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DragonReborn422
United States91 Posts
On July 24 2011 03:43 Sevryn wrote: dude its to late to try and make me your buddy by giving me some of your "townie points" this post is just so bad on so many levels. i'm not trying to be your buddy. I'm poitning out to everyoen that your post is more likely as a townie than a mafia member. sheesh. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
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DragonReborn422
United States91 Posts
you're again misrepresenting what i said. I never said that you're scummy because you're still arguing about RL when it's pointless. I said and quote: "I thought the argument about it was pointless and hence why i thought viscera was scummy." Ihe argument was pointless. I felt like you should have known it...yet you brought it up anyhow. this is exactly why i think your posts were "forced". | ||
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
So I'm going to start it off by saying Ace's plan is horrible and bad. Don't get caught up in his reputation, he knows what he's proposing is harmful to the Town. Why? It's a complete waste of a day and night cycle. If you randomly generate a number, there's no discussion to be had in the day. Everyone policy lynches the guy and regardless of what he flips we have no information to go off the next day. There are several subtle things Ace is pushing that is without a doubt anti Town: I also don't want to know what the setup is until Day 2 when (if) the Detective has a chance to get off an investigation. Encouraging the DT to out himself to know about the setup. If we were to agree to this plan and the DT outs himself, they have an easy kill target or roleblock target. If we were to agree to this plan and no DT outs, then a scum member can claim DT and lead us around his finger. Relying on the presence of power roles to lead the Town is terrible since it encourages sheeping and for everyone to just sit idly and wait for someone to rise up, especially given the possibility that there are no power roles. On July 22 2011 11:18 Ace wrote: I've seen you and Palmar play before thats why  Attacking a player to discredit them. This has the double effect of making the Town doubt the player and making the player doubt himself. That is never a Pro Town attitude, you want people to be unafraid to state their reads and opinions and be able to back it up. If you attack a player until he is unsure about himself, he tends to put too much weight into the opinions of others and become easily sheeped around. Ace has this whole attitude throughout the entire thread, subtly trying to work doubt into VE with a condescending and holier-than-thou attitude. Ace's posting is definitely malicious in nature, his whole *yawn* and /facepalm going to bed stuff has no positive effect whatsoever. I'm not willing to believe a player of Ace's supposed stature is convinced anything he is doing actually helps the Town. On July 22 2011 11:43 DragonReborn422 wrote: You're missing the point of my argument Viscera. I don't care if we do a random lynch or not. I found it strange that you protest it making you look scummy. That is all. Perhaps our chances of hitting the mafia is more than 25% perhaps not. Again, I don't care a lick about the lynch. I'm pointing out that you are trying to helpful to the inexperienced whereas you're actually not. What bullshit is this? You don't care about the lynch? You don't care about the methods we take to find a lynch, and then you claim to be helping inexperienced players? On July 22 2011 23:57 DragonReborn422 wrote: @Palmar I've agreed to Ace's plan. Where? Please show me a post that DIRECTLY states we should random lynch. I've given some arguments on why a random lynch is OK because some of you guys didn't understand it. Also your sample size of 8 games makes you the mafia theorycrafter to tell me who has played over 100 what i do is stupid? for real? Stop flaunting your 9347543 games played, no one cares if what you say doesn't make sense or is anti Town. Also constantly attacks people. DR is also very much pushing a hostile and anti Town atmosphere. He's had a belittling attitude this entire thread through, that's not you how you help inexperienced players. Ace is much more dangerous to me than DR at this point as his anti Town behavior is much more subtle and malevolent, but DR would indeed be my second choice. Both strike me as very hostile to an ideal Town environment. I doubt there's enough time to derail the bandwagon to Ace at this point. ##Vote: DragonReborn422 | ||
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DragonReborn422
United States91 Posts
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DragonReborn422
United States91 Posts
learn to read people's posts before posting. i'm kind of tired of replying to people who can't read. | ||
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Trotske
410 Posts
On July 24 2011 03:59 DragonReborn422 wrote: Curuu. you misrepresent almost everythign in my posts. learn to read people's posts before posting. i'm kind of tired of replying to people who can't read. Can you point out where he does this? I would like to see it. | ||
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DragonReborn422
United States91 Posts
Hi guys. So I'm going to start it off by saying Ace's plan is horrible and bad. Don't get caught up in his reputation, he knows what he's proposing is harmful to the Town. Why? It's a complete waste of a day and night cycle. If you randomly generate a number, there's no discussion to be had in the day. Everyone policy lynches the guy and regardless of what he flips we have no information to go off the next day. clearly we've had 0 discussion today because of ace's plan. What bullshit is this? You don't care about the lynch? You don't care about the methods we take to find a lynch, and then you claim to be helping inexperienced players? I can see how my post is somewhat vague. What I mean when I said "I don't care a lick about the lynch" is whether it was random lynch or not. I never claimed to help inexperienced players. don't know where you get this from. | ||
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DragonReborn422
United States91 Posts
i have given reads on as many players as i can which is much more useful than what most of the people have done honestly. | ||
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Sevryn
698 Posts
On July 24 2011 04:03 DragonReborn422 wrote: clearly we've had 0 discussion today because of ace's plan. I can see how my post is somewhat vague. What I mean when I said "I don't care a lick about the lynch" is whether it was random lynch or not. I never claimed to help inexperienced players. don't know where you get this from. we have had discussion today because we didnt agree to RL | ||
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
It's all but given you're going to die today, so if you want to help Town then expand your thoughts/analysis before you go. Your prior behavior has ensured that you're not going to save yourself. All you've done is try to attack down anyone who votes for you and call them bad. I don't know what sort of environment you like to play in but acting like an elitist asshole and belittling everyone else is just ensuring that no one will take your analysis seriously on top of being extremely hostile to the Town atmosphere, especially in a game that's designed for new players. They already don't have much confidence, direction or experience, posting like you're better than them and deserve some sort of special treatment while slamming them down is just going to turn them into scared sheep. Drop the attitude and maybe people will be more inclined to listen to you. | ||
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DragonReborn422
United States91 Posts
On July 24 2011 04:19 Curu wrote: Your attitude and your posting are ridiculous. Drop the shit and play properly. It's your own fault if you are a Townie that you act like a lightning rod of hostility and anti Town behavior. If you're able to draw 7 votes to yourself without anyone really actively trying to paint you in a bad light, chances are it's your own damn fault. You're not better than anyone else here, stop acting like it. I'm willing to lynch you at this point just so you stop poisoning the thread. It's all but given you're going to die today, so if you want to help Town then expand your thoughts/analysis before you go. Your prior behavior has ensured that you're not going to save yourself. All you've done is try to attack down anyone who votes for you and call them bad. I don't know what sort of environment you like to play in but acting like an elitist asshole and belittling everyone else is just ensuring that no one will take your analysis seriously on top of being extremely hostile to the Town atmosphere, especially in a game that's designed for new players. They already don't have much confidence, direction or experience, posting like you're better than them and deserve some sort of special treatment while slamming them down is just going to turn them into scared sheep. Drop the attitude and maybe people will be more inclined to listen to you. This must be the biggest troll post ever. I can't stop laughing at this. | ||
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
If this is your Town play then I think I speak for everyone on TL that we'd much prefer it if you go back to whatever elitist forum you came from. | ||
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DragonReborn422
United States91 Posts
On July 24 2011 04:25 Curu wrote: Laugh all the way to your lynch. If this is your Town play then I think I speak for everyone on TL that we'd much prefer it if you go back to whatever elitist forum you came from. If that is what is felt then. fine. This will be my last game here. | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
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DragonReborn422
United States91 Posts
On July 24 2011 04:32 redFF wrote: Please don't ragequit just because you got lynched... oh it's not that im getting lynched. I didn't rage when I had 6 or 7 votes on me whatever. Curuu says that it's my own fault if i get lynched because of how i posted. And also my style is not conducive to this forum. What point is there to play here then? I'm going to finish this game out of course if for some small chance I don't get lynched today. | ||
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
I don't understand why you would come into a game designed for new players and act like a condescending elitist jerk. Rather than try to lead Town through your reads and guide them you attack everyone and fill your posts with sarcasm and conceit. The game is supposed to have a lot of new players. Telling them to their face you think they're worthless and horrible is just retarded. Like I said maybe elitism is the norm wherever you came from but on TL, especially in a game that's supposed to help ease new players into becoming more confident and competent, your attitude is poison. | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
On July 23 2011 00:23 DragonReborn422 wrote: RE: redFF he really hasn't posted much. a couple one liners. I used to only post one liners and jokes on day 1....it was entertaining and easy to balance into your mafia game as well. He hasn't gone overly out of his way to look helpful (as viscera has). He's made like 2 quality posts....one in which he rants about newbies and one in which he is confused about randomness. These two don't really go well together to be honest. He's probably average or maybe a little above average scum candidate to me. I'm an above average scum candidate. On July 23 2011 01:47 DragonReborn422 wrote: 1. redFF - i actually have a slight town lean on him. i gave a little analysis on him a few posts ago. Oh no im town actually. On July 23 2011 01:47 DragonReborn422 wrote: 5. VisceraEyes - Heavy mafia lean. Very defensive and a I still like my read about his posts regarding the random lynch to be forced. Does post a fair amount so not lynching on day1 would be ok. 8. Trotske - pretty UTR. nothing stands out. thus a slight mafia lean. He has a heavy mafia lean on Visceyes, and a slight one on trotske. On July 23 2011 03:03 DragonReborn422 wrote: I actually think trotske is a pretty solid vote right now. he's playing so safe. ## vote trotske Trotske hadn't posted since Dragon made that list, but now he is voting for his slight mafia lean instead of his heavy, with pretty bad reasoning to back it up. There's a lot of contradictions in those 3 posts alone. Things im noticing is you refusing to take a stance against people and ideas ie random lynch and your mafia leans. Your voting of Trotske is ironic because you voted him because he was "playing safe". The vote for Trotske was the safest thing you could have done at that moment because a lurker vote is easy to explain and it's unlikely you will be pressured for it. Isn't it ironic, don'tcha think? ##Vote Dragonreborn | ||
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DragonReborn422
United States91 Posts
I moved you from average or maybe a little above average scum to slight town after thinking about it a little bit. never said you were an above average scum candidate. The vote on trotske was to put some pressure on him to post more. he did and then i looked through all his posts and he looked like a good scum canddiate to me. | ||
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DragonReborn422
United States91 Posts
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