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redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 24 2011 22:14 GMT
#361
As far as I know Jacinto was a new player, and he didn't seem a good enough analyst to hit. The only think I can deduce from the death was an attempted blue snipe, as jacinto talked about the detective a few time, rereading his posts.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 25 2011 00:22 GMT
#362
Ace:

On July 24 2011 07:33 Ace wrote:
:/

Of course he was Innocent. Pants on Head logic going on here. I'm actually not even going to try hard this game. I'll be content to sit back assuming I live Night 1, and play like the rest of you and not read the thread.

Being new to Mafia doesn't give you an excuse not to know how to READ.


Okay, regarding this post.

##Vote: Ace

First of all, you never tried to defend Dragon (unless you count the "chainsaw lol defense" of Palmar voting for Dragon), so it's really easy to come in after he flips and say "Oh, you idiots, he was obviously innocent. lrn2reed"

And further, you're so distraught over the loss of this guy that you're just going pretend to not try in frustration of us all being so lolbad? Please. This farce ends here.

Town:

Ace is scum. He didn't even HAVE to try and get Dragon lynched because he was playing so scummy, so Ace's vote was safely on someone else. I voted for Ace earlier but removed it because I didn't feel confident that I could get him lynched...so I thought I'd go after his partner and save Ace for later. I still strongly believe he's scum and if anyone disagrees with me ur lolbad and I quit, just like Ace is pretending to do, but for real. (lol j/k...but srsly, he's scum).

I'd really like town to take a look at his posts and ask yourself "if Ace is town, why is he acting like this?" I haven't been able to figure it out. And NOW he says that he's not even going to try this game "like the rest of you" because "we don't read the thread". Why in the hell would he say this as town? A vote for Ace is a vote for scum. I promise.

WIFOM says he going to claim power-role if we start voting his way just so we policy-don't-lynch, so be prepared. We MUST lynch him tonight. I'm afraid of him as scum.




VisceraEyes

P.S.

WIFOM also says cue Ace's pre-written "lol@Viscera's super-bad-tunnel play". It's sure to be "convincing".
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 25 2011 05:02 GMT
#363
Seriously? 1/4 through the day and I'm the only vote, and only the second thread?? I guess GMarshal's leniency was taken to heart. Lurker mode commence.

@red
I'm not sure if I agree that Jacinto was a blue-snipe. He didn't talk about detectives in a way that hinted or indicated that he was fishing for advice on how to play as one, which seems more likely in a new player as you (accurately imo) deduce. I feel like the hit was designed more specifically to deny town information. When we mislynched Dragon, Jacinto was one of the earlier votes (less suspicious) and simultaniously one of the less vocal (less information to confirm). And one of the only players' meta I feel supports that level of finesse is Ace. See above post.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 25 2011 05:16 GMT
#364
he was asking about zodiac lists.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 25 2011 05:26 GMT
#365
Sorry, busy creaming my pants over PTP. I'll comb through the thread soon I promise.
wat
vonKlaust
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden158 Posts
July 25 2011 08:10 GMT
#366
GG guys. Sorry if i fucked us over with the DR-lynch. Town fighting!
None.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 25 2011 08:19 GMT
#367
On July 24 2011 06:03 Pyo wrote:
Hi curu! I had a feeling that you'd be joining us.

ugh I wake up from my Saturday afternoon nap to see that DR really is going to get lynched...
I'll look over the last 3 pages more carefully in a sec, but I wanted to get a word in before the deadline. Am I the only one who thinks that the case against DR is that he's rubbed people the wrong way (i.e. no real case)? Then again, my scumdar hasn't been one of the best recently (I totally missed redFF and Youngminii's scum vibe in Arkham asylum). Well regardless, it's probably too late to change anything now, so I'm not going to bother voting but several of the "cases" against DR are really suspicious looking. Major FoS on them if DR flips green, and Ace is an obvious next target if DR flips red.


I have a problem with this post.

First of all Pyo did not commit to anything at all on day one. But then he sweeps in, after waiting for long enough to make damn sure town wasn't going to back off the DR422 lynch, and tells us "Look guys, he's not scum"

He also makes sure that we know his scumdar sucks, which is only a good trait if you're mafia.

And finally, nice going, Ace is only a suspect if DR flips red... why?

So, guys, who's your last scumbuddy, Ace, Pyo... and... ?

##Vote Pyo
Computer says mafia
aprudds
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada144 Posts
July 25 2011 12:03 GMT
#368
Waiting on ace to post before I post my thoughts.
Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
July 25 2011 12:16 GMT
#369
sorry I haven't posted a lot since the lynch I'll post my thoughts when I get to work.
Sevryn
Profile Joined September 2010
698 Posts
July 25 2011 15:13 GMT
#370
Looking at Pyo's posts i think he is either scum or super lazy he has a large amount of useless posts and the abstaining from voting.
Ace seems to me to have come into this game with the attitude that town is boned and its all just a barrel of laughs which makes me think there is a good chance he is scum.
because there isn't that much to read off of Pyo im going to vote ace for now.


##Vote Ace
Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
July 25 2011 15:32 GMT
#371
After re-reading most of the thread again looking at only one person's posts at a time.

The first persons posts I looked at after getting a sort of scum vibe from him is VisceraEyes.
Most of his recent posts are him trying to discredit and cast a scummy shadow over Ace but when looking through his posts I havn't found any really good reasons that Ace is scum.

He tells the town to look over Ace's posts here
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 25 2011 09:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ace:

Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 07:33 Ace wrote:
:/

Of course he was Innocent. Pants on Head logic going on here. I'm actually not even going to try hard this game. I'll be content to sit back assuming I live Night 1, and play like the rest of you and not read the thread.

Being new to Mafia doesn't give you an excuse not to know how to READ.


Okay, regarding this post.

##Vote: Ace

First of all, you never tried to defend Dragon (unless you count the "chainsaw lol defense" of Palmar voting for Dragon), so it's really easy to come in after he flips and say "Oh, you idiots, he was obviously innocent. lrn2reed"

And further, you're so distraught over the loss of this guy that you're just going pretend to not try in frustration of us all being so lolbad? Please. This farce ends here.

Town:

Ace is scum. He didn't even HAVE to try and get Dragon lynched because he was playing so scummy, so Ace's vote was safely on someone else. I voted for Ace earlier but removed it because I didn't feel confident that I could get him lynched...so I thought I'd go after his partner and save Ace for later. I still strongly believe he's scum and if anyone disagrees with me ur lolbad and I quit, just like Ace is pretending to do, but for real. (lol j/k...but srsly, he's scum).

I'd really like town to take a look at his posts and ask yourself "if Ace is town, why is he acting like this?" I haven't been able to figure it out. And NOW he says that he's not even going to try this game "like the rest of you" because "we don't read the thread". Why in the hell would he say this as town? A vote for Ace is a vote for scum. I promise.

WIFOM says he going to claim power-role if we start voting his way just so we policy-don't-lynch, so be prepared. We MUST lynch him tonight. I'm afraid of him as scum.




VisceraEyes

P.S.

WIFOM also says cue Ace's pre-written "lol@Viscera's super-bad-tunnel play". It's sure to be "convincing".


Well I did look over Ace's posts and for everything he posted he had a reason that he told us about and backs up his stuff up. VE on the other hand hasn't backed up his claims with any quotes of posts other than saying "you didn't try to back up dragon" When Ace's two posts before the lynch were exactly that.
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 23 2011 19:50 Ace wrote:
You guys should drop your votes on DR22. There isn't a good case against him and Palmar is a far more detrimental player to the Town.

Then again my last post about reading the thread got ignored so I'm not even surprised it's come to this.

Can anyone show me an actual good case against DR22?


+ Show Spoiler +
On July 23 2011 20:59 Ace wrote:
detrimental to town = you being Scum.

And once again, here you go stretching things to your definition of what you want to appear.

What flimsy evidence have I defended DR22? The case against him is weaker than the case against you. How can you even dare say he isn't committing to his Scum reads when VE has already accused like 4 people?

It's funny because if you read DR22's posts it's perfectly possible to see that when he listed his Town reads, he could have easily leaned towards taking back his Scum reads and going for a lurker.

Of course you somehow didn't see this - but thats because you aren't reading the thread. I don't know DR22's alignment (lol stop trying to plant your little bugs, it's cute but your efforts are so transparent) but I do know the case for lynching him is weak, especially with your Scummy play so far.


someone else I have had my eye on is RedFF simply because His posts havn't been helpful at all.
here he posts an img saying that the vote on DR was a bandwagon which might be true
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 24 2011 01:01 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 00:40 Trotske wrote:
DR I think your reason's for trying to make a wagon on me have more to do with you trying to save yourself and less about me being scum.

Please show me where I have acted as Scum and not just asked for clarifications on certain things due to the fact that this is my first game of mafia, EVER. This whole game I have tried to reason out some of the positions other people have held using logic and the Question "does this help the town?"

From what I understand your main reason to think that I am scum has to do with me lurking, which is not the case at all of what I was doing. What I have been doing this whole thread has been asking questions when I don't understand something or only talking when I have something useful to contribute aka not just posting to post.

If you think I am wrong anywhere in this post point it out and I will explain why I am not wrong or apologize for it.

##vote DragonReborn422

[image loading]


Two posts later he votes for DR.

Here is a post from VE putting distance from him and RedFF by disagreeing with him on why Jacinto got hit and then leads that into saying his reasoning supports that Ace is scum again with no proof other than thats what he "feels."

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 25 2011 14:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
Seriously? 1/4 through the day and I'm the only vote, and only the second thread?? I guess GMarshal's leniency was taken to heart. Lurker mode commence.

@red
I'm not sure if I agree that Jacinto was a blue-snipe. He didn't talk about detectives in a way that hinted or indicated that he was fishing for advice on how to play as one, which seems more likely in a new player as you (accurately imo) deduce. I feel like the hit was designed more specifically to deny town information. When we mislynched Dragon, Jacinto was one of the earlier votes (less suspicious) and simultaniously one of the less vocal (less information to confirm). And one of the only players' meta I feel supports that level of finesse is Ace. See above post.


My view on Ace is that He hasn't been trying to fit in like most Scum try to fit in. I am also going to say that I feel like Ace hasn't been doing alot to push his agenda it feels to me like he jsut chimes in every now and then and says what he thinks.



redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 25 2011 18:59 GMT
#372
Yeah I think trotske is scum

##vote trotske
Sevryn
Profile Joined September 2010
698 Posts
July 25 2011 19:07 GMT
#373
On July 26 2011 03:59 redFF wrote:
Yeah I think trotske is scum

##vote trotske

Reasons?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 25 2011 20:16 GMT
#374
On July 26 2011 00:32 Trotske wrote:
After re-reading most of the thread again looking at only one person's posts at a time.

The first persons posts I looked at after getting a sort of scum vibe from him is VisceraEyes.
Most of his recent posts are him trying to discredit and cast a scummy shadow over Ace but when looking through his posts I havn't found any really good reasons that Ace is scum.

He tells the town to look over Ace's posts here
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 25 2011 09:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ace:

Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 07:33 Ace wrote:
:/

Of course he was Innocent. Pants on Head logic going on here. I'm actually not even going to try hard this game. I'll be content to sit back assuming I live Night 1, and play like the rest of you and not read the thread.

Being new to Mafia doesn't give you an excuse not to know how to READ.


Okay, regarding this post.

##Vote: Ace

First of all, you never tried to defend Dragon (unless you count the "chainsaw lol defense" of Palmar voting for Dragon), so it's really easy to come in after he flips and say "Oh, you idiots, he was obviously innocent. lrn2reed"

And further, you're so distraught over the loss of this guy that you're just going pretend to not try in frustration of us all being so lolbad? Please. This farce ends here.

Town:

Ace is scum. He didn't even HAVE to try and get Dragon lynched because he was playing so scummy, so Ace's vote was safely on someone else. I voted for Ace earlier but removed it because I didn't feel confident that I could get him lynched...so I thought I'd go after his partner and save Ace for later. I still strongly believe he's scum and if anyone disagrees with me ur lolbad and I quit, just like Ace is pretending to do, but for real. (lol j/k...but srsly, he's scum).

I'd really like town to take a look at his posts and ask yourself "if Ace is town, why is he acting like this?" I haven't been able to figure it out. And NOW he says that he's not even going to try this game "like the rest of you" because "we don't read the thread". Why in the hell would he say this as town? A vote for Ace is a vote for scum. I promise.

WIFOM says he going to claim power-role if we start voting his way just so we policy-don't-lynch, so be prepared. We MUST lynch him tonight. I'm afraid of him as scum.




VisceraEyes

P.S.

WIFOM also says cue Ace's pre-written "lol@Viscera's super-bad-tunnel play". It's sure to be "convincing".


Well I did look over Ace's posts and for everything he posted he had a reason that he told us about and backs up his stuff up. VE on the other hand hasn't backed up his claims with any quotes of posts other than saying "you didn't try to back up dragon" When Ace's two posts before the lynch were exactly that.
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 23 2011 19:50 Ace wrote:
You guys should drop your votes on DR22. There isn't a good case against him and Palmar is a far more detrimental player to the Town.

Then again my last post about reading the thread got ignored so I'm not even surprised it's come to this.

Can anyone show me an actual good case against DR22?


+ Show Spoiler +
On July 23 2011 20:59 Ace wrote:
detrimental to town = you being Scum.

And once again, here you go stretching things to your definition of what you want to appear.

What flimsy evidence have I defended DR22? The case against him is weaker than the case against you. How can you even dare say he isn't committing to his Scum reads when VE has already accused like 4 people?

It's funny because if you read DR22's posts it's perfectly possible to see that when he listed his Town reads, he could have easily leaned towards taking back his Scum reads and going for a lurker.

Of course you somehow didn't see this - but thats because you aren't reading the thread. I don't know DR22's alignment (lol stop trying to plant your little bugs, it's cute but your efforts are so transparent) but I do know the case for lynching him is weak, especially with your Scummy play so far.


someone else I have had my eye on is RedFF simply because His posts havn't been helpful at all.
here he posts an img saying that the vote on DR was a bandwagon which might be true
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 24 2011 01:01 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 00:40 Trotske wrote:
DR I think your reason's for trying to make a wagon on me have more to do with you trying to save yourself and less about me being scum.

Please show me where I have acted as Scum and not just asked for clarifications on certain things due to the fact that this is my first game of mafia, EVER. This whole game I have tried to reason out some of the positions other people have held using logic and the Question "does this help the town?"

From what I understand your main reason to think that I am scum has to do with me lurking, which is not the case at all of what I was doing. What I have been doing this whole thread has been asking questions when I don't understand something or only talking when I have something useful to contribute aka not just posting to post.

If you think I am wrong anywhere in this post point it out and I will explain why I am not wrong or apologize for it.

##vote DragonReborn422

[image loading]


Two posts later he votes for DR.

Here is a post from VE putting distance from him and RedFF by disagreeing with him on why Jacinto got hit and then leads that into saying his reasoning supports that Ace is scum again with no proof other than thats what he "feels."

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 25 2011 14:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
Seriously? 1/4 through the day and I'm the only vote, and only the second thread?? I guess GMarshal's leniency was taken to heart. Lurker mode commence.

@red
I'm not sure if I agree that Jacinto was a blue-snipe. He didn't talk about detectives in a way that hinted or indicated that he was fishing for advice on how to play as one, which seems more likely in a new player as you (accurately imo) deduce. I feel like the hit was designed more specifically to deny town information. When we mislynched Dragon, Jacinto was one of the earlier votes (less suspicious) and simultaniously one of the less vocal (less information to confirm). And one of the only players' meta I feel supports that level of finesse is Ace. See above post.


My view on Ace is that He hasn't been trying to fit in like most Scum try to fit in. I am also going to say that I feel like Ace hasn't been doing alot to push his agenda it feels to me like he jsut chimes in every now and then and says what he thinks.





My whole case is based on how I feel because he is specifically not posting, sir. None of his posts explicitly incriminate him, and I'm sure that's absolutely by design. Take from that what you want. The fact that you didn't realize this just reading my post (it's written with an obvious air of insecurity and uncertainty), makes me wonder about your motives in defending Ace...just sayin.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
July 25 2011 20:24 GMT
#375
The point of my post wasn't to defend Ace, it was to expose why I feel that you and RedFF are scum.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 25 2011 20:49 GMT
#376
Whether it was the point of your post or not, part of your argument was defending Ace. I understand that you're saying redFF and I are scum, and for the record, I wasn't rying to 'distance' myself from him, only give my opinion to him the only way I can in a game with no PM's...in-thread. So what, I'm not allowed to disagree with someone's points without that being construed as 'distancing'? Your logic there is flawed.

FoS: Trotske if Ace flips red today for defending against a case made against Ace and then backpedaling to 'distance' himself from the action.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
July 25 2011 20:54 GMT
#377
On July 26 2011 05:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
Whether it was the point of your post or not, part of your argument was defending Ace. I understand that you're saying redFF and I are scum, and for the record, I wasn't rying to 'distance' myself from him, only give my opinion to him the only way I can in a game with no PM's...in-thread. So what, I'm not allowed to disagree with someone's points without that being construed as 'distancing'? Your logic there is flawed.

FoS: Trotske if Ace flips red today for defending against a case made against Ace and then backpedaling to 'distance' himself from the action.


I'm not saying your scum for disagreeing with RedFF I'm saying that from your other posts you look scummy and your reasoning for disagreeing was just a feeling making it more suspicious if you are Scum making it look to me that you are trying to distance your self from your scum buddy by disagreeing without actually giving a good reason for it.
Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
July 25 2011 20:55 GMT
#378
I'll also note you don't deny any of the points of my post instead you pick out something that I said wasn't the point of the post to counter accuse me.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 25 2011 20:58 GMT
#379
Actually, your main argument is that I'm not giving 'reasons' for what I say...that it's based on how I feel. And that was the very first thing I responded to. So try again I guess?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
July 25 2011 22:10 GMT
#380
On July 26 2011 05:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
Actually, your main argument is that I'm not giving 'reasons' for what I say...that it's based on how I feel. And that was the very first thing I responded to. So try again I guess?


You mean when you responded by confirming that was true?
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