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Imres
Profile Joined March 2011
515 Posts
June 13 2011 12:05 GMT
#2821
On June 13 2011 21:03 TheKefka wrote:
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On June 13 2011 21:01 Imres wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:59 Witten wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:56 Imres wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:55 dep_mil wrote:
BCs seem like a bad decision in practically any situation...


There good if you're the players with tanks. You need to lock the ground before going BC's they are just here to gain positions.


Slayers_Ryung vs ImMVP from the 2nd team league is the perfect example of when you should use BCs. You gain overwhelming air control while your opponent is like "I have 20 seige tanks and he has 8 how can I lose?" then you surprise them with like 6 BCs. You don't reveal your first 2 like Polt did against an opponent going mech terran.


Against this new mech style I think that bc's are useless, just go nukes in order to make him move. Cause the composition is hellions/tanks/VIKINGS, your opponent already has the production facilities to counter you. And don't do it on Xel Naga, Imo vs a mech like that just base trade like MKP would. A few tanks + rauders at the ramp of the main, and let's go


Nukes aren't going to do anything.Siege tank fire ranges the ghost that will fire the nuke and only thing you have to do is having a spare scan.


Nukes outside the siege tank range kills the 1st rank. You just get the 10ish tanks that prevent anything to kill your ghost, and let's go. It's actually the best way to fight tank lines imo, cause you've 2 supply in a ghost, not 80ish in vikings/bcs. At least at mid master lvl it works perfectly. Just to gain the positional advantage.
TYJ.Aoy
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil1265 Posts
June 13 2011 12:05 GMT
#2822
On June 13 2011 21:01 pdd wrote:
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On June 13 2011 20:59 Logo2010 wrote:
Seems like you only need to make 1 or 2 bcs then dump the rest of the resources into air dominance ie. vikings. Else the bcs will get kited all day long just like top did. Top maintained air dominance and as a result the bcs were nullified.

Vikings will target fire the BCs first though. But I think Polt handled it wrongly, cause he was trying to kite as well, when realistically he would have been better of just pushing forward as the BCs were going to die anyway.

Polt had the same number of vikings and an upgrade advantage, but the tech switch made no sense on Xel'Naga since he couldn't hold the ground against hellion harass and tanks which are too good on small maps.
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
June 13 2011 12:05 GMT
#2823
On June 13 2011 21:01 Imres wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 20:59 Witten wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:56 Imres wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:55 dep_mil wrote:
BCs seem like a bad decision in practically any situation...


There good if you're the players with tanks. You need to lock the ground before going BC's they are just here to gain positions.


Slayers_Ryung vs ImMVP from the 2nd team league is the perfect example of when you should use BCs. You gain overwhelming air control while your opponent is like "I have 20 seige tanks and he has 8 how can I lose?" then you surprise them with like 6 BCs. You don't reveal your first 2 like Polt did against an opponent going mech terran.


Against this new mech style I think that bc's are useless, just go nukes in order to make him move. Cause the composition is hellions/tanks/VIKINGS, your opponent already has the production facilities to counter you. And don't do it on Xel Naga, Imo vs a mech like that just base trade like MKP would. A few tanks + rauders at the ramp of the main, and let's go


I agree with BCs being bad vs. mech. Your opponent is using vikings to get vision and snipe medivacs anyways. I think Polt would have been fine if he stayed marauder and just put up a few starports incase TOP went BC Himself.
Brood War Forever / NA's premiere Shadow Shaman player / Courier Collector / Bot Game Champion / Highly amateur Mystical Ninja Goemon Speedrunner
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
June 13 2011 12:05 GMT
#2824
On June 13 2011 21:03 gogatorsfoster wrote:
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On June 13 2011 21:01 Jakkerr wrote:
This might be the worst Kpop in history


idk its decent. Not any worse than half of the crap most people in america listen to


American music is so terrible theses days >.<'
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 12:06:58
June 13 2011 12:06 GMT
#2825
Game 4 Start
Polt V TOP
Current score: 1-2
Map: Terminus RE
Polt at 7 o'clock
TOP at 10 o'clock
lalala
Imres
Profile Joined March 2011
515 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 12:07:16
June 13 2011 12:07 GMT
#2826
On June 13 2011 21:05 Witten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 21:01 Imres wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:59 Witten wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:56 Imres wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:55 dep_mil wrote:
BCs seem like a bad decision in practically any situation...


There good if you're the players with tanks. You need to lock the ground before going BC's they are just here to gain positions.


Slayers_Ryung vs ImMVP from the 2nd team league is the perfect example of when you should use BCs. You gain overwhelming air control while your opponent is like "I have 20 seige tanks and he has 8 how can I lose?" then you surprise them with like 6 BCs. You don't reveal your first 2 like Polt did against an opponent going mech terran.


Against this new mech style I think that bc's are useless, just go nukes in order to make him move. Cause the composition is hellions/tanks/VIKINGS, your opponent already has the production facilities to counter you. And don't do it on Xel Naga, Imo vs a mech like that just base trade like MKP would. A few tanks + rauders at the ramp of the main, and let's go


I agree with BCs being bad vs. mech. Your opponent is using vikings to get vision and snipe medivacs anyways. I think Polt would have been fine if he stayed marauder and just put up a few starports incase TOP went BC Himself.


Imo he lost the game when he did is tech switch while he killed like 12-15 tanks 1 minute before. If he has replenish asap in bio he could have taken the gold expo.
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
June 13 2011 12:07 GMT
#2827
Tasteless is talking about girls, he's ruining E-sports .
asperger
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1310 Posts
June 13 2011 12:07 GMT
#2828
On June 13 2011 21:07 Zane wrote:
Tasteless is talking about girls, he's ruining E-sports .

Artosis talking about weed, classin' it up!
Nestea | Puzzle | DongRaeGu | YongHwa
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
June 13 2011 12:07 GMT
#2829
On June 13 2011 21:04 superbabosheki wrote:
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On June 13 2011 20:58 Witten wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:56 superbabosheki wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:52 Witten wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:51 superbabosheki wrote:
Viking vs Viking is the boringest thing I've ever seen, not sure what you guys are talking about..


He kited the vikings and the BCs into his missile turrets. Very smart play by TOP

More like Polt attacked into missile turrets with BC's because they literally can't retreat. Nothing special.


Do you like anything? Vikings can retreat, and TOP used that to his advantage to bait his opponents vikings into his missile turrets. It's a very smart positional play.

I like waffles. Sorry I'll watch GSL games with a Diamond level point of view next time so everything amazes me. Here lemme try.

OMG HE KITED THE BATTLE CRUISERS AND VIKINGS INTO TURRETS!! ILL IGNORE THE FACT THAT THE BC'S HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO MOVE FORWARD SINCE THEY WERE DEAD EITHER WAY AND THAT THE ACCOMPANYING VIKINGS HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO STAY AND TAKE A FEW SHOTS SINCE THE BCS WERE FUCKED ANYWAYS

Great positional play


Wow you're so hateful. Sorry for enjoying something. Please stop trolling.
Brood War Forever / NA's premiere Shadow Shaman player / Courier Collector / Bot Game Champion / Highly amateur Mystical Ninja Goemon Speedrunner
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
June 13 2011 12:07 GMT
#2830
Awww mkp. Least he is going to get mobbed so badly at DH. People are gonna be all over him :D
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
June 13 2011 12:07 GMT
#2831
Haha. Dandelions, the creep tumours of the botanical world.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
June 13 2011 12:08 GMT
#2832
On June 13 2011 21:04 Happy Frog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 21:03 TheKefka wrote:
On June 13 2011 21:01 Imres wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:59 Witten wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:56 Imres wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:55 dep_mil wrote:
BCs seem like a bad decision in practically any situation...


There good if you're the players with tanks. You need to lock the ground before going BC's they are just here to gain positions.


Slayers_Ryung vs ImMVP from the 2nd team league is the perfect example of when you should use BCs. You gain overwhelming air control while your opponent is like "I have 20 seige tanks and he has 8 how can I lose?" then you surprise them with like 6 BCs. You don't reveal your first 2 like Polt did against an opponent going mech terran.


Against this new mech style I think that bc's are useless, just go nukes in order to make him move. Cause the composition is hellions/tanks/VIKINGS, your opponent already has the production facilities to counter you. And don't do it on Xel Naga, Imo vs a mech like that just base trade like MKP would. A few tanks + rauders at the ramp of the main, and let's go


Nukes aren't going to do anything.Siege tank fire ranges the ghost that will fire the nuke and only thing you have to do is having a spare scan.


You can actually place nukes in such a way that they 1 shot tanks while out of range

It's not that hard either if you know how to do it


Don't know i actually never seen someone do that.
I would imagine it isn't so good anyways because you would have to kill multiple tanks to be cost effective and i don't see that happening.
Cackle™
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3483 Posts
June 13 2011 12:08 GMT
#2833
Well, haters just got the shit trolled out of them...
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
June 13 2011 12:08 GMT
#2834
Fuck I LOVE Tasteless's troll voice.
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
June 13 2011 12:08 GMT
#2835
hahaha he lost his passion!
Do you really want chat rooms?
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 13 2011 12:08 GMT
#2836
On June 13 2011 21:06 youngminii wrote:
Game 4 Start
Polt V TOP
Current score: 1-2
Map: Terminus RE
Polt at 7 o'clock
TOP at 10 o'clock

3:30
Both players gasless, TOP making his CC at his natural, Polt making it inside his base.
lalala
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
June 13 2011 12:08 GMT
#2837
Haha Tasteless lost his passion! So funny when they bash the whiners .
Shalaiyn
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2735 Posts
June 13 2011 12:08 GMT
#2838
Tastosis not being professional! RUINING ESPORTS!
rfoster
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1005 Posts
June 13 2011 12:09 GMT
#2839
On June 13 2011 21:05 Pajegetc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 21:03 gogatorsfoster wrote:
On June 13 2011 21:01 Jakkerr wrote:
This might be the worst Kpop in history


idk its decent. Not any worse than half of the crap most people in america listen to


American music is so terrible theses days >.<'


What you dont like Kesha/ Lady gaga that pollutes our radio`s? :p
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
June 13 2011 12:09 GMT
#2840
I thought Tasteless doesn't read forums. Where is he getting these complaints from?
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