with a fair amount of posts yesterday. It feels like you feel content to lynch whoever. You're not really looking for scum candidates. I think you are a little >rand chance of being scum.

Jacinto is probably my weakest scum candidate. I mostly feel like one of jacinto or vicera have to be scum but not both.

On July 24 2011 00:40 Trotske wrote:
DR I think your reason's for trying to make a wagon on me have more to do with you trying to save yourself and less about me being scum.

Please show me where I have acted as Scum and not just asked for clarifications on certain things due to the fact that this is my first game of mafia, EVER. This whole game I have tried to reason out some of the positions other people have held using logic and the Question "does this help the town?"

From what I understand your main reason to think that I am scum has to do with me lurking, which is not the case at all of what I was doing. What I have been doing this whole thread has been asking questions when I don't understand something or only talking when I have something useful to contribute aka not just posting to post.

If you think I am wrong anywhere in this post point it out and I will explain why I am not wrong or apologize for it.

##vote DragonReborn422

I've never thought he was scum because he was lurking

On July 24 2011 02:07 DragonReborn422 wrote:


This is EXACTLY what I wrote. trotske, your posts are getting worse and worse. seriously.

On July 23 2011 23:40 DragonReborn422 wrote:


Trotske has played an interesting game. His posts have been very methodical although sometimes with some errors. He is very actively lurking the thread. Many of his posts are in the form of a question for another player to clarify. These kind of posts are very safe as he doesn't antagonize anyone or allow him the chance to slip up. Pretty common activity for a newer scum player not sure about what to post to try to fit in. Otherwise, he is fairly noncommittal about who he thinks is scum. I'm going to upgrade him to a moderate scum lean.

On July 22 2011 10:59 DragonReborn422 wrote:
Jacinto and VisceraEyes look kind of scummy. Not sure on how much you guys have played though.

FOS (Finger of Suspicion) : Jacinto and Viscera. Ok this is the one and only time im going to use FOS...but i couldnt resist the first time. it's amusing to me in some way.

You guys look helpful but you're really not. Posts look a little forced. Jacinto looks a little better than Viscera.

I like Ace's posts.

On July 22 2011 11:23 DragonReborn422 wrote:


I'm not necessarily in favor of a random lynch. However, a random lynch has a solid success rate. Given that this is a game with a fair amount of beginners, it can be very easy for the mafia to direct the kills in this game. Again, a lot of this depends on how much you have played...but it looks like you have some experience.

I think your posts look a little forced and look helpful to the casual eye but really isn't helpful. Objecting to a random lynch by saying we have a higher chance of finding a mafia sounds really nice in theory....but honestly...i doubt the town has a higher than 25% of finding a mafia on day 1.

On July 22 2011 11:43 DragonReborn422 wrote:
You're missing the point of my argument Viscera. I don't care if we do a random lynch or not. I found it strange that you protest it making you look scummy. That is all. Perhaps our chances of hitting the mafia is more than 25% perhaps not. Again, I don't care a lick about the lynch. I'm pointing out that you are trying to helpful to the inexperienced whereas you're actually not.

On July 22 2011 11:54 DragonReborn422 wrote:


I haven't bashed anyone. What are you talking about? His reasoning is that the town can do better than a random lynch on day 1 and we should not random lynch. I don't care if we do a random lynch or not. Maybe THIS town CAN do better than a random lynch on day1. It could also DO worse than a random lynch on day1. I HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING WHICH.

I am pointing out that he appears helpful by saying that oh yea we can analayze and talk and discuss and we have a better chance of finding a mafia on day1. I think this looks pretty cool to the casual observer as yea...he sounds intelligent and useful...whereas in reality....we really don't know how good this town is. If we have a terrible town maybe we should just keeping randoming!!

On July 22 2011 12:03 DragonReborn422 wrote:


I'm not sure if that's a serious question. But I'll bite.

We can be led down the wrong path by inexperienced townspeople or experienced mafia players or the combination of both and easily have wagons on only townspeople. With the mafia members knowing whos who, they have an advantage on day 1 to control the wagons more.

On July 22 2011 12:18 DragonReborn422 wrote:


I think you overrate how good players can be at this game. But even so...this is Day 1. See you should support a random lynch then because according to you..the experienced mafia player ace is leading the town to lynch you (presumably a townie).

On July 22 2011 23:13 DragonReborn422 wrote:
um why would i show a strong stance on whether to random lynch or not. I thought the argument about it was pointless and hence why i thought viscera was scummy. I don't really even understand why we're still talking about this random lynch. we have no idea how good this town is at scum-hunting so the notion that omg we can nail a mafia 5/8 times is absurd.

Wait wait wait...back up the truth train here a second. You were JUST insisting that I was lthe point entirely...that you thought I was scummy for my 'forced, unnatural, apparently-helpful-but-not-so-much posting'? I thought the RL discussion was 'interesting' to you? Now you're contradicting yourself too. Cool.

On July 24 2011 03:34 Sevryn wrote:
Just need one more vote from DR422 and he is the scummiest atm and the best d1 lynch.
so if someone would kindly vote for DR422 we can get the scum killing train on the tracks

On July 24 2011 03:37 DragonReborn422 wrote:


+townie points

but definitely a confused one as i am not scum