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On July 26 2011 00:13 Sevryn wrote:
Looking at Pyo's posts i think he is either scum or super lazy he has a large amount of useless posts and the abstaining from voting.
Ace seems to me to have come into this game with the attitude that town is boned and its all just a barrel of laughs which makes me think there is a good chance he is scum.
because there isn't that much to read off of Pyo im going to vote ace for now.
##Vote Ace
Yeah, I guess I have been kind of lazy. Seeing town jump on a bandwagon like that day 1 was certainly demoralizing. I've also kind of bummed myself out of Arkham Asylum too. But I'll start contributing:
If you look back at how the DR bandwagon developed, it all started with this post by Jacinto:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10420934
I thought this was a perfectly reasonable "get the ball rolling" attack on DR. The case was weak, mostly just non-commital play. I figured DR would just brush it off and the case would be dropped, and I thought DR's post was perfectly reasonable:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10429554
Palmar next throws in a few jabs at DR (typical in-your-face Palmar play), but he seems more occupied with RedFF, and even threw out a jab at me as well.
VisceraEyes next jumps in:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10430096
This vote almost feels like VE is reacting to the fact that he doesn't like DR for agreeing with/not being against Ace's plan. I'm not convinced that this is particularly scummy in that it feels a little too committal toward a brewing bandwagon.
The next thing to crop up which really got the ball rolling was this post:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10430660
Here aprudds throws out an ad-hom attack on DR. This is eerily reminiscent of how he managed to start a bandwagon against Freeloader in mafia XL. (For those that don't know, after role PMs went out, Freeloader asked whether mafia could PM each other despite the "no PMs" rule. aprudds brought this up as a scum slip and had the whole town distracted by it for all of day 1.) In this post aprudds is painting DR as an unlikable guy, sort of needlessly needling him/trolling him into acting scummier. And he continues to do it:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10430971
However, appruds doesn't vote for DR right away. It really feels like aprudds is riling up the town making them dislike DR while not really committing to him. It is only after Palmar also votes for DR that you finally cast your vote. To me that seems really scummy and manipulative, just like he played in mafia XL.
##vote: aprudds
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Yes, and explained why. Lack of reasoning for voting IS suspicious, but I have my reasons...they're just not backed up by his posts...but guess what? He's not posting anymore! So what am I supposed to do about it? I referred everyone back to his posts with an assignment. Did you do it? Did you go back and read his posts thinking 'Why would he say this as town? Why would he consider this as town? Why would he act this way as town?" I was literally unable to answer those questions when I read through his posts....so my conclusion is that he's scum and he's playing a very dangerous game...acting so scummy that many won't believe that he's scum. But I'm not fooled, and I'm pushing for his lynch. If you don't agree with me, that's fine...but it doesn't make me scum. It just makes me wrong.
Something else I find suspicious is that you're suspecting the one person trying to save this game from the inactivity monster. So what, you're content to let the thread sit in silence and no-lynch to scum victory?
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I'll also add that I highly doubt Ace is scum. He was literally the only one (I suppose besides myself) that took a stand against the DR lynch. DR flipping green kind of clears him in my mind.
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Pyo, could you point to the post(s) where Ace took a "stand" against the DR lynch? And why would that clear him in your mind? Scum would KNOW who's innocent and can manipulate town with that information by making a "stand" against a lynch that's bound to happen...but I don't even really see the post you're referring to.
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On July 26 2011 07:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yes, and explained why. Lack of reasoning for voting IS suspicious, but I have my reasons...they're just not backed up by his posts...but guess what? He's not posting anymore! So what am I supposed to do about it? I referred everyone back to his posts with an assignment. Did you do it? Did you go back and read his posts thinking 'Why would he say this as town? Why would he consider this as town? Why would he act this way as town?" I was literally unable to answer those questions when I read through his posts....so my conclusion is that he's scum and he's playing a very dangerous game...acting so scummy that many won't believe that he's scum. But I'm not fooled, and I'm pushing for his lynch. If you don't agree with me, that's fine...but it doesn't make me scum. It just makes me wrong.
Something else I find suspicious is that you're suspecting the one person trying to save this game from the inactivity monster. So what, you're content to let the thread sit in silence and no-lynch to scum victory?
What I find suspicious is that you are so sure Ace is scum and when I point out that you have no hard evidence you don't go look for it to prove your point. Notice I haven't voted yet because I'm still trying to get information which is what this is all about and the main information I have gotten from you is that you were pushing for a lynch when we had over 24 hours left with very little evidence which makes me think that there is another reason you want Ace lynched.
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K thx Trotske. When I'm done trying to get Ace lynched, you're next. Don't worry.
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So Mr. Ace still lying low it seems.
Guess he needs a bit more pressure.
##Vote Ace
Where you at ace?
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He's busy pretending to not care about this game...the one that was changed from a boot-camp game to one where vets are welcome, just to accommodate him. Just sayin....
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Day 2 vote count
Ace (3)
VisceraEyes
Sevryn
aprudds
Pyo (1)
Palmar
trotske (1)
redFF
aprudds (1)
Pyo
With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch! Ace is leading the vote with 3 votes but does not yet have a majority! Approximately 23 hours remain in the day and 4 people have yet to vote.
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<3 GM Sorry bout the lurkers bro...I know how you hates dem lurkers. X(
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On July 26 2011 08:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
He's busy pretending to not care about this game...the one that was changed from a boot-camp game to one where vets are welcome, just to accommodate him. Just sayin....
This is factually untrue, this game was going to be open to everyone from its conception.
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I was told that it was going to be a boot-camp game...by you...so I apologize for the misrepresentation, but that's the impression I got.  Please disregard the post before the vote-count town.
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On July 26 2011 08:24 VisceraEyes wrote:I was told that it was going to be a boot-camp game...by you...so I apologize for the misrepresentation, but that's the impression I got. Please disregard the post before the vote-count town.
Well I won't muddle up this thread with any more debate about it, suffice it to say I ran this game because RoL and Radfield both wanted a SNMM open to everyone, like SNMMIII, due to the timing of the game they ended up not being able to play, but it *was* open to everyone from the start, although SNMM's are usually bootcamp games ^_^
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On July 26 2011 07:23 VisceraEyes wrote:
Pyo, could you point to the post(s) where Ace took a "stand" against the DR lynch? And why would that clear him in your mind? Scum would KNOW who's innocent and can manipulate town with that information by making a "stand" against a lynch that's bound to happen...but I don't even really see the post you're referring to.
it was this one:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10443762
and then this one:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=245159¤tpage=15#287
I don't want to defend Ace too hard in case he really is mafia, but I'm inclined to take him at face value: a frustrated veteran mafia player who's throwing a tantrum because no one listened to him day 1 and are now trying to get him lynched.
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On July 26 2011 08:28 GMarshal wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2011 08:24 VisceraEyes wrote:I was told that it was going to be a boot-camp game...by you...so I apologize for the misrepresentation, but that's the impression I got. Please disregard the post before the vote-count town. Well I won't muddle up this thread with any more debate about it, suffice it to say I ran this game because RoL and Radfeild both wanted a SNMM open to everyone, like SNMMIII, due to the timing of the game they ended up not being able to play, but it *was* open to everyone from the start, although SNMM's are usually bootcamp games ^_^
i before e except after c....
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On July 26 2011 07:16 Pyo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2011 00:13 Sevryn wrote:
Looking at Pyo's posts i think he is either scum or super lazy he has a large amount of useless posts and the abstaining from voting.
Ace seems to me to have come into this game with the attitude that town is boned and its all just a barrel of laughs which makes me think there is a good chance he is scum.
because there isn't that much to read off of Pyo im going to vote ace for now.
##Vote Ace Yeah, I guess I have been kind of lazy. Seeing town jump on a bandwagon like that day 1 was certainly demoralizing. I've also kind of bummed myself out of Arkham Asylum too. But I'll start contributing: If you look back at how the DR bandwagon developed, it all started with this post by Jacinto: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10420934I thought this was a perfectly reasonable "get the ball rolling" attack on DR. The case was weak, mostly just non-commital play. I figured DR would just brush it off and the case would be dropped, and I thought DR's post was perfectly reasonable: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10429554Palmar next throws in a few jabs at DR (typical in-your-face Palmar play), but he seems more occupied with RedFF, and even threw out a jab at me as well. VisceraEyes next jumps in: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10430096This vote almost feels like VE is reacting to the fact that he doesn't like DR for agreeing with/not being against Ace's plan. I'm not convinced that this is particularly scummy in that it feels a little too committal toward a brewing bandwagon. The next thing to crop up which really got the ball rolling was this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10430660Here aprudds throws out an ad-hom attack on DR. This is eerily reminiscent of how he managed to start a bandwagon against Freeloader in mafia XL. (For those that don't know, after role PMs went out, Freeloader asked whether mafia could PM each other despite the "no PMs" rule. aprudds brought this up as a scum slip and had the whole town distracted by it for all of day 1.) In this post aprudds is painting DR as an unlikable guy, sort of needlessly needling him/trolling him into acting scummier. And he continues to do it: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10430971However, appruds doesn't vote for DR right away. It really feels like aprudds is riling up the town making them dislike DR while not really committing to him. It is only after Palmar also votes for DR that you finally cast your vote. To me that seems really scummy and manipulative, just like he played in mafia XL. ##vote: aprudds
This is a really strong case. aprudds was kind of flying under my radar.
Right now my top candidates for scum are
1. Ace
2. aprudds
3.Trotske
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Actually im gonna look back through the thread at aprudds
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##vote: Ace
Charges:
@Ace contradiction
On July 21 2011 05:25 Ace wrote:
ok then I'll play
Mute of day two.
On July 21 2011 09:01 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 07:10 Hesmyrr wrote:
Ace joined? Oh shit. Looks like this game might be pretty interesting to follow along. I'll be relaxing this game so I won't be doing anything out of the ordinary. I'm just here to drink my champagne.
On July 22 2011 11:13 Ace wrote:
I'm for random lynching because I'm not expecting anyone to just out themselves so easily. I think it's a fun way to start off the game anyway because I'm not in the mood to read people arguing about things that aren't really that important to this game (like meta).
I'm not sure we have a Detective, but if he/she exists throwing up a random lynch and letting the pieces fall might help set their Scumdar in the right direction.
Seen a player before.
On July 22 2011 11:18 Ace wrote:I've seen you and Palmar play before thats why
Veiled gut reply from the word failure.
On July 22 2011 12:00 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2011 11:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
@Dragon
Actually, you're saying I'm not helpful to YOU. I've answered Jacinto's questions to his satisfaction, where Ace has still failed to do so. Palmar seems to think my opening statements were fine. You're speaking for town when you shouldn't be. Let town speak for themselves. Vote for me if you really think I'm scummy, but don't put words in everyone else' mouths. Let them think for themselves. oh ok this makes it even easier. ## vote VisceraEyes
Spots DR downfall.
On July 22 2011 12:04 Ace wrote:
you want a shovel to dig yourself out of the hole you're making? I'd help you bro, but this champagne glass I'm holding is a little too smooth to put down.
Piggy back on DR, pushed RL bait four times prior and slaps a pinata.
On July 23 2011 02:47 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 00:08 Palmar wrote:How the fuck have you played 100 games? have you been playing for years? Anyway On July 22 2011 12:03 DragonReborn422 wrote:On July 22 2011 11:59 Trotske wrote:On July 22 2011 11:54 DragonReborn422 wrote:On July 22 2011 11:49 Trotske wrote:On July 22 2011 11:43 DragonReborn422 wrote:
You're missing the point of my argument Viscera. I don't care if we do a random lynch or not. I found it strange that you protest it making you look scummy. That is all. Perhaps our chances of hitting the mafia is more than 25% perhaps not. Again, I don't care a lick about the lynch. I'm pointing out that you are trying to helpful to the inexperienced whereas you're actually not. Could you point out the flaws in his reasoning? It seems to me that your posts have been more useless than his by bashing what he has to say and not supporting it at all other than saying "It has worked before" and not giving and evidence. I haven't bashed anyone. What are you talking about? His reasoning is that the town can do better than a random lynch on day 1 and we should not random lynch. I don't care if we do a random lynch or not. Maybe THIS town CAN do better than a random lynch on day1. It could also DO worse than a random lynch on day1. I HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING WHICH. I am pointing out that he appears helpful by saying that oh yea we can analayze and talk and discuss and we have a better chance of finding a mafia on day1. I think this looks pretty cool to the casual observer as yea...he sounds intelligent and useful...whereas in reality....we really don't know how good this town is. If we have a terrible town maybe we should just keeping randoming!! How can the town do worse than a RL day1. I'm not sure if that's a serious question. But I'll bite. We can be led down the wrong path by inexperienced townspeople or experienced mafia players or the combination of both and easily have wagons on only townspeople. With the mafia members knowing whos who, they have an advantage on day 1 to control the wagons more. This makes it look like you're perfectly fine with RL. That's a terrible idea and you should know it. And yes, I call out anyone who acts stupidly for acting stupidly. ##vote PalmarGuys, listen up. This is such a ridiculous post, part of many that Palmar has made that should be looked at seriously. Hold your biases for a second, stop and re-read the thread from the start of the game. You'll notice Palmar has been trying to undermine myself and DR22 on this Random Lynch issue. Not only did he put words in our mouths to make up stuff that wasn't said but he's even taking it a step further and now acting like "The Town" has decided Random Lynching is bad, and is thus Scummy if you support it. Since when did we ever decide that Random Lynching is a Scum move?. We never did. Even worse, how could he take that stance (deciding that "The Town" has made RL scummy) when he posted this: Show nested quote +On July 22 2011 18:34 Palmar wrote:
lol, I can see why people say you're good Ace, you somehow convinced half the thread that a random lynch on day 1 is a good idea?
How is it that I could have convinced half the thread that a Random Lynch is a good idea, but within the same day you also have stated that the Town has decided otherwise? Like here: Show nested quote +On July 22 2011 23:29 Palmar wrote:On July 22 2011 23:15 DragonReborn422 wrote:On July 22 2011 21:26 Palmar wrote:
your mother.
But it's still interesting.
Ace proposes terrible plan, Jacinto and VE don't like it, DragonReborn actually likes it. Like.. would scum actually take the chance? The lynch isn't really 25% chance because the mafia can co-ordinate their votes, if they so please, so I think what DragonReborn did was stupid, but probably not scummy. what exactly did i do that is stupid oh god of mafia? You agreed with ace's plan. From town perspective it doesn't make any sense, as judging by the sample of games I've played town has more like 50%+ chance of hitting mafia on day one, so if you're town, you should by logic never agree to this plan. Not only is he speaking for the Town, but now he is throwing out some falsities. The town doesn't have a "more than 50% chance" of hitting Mafia on Day 1 in any game of Mafia unless the game is broken. This is such an utterly stupid and absurd statement I don't know how anyone who has ever played a game of Mafia hasn't called him out on it. This quoted post is also another in a long line of Palmar misrepresenting DR's position. As DR asked him: Show nested quote +On July 22 2011 23:57 DragonReborn422 wrote:
@Palmar
I've agreed to Ace's plan. Where? Please show me a post that DIRECTLY states we should random lynch. To which Palmar has no response. The same as he can't list who I've convinced to RL. This is typical newbie Scum play. Like I said, just re-read the thread from scratch. There is no way that someone that is BLINDLY tunneling, not even reading other player's posts and purposely misrepresenting their position is likely Town. That's just so many blatant bad moves that he should be lynched. So once again, ## vote Palmar.
Piggy back hold.
On July 23 2011 19:50 Ace wrote:
You guys should drop your votes on DR22. There isn't a good case against him and Palmar is a far more detrimental player to the Town.
Then again my last post about reading the thread got ignored so I'm not even surprised it's come to this.
Can anyone show me an actual good case against DR22?
Attenuation factor: Blue exchange with Jacinto, too obvious, possible frame attempt.
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On July 22 2011 12:32 aprudds wrote:
And yes VisceraEyes, it does look like your making stuff up and putting them in people's mouths. It's quite annoying actually, and it hasn't even happened to me yet.
On July 22 2011 12:31 aprudds wrote:
So VisceraEyes if your so against random lynch what would be your alternative? Sit around and do nothing while scum picks us off at night? Can you provide a better option backed up with reasoning other then "NO THATS BAD!!!!!"?
On July 22 2011 12:46 aprudds wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2011 12:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
Uh, aprudds...my suggestion was to scum-hunt...you know, play the game? Decide who's scummiest and lynch them? That's been my suggestion all along. When did I say 'NO THAT'S BAD!!!!'? It's not bad - I'll concede that it has about a 25% success rate. But I won't agree to it here because there's no need.
Ace just wants to. That's why it's being considered. Then go scum hunt. Why are you getting so worked up over something pointless? Do you honestly believe people will go for a random lynch if you have solid evidence against someone? I think you just have a bone to pick with ace and are trying to find any excuse to point at him.
Tunnels VE for like 3 posts straight
On July 23 2011 01:11 aprudds wrote:Dragon for such a "EXPERIENCED PLAYER" your play has been less then stellar. Stuff like Show nested quote +i probably have more games played than everyone here combined and probably at a higher level of play. Let's try to stay away from the mud-slinging ok? Makes me cry and laugh at the same time. You really seem to like waving your penis around eh? + Show Spoiler +On July 22 2011 10:10 DragonReborn422 wrote:
i was a heavy post counter for werewolf games on 2+2's puzzles and other games. I'm not sure if i will continue that trend on here for mafia games.
I'm sure i will have to adjust to the play style on here. I've mostly played "vanilla games" and not "mish-mash games" which have creative roles. I have probably 100 or so vanilla games played and about 10 mish-mash games played.
I remember the first time a bunch of us played a game on mafiascum and we got into a flame war with the forum just because the style of the game is so different between forums. I am fairly elitist and think my own style is very good, but I'm ok with taking a backseat and learning the ropes on a new forum.
I will post some reads soon.
I like your style of flexing your over 9000 games played. With that many games your reads must be super awesome as well! + Show Spoiler +On July 22 2011 10:59 DragonReborn422 wrote:
Jacinto and VisceraEyes look kind of scummy. Not sure on how much you guys have played though.
FOS (Finger of Suspicion) : Jacinto and Viscera. Ok this is the one and only time im going to use FOS...but i couldnt resist the first time. it's amusing to me in some way.
You guys look helpful but you're really not. Posts look a little forced. Jacinto looks a little better than Viscera.
I like Ace's posts. Some deep reasoning there. I guess your scumdar is just that good from all those games you played........ + Show Spoiler +On July 22 2011 11:23 DragonReborn422 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2011 11:11 VisceraEyes wrote:On July 22 2011 10:59 DragonReborn422 wrote:
Jacinto and VisceraEyes look kind of scummy. Not sure on how much you guys have played though.
FOS (Finger of Suspicion) : Jacinto and Viscera. Ok this is the one and only time im going to use FOS...but i couldnt resist the first time. it's amusing to me in some way.
You guys look helpful but you're really not. Posts look a little forced. Jacinto looks a little better than Viscera.
I like Ace's posts.  All right Dragon, then we dispense with the pleasantries. I'm trying to create a pro-town environment. Tell me how that's scummy if you please. Clearly you agree with lynching randomly as Ace does, and his non-answer to my question apparently doesn't bother you because you're in perfect agreement about who you'd lynch given the reins. So let me pose this question to you, because I KNOW Ace has an answer for me. What benefit does town get from lynching a random person? I'm not necessarily in favor of a random lynch. However, a random lynch has a solid success rate. Given that this is a game with a fair amount of beginners, it can be very easy for the mafia to direct the kills in this game. Again, a lot of this depends on how much you have played...but it looks like you have some experience. I think your posts look a little forced and look helpful to the casual eye but really isn't helpful. Objecting to a random lynch by saying we have a higher chance of finding a mafia sounds really nice in theory.... but honestly...i doubt the town has a higher than 25% of finding a mafia on day 1. Or not..... I guess your scumdar is pretty terrible then. Put that penis down, your not the best player in the world and acting like it is just making you look like a fool. Your pride and indecisiveness is just going to get you hanged.
Than this post which really put me against DR.
On July 23 2011 01:30 aprudds wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 01:24 DragonReborn422 wrote:
I'm not waving my e-penis around. It's annoying when peopel with 8 games played calls my idea stupid. I haven't called anyone's ideas or posts stupid. Your waving it again. I don't think you can even recognize it.
same kind of thing attacking DR without attacking his arguments.
##unvote
##vote aprudds
I would prefer to see aprudds lynched today but ace is a good target aswell
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@Pyo
+ Show Spoiler +On July 26 2011 07:16 Pyo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2011 00:13 Sevryn wrote:
Looking at Pyo's posts i think he is either scum or super lazy he has a large amount of useless posts and the abstaining from voting.
Ace seems to me to have come into this game with the attitude that town is boned and its all just a barrel of laughs which makes me think there is a good chance he is scum.
because there isn't that much to read off of Pyo im going to vote ace for now.
##Vote Ace Yeah, I guess I have been kind of lazy. Seeing town jump on a bandwagon like that day 1 was certainly demoralizing. I've also kind of bummed myself out of Arkham Asylum too. But I'll start contributing: If you look back at how the DR bandwagon developed, it all started with this post by Jacinto: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10420934I thought this was a perfectly reasonable "get the ball rolling" attack on DR. The case was weak, mostly just non-commital play. I figured DR would just brush it off and the case would be dropped, and I thought DR's post was perfectly reasonable: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10429554Palmar next throws in a few jabs at DR (typical in-your-face Palmar play), but he seems more occupied with RedFF, and even threw out a jab at me as well. VisceraEyes next jumps in: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10430096This vote almost feels like VE is reacting to the fact that he doesn't like DR for agreeing with/not being against Ace's plan. I'm not convinced that this is particularly scummy in that it feels a little too committal toward a brewing bandwagon. The next thing to crop up which really got the ball rolling was this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10430660Here aprudds throws out an ad-hom attack on DR. This is eerily reminiscent of how he managed to start a bandwagon against Freeloader in mafia XL. (For those that don't know, after role PMs went out, Freeloader asked whether mafia could PM each other despite the "no PMs" rule. aprudds brought this up as a scum slip and had the whole town distracted by it for all of day 1.) In this post aprudds is painting DR as an unlikable guy, sort of needlessly needling him/trolling him into acting scummier. And he continues to do it: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10430971However, appruds doesn't vote for DR right away. It really feels like aprudds is riling up the town making them dislike DR while not really committing to him. It is only after Palmar also votes for DR that you finally cast your vote. To me that seems really scummy and manipulative, just like he played in mafia XL. ##vote: aprudds
Your heavily basing your argument on your meta of me with a sample of 2 games, one of which I got lynched on the first day. Doesn't that seem a bit off to you?
DR's arrogance was quite annoying I felt the need to address it and have him tone down the ego a bit before it got out of control.
What made me think he was scum was not initially his posting style but his "list" and his responses afterwords. These lists are usually completely worthless this early in the game and if you recall mafia XL we had someone on the scum team make one to earn "town points." He was also very quick to express that his accusations were weak and constantly was trying to butter up ace.
+ Show Spoiler +On July 26 2011 07:20 Pyo wrote:
I'll also add that I highly doubt Ace is scum. He was literally the only one (I suppose besides myself) that took a stand against the DR lynch. DR flipping green kind of clears him in my mind. On July 26 2011 08:54 Pyo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2011 07:23 VisceraEyes wrote:
Pyo, could you point to the post(s) where Ace took a "stand" against the DR lynch? And why would that clear him in your mind? Scum would KNOW who's innocent and can manipulate town with that information by making a "stand" against a lynch that's bound to happen...but I don't even really see the post you're referring to. it was this one: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10443762and then this one: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=245159¤tpage=15#287I don't want to defend Ace too hard in case he really is mafia, but I'm inclined to take him at face value: a frustrated veteran mafia player who's throwing a tantrum because no one listened to him day 1 and are now trying to get him lynched.
Doesn't that sound eerily familiar to Mafia XL Pyo? You know......like a certain iGrok that game? Funny how you mention my play in that game but don't recall the actions of the GF that game. A bit of selective memory perhaps? Your hesistation in directly defending Ace is also quite interesting especially since in Mafia XL the scum team didn't want to directly defend iGrok too hard either.
@Sevryn
+ Show Spoiler +On July 26 2011 11:32 Sevryn wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2011 12:32 aprudds wrote:
And yes VisceraEyes, it does look like your making stuff up and putting them in people's mouths. It's quite annoying actually, and it hasn't even happened to me yet. Show nested quote +On July 22 2011 12:31 aprudds wrote:
So VisceraEyes if your so against random lynch what would be your alternative? Sit around and do nothing while scum picks us off at night? Can you provide a better option backed up with reasoning other then "NO THATS BAD!!!!!"? Show nested quote +On July 22 2011 12:46 aprudds wrote:On July 22 2011 12:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
Uh, aprudds...my suggestion was to scum-hunt...you know, play the game? Decide who's scummiest and lynch them? That's been my suggestion all along. When did I say 'NO THAT'S BAD!!!!'? It's not bad - I'll concede that it has about a 25% success rate. But I won't agree to it here because there's no need.
Ace just wants to. That's why it's being considered. Then go scum hunt. Why are you getting so worked up over something pointless? Do you honestly believe people will go for a random lynch if you have solid evidence against someone? I think you just have a bone to pick with ace and are trying to find any excuse to point at him. Tunnels VE for like 3 posts straightShow nested quote +On July 23 2011 01:11 aprudds wrote:Dragon for such a "EXPERIENCED PLAYER" your play has been less then stellar. Stuff like i probably have more games played than everyone here combined and probably at a higher level of play. Let's try to stay away from the mud-slinging ok? Makes me cry and laugh at the same time. You really seem to like waving your penis around eh? + Show Spoiler +On July 22 2011 10:10 DragonReborn422 wrote:
i was a heavy post counter for werewolf games on 2+2's puzzles and other games. I'm not sure if i will continue that trend on here for mafia games.
I'm sure i will have to adjust to the play style on here. I've mostly played "vanilla games" and not "mish-mash games" which have creative roles. I have probably 100 or so vanilla games played and about 10 mish-mash games played.
I remember the first time a bunch of us played a game on mafiascum and we got into a flame war with the forum just because the style of the game is so different between forums. I am fairly elitist and think my own style is very good, but I'm ok with taking a backseat and learning the ropes on a new forum.
I will post some reads soon.
I like your style of flexing your over 9000 games played. With that many games your reads must be super awesome as well! + Show Spoiler +On July 22 2011 10:59 DragonReborn422 wrote:
Jacinto and VisceraEyes look kind of scummy. Not sure on how much you guys have played though.
FOS (Finger of Suspicion) : Jacinto and Viscera. Ok this is the one and only time im going to use FOS...but i couldnt resist the first time. it's amusing to me in some way.
You guys look helpful but you're really not. Posts look a little forced. Jacinto looks a little better than Viscera.
I like Ace's posts. Some deep reasoning there. I guess your scumdar is just that good from all those games you played........ + Show Spoiler +On July 22 2011 11:23 DragonReborn422 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2011 11:11 VisceraEyes wrote:On July 22 2011 10:59 DragonReborn422 wrote:
Jacinto and VisceraEyes look kind of scummy. Not sure on how much you guys have played though.
FOS (Finger of Suspicion) : Jacinto and Viscera. Ok this is the one and only time im going to use FOS...but i couldnt resist the first time. it's amusing to me in some way.
You guys look helpful but you're really not. Posts look a little forced. Jacinto looks a little better than Viscera.
I like Ace's posts. All right Dragon, then we dispense with the pleasantries. I'm trying to create a pro-town environment. Tell me how that's scummy if you please. Clearly you agree with lynching randomly as Ace does, and his non-answer to my question apparently doesn't bother you because you're in perfect agreement about who you'd lynch given the reins. So let me pose this question to you, because I KNOW Ace has an answer for me. What benefit does town get from lynching a random person? I'm not necessarily in favor of a random lynch. However, a random lynch has a solid success rate. Given that this is a game with a fair amount of beginners, it can be very easy for the mafia to direct the kills in this game. Again, a lot of this depends on how much you have played...but it looks like you have some experience. I think your posts look a little forced and look helpful to the casual eye but really isn't helpful. Objecting to a random lynch by saying we have a higher chance of finding a mafia sounds really nice in theory.... but honestly...i doubt the town has a higher than 25% of finding a mafia on day 1. Or not..... I guess your scumdar is pretty terrible then. Put that penis down, your not the best player in the world and acting like it is just making you look like a fool. Your pride and indecisiveness is just going to get you hanged. Than this post which really put me against DR.Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 01:30 aprudds wrote:On July 23 2011 01:24 DragonReborn422 wrote:
I'm not waving my e-penis around. It's annoying when peopel with 8 games played calls my idea stupid. I haven't called anyone's ideas or posts stupid. Your waving it again. I don't think you can even recognize it. same kind of thing attacking DR without attacking his arguments.##unvote
##vote aprudds I would prefer to see aprudds lynched today but ace is a good target aswell
What the heck mate? You have a gigantic quote wall with no arguments at all?
Three posts on day one now counts as tunneling? What's your reasoning that these posts are scummy?
Your next 2 points doesn't make much sense. I told the guy to stop being so arrogant. If that put you against him that means that you agreed with my post.
Can you justify yourself a bit better? or can I just assume your just looking for an excuse to jump bandwagons?
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