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wow those 2 helions ... ouch
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On June 13 2011 21:13 Kettchup wrote:
Not sure I like the mech build on Terminus. It's so easy to get dropped, Top is going to need some really nice defenses this game if it doesn't end early.
You can't get a a 5th base too.
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On June 13 2011 21:11 Imres wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 21:11 Kar98 wrote:On June 13 2011 21:10 Pajegetc wrote:On June 13 2011 21:09 gogatorsfoster wrote:On June 13 2011 21:05 Pajegetc wrote:On June 13 2011 21:03 gogatorsfoster wrote:On June 13 2011 21:01 Jakkerr wrote:
This might be the worst Kpop in history idk its decent. Not any worse than half of the crap most people in america listen to American music is so terrible theses days >.<' What you dont like Kesha/ Lady gaga that pollutes our radio`s? :p two words.. Justin Beiber. I'm still trying to figure out if his fans are real or part of the biggest troll ever pulled. He's just some kid, no idea why people hate him so much worst product by the music industry since... don't know but a long time :D
I just can't sleep at night.. so i 'pray' that i get my 'favorite girl' cause i need 'somebody to love' and she would 'love me' and i would call her 'baby' and oh when she smiles i smile 
stop hating hes a great singer.. a great artist if i may
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Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
Artosis loves top position.. wouldnt expect anything else!
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On June 13 2011 21:13 Eufouria wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 21:11 Kar98 wrote:On June 13 2011 21:10 Pajegetc wrote:On June 13 2011 21:09 gogatorsfoster wrote:On June 13 2011 21:05 Pajegetc wrote:On June 13 2011 21:03 gogatorsfoster wrote:On June 13 2011 21:01 Jakkerr wrote:
This might be the worst Kpop in history idk its decent. Not any worse than half of the crap most people in america listen to American music is so terrible theses days >.<' What you dont like Kesha/ Lady gaga that pollutes our radio`s? :p two words.. Justin Beiber. I'm still trying to figure out if his fans are real or part of the biggest troll ever pulled. He's just some kid, no idea why people hate him so much He represents everything that is bad about the western music industry. My life would be complete if I could punch him in the face.
I'm actually also curious as to why people hate him. I know nothing of him and would like to know why everyone hates him.
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On June 13 2011 21:13 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 21:11 youngminii wrote:On June 13 2011 21:09 youngminii wrote:On June 13 2011 21:08 youngminii wrote:On June 13 2011 21:06 youngminii wrote:Game 4 StartPolt V TOPCurrent score: 1-2 Map: Terminus RE  Polt at 7 o'clock TOP at 10 o'clock 3:30Both players gasless, TOP making his CC at his natural, Polt making it inside his base. 5:00Double gas for both players now. Another Barracks going down for Polt. Both players start a Factory. 7:00As both players get their expansions up and running, Polt goes cloaked Banshees and TOP goes Blue Flame Hellions with Vikings. An Engineering Bay going up for both players too. 9:30The Banshee doing as much damage as it can. TOP takes it out with Vikings and a scan. He also tries to do some damage with his Hellions but has to retreat.
11:00
Polt loses another Banshee to the Vikings and a scan. TOP drops 4 Hellions and kills a lot of SCVs.
37 SCVs for Polt against 51 for TOP.
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TOP outclassing Polt pretty hard.
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wow Polt is playing terribly, how do you leave your base naked when you already know he's gona drop blue flame nonstop ?
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seems like top does this almost every game and noone is good enough at defending against it. Hellion drops, or just marines sometimes, over and over again and soon enough he gets in some great shots and is greatly ahead.
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On June 13 2011 21:10 Imres wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 21:08 TheKefka wrote:On June 13 2011 21:04 Happy Frog wrote:On June 13 2011 21:03 TheKefka wrote:On June 13 2011 21:01 Imres wrote:On June 13 2011 20:59 Witten wrote:On June 13 2011 20:56 Imres wrote:On June 13 2011 20:55 dep_mil wrote:
BCs seem like a bad decision in practically any situation... There good if you're the players with tanks. You need to lock the ground before going BC's they are just here to gain positions. Slayers_Ryung vs ImMVP from the 2nd team league is the perfect example of when you should use BCs. You gain overwhelming air control while your opponent is like "I have 20 seige tanks and he has 8 how can I lose?" then you surprise them with like 6 BCs. You don't reveal your first 2 like Polt did against an opponent going mech terran. Against this new mech style I think that bc's are useless, just go nukes in order to make him move. Cause the composition is hellions/tanks/VIKINGS, your opponent already has the production facilities to counter you. And don't do it on Xel Naga, Imo vs a mech like that just base trade like MKP would. A few tanks + rauders at the ramp of the main, and let's go Nukes aren't going to do anything.Siege tank fire ranges the ghost that will fire the nuke and only thing you have to do is having a spare scan. You can actually place nukes in such a way that they 1 shot tanks while out of range It's not that hard either if you know how to do it Don't know i actually never seen someone do that. I would imagine it isn't so good anyways because you would have to kill multiple tanks to be cost effective and i don't see that happening. 1nuke for a tank is cost effective. And position has an enormous value when you're max in tvt. Imo the problem is that you've to figure out how to exploit this perfectly if you want to be able to move forward with your nuke.
Hmmm,I don't know.
I still don't think it a reliable tactic.Actually when i think about it TLO used to do that but from what i remember he would get shot down 2/3 of the time.
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Polt fucked up so sadly 
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On June 13 2011 21:14 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 21:13 youngminii wrote:On June 13 2011 21:11 youngminii wrote:On June 13 2011 21:09 youngminii wrote:On June 13 2011 21:08 youngminii wrote:On June 13 2011 21:06 youngminii wrote:Game 4 StartPolt V TOPCurrent score: 1-2 Map: Terminus RE Polt at 7 o'clock TOP at 10 o'clock 3:30Both players gasless, TOP making his CC at his natural, Polt making it inside his base. 5:00Double gas for both players now. Another Barracks going down for Polt. Both players start a Factory. 7:00As both players get their expansions up and running, Polt goes cloaked Banshees and TOP goes Blue Flame Hellions with Vikings. An Engineering Bay going up for both players too. 9:30The Banshee doing as much damage as it can. TOP takes it out with Vikings and a scan. He also tries to do some damage with his Hellions but has to retreat. 11:00Polt loses another Banshee to the Vikings and a scan. TOP drops 4 Hellions and kills a lot of SCVs. 37 SCVs for Polt against 51 for TOP.
12:30
After a second failed Hellion drop, TOP starts an armory and is making a 3rd. All his Hellions get caught off guard by Polt's Marauders.
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On June 13 2011 21:14 Beyonder wrote:
Artosis loves top position.. wouldnt expect anything else!
Derp
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On June 13 2011 21:10 Pajegetc wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 21:09 gogatorsfoster wrote:On June 13 2011 21:05 Pajegetc wrote:On June 13 2011 21:03 gogatorsfoster wrote:On June 13 2011 21:01 Jakkerr wrote:
This might be the worst Kpop in history idk its decent. Not any worse than half of the crap most people in america listen to American music is so terrible theses days >.<' What you dont like Kesha/ Lady gaga that pollutes our radio`s? :p two words.. Justin Beiber. I'm still trying to figure out if his fans are real or part of the biggest troll ever pulled.
rofl touche
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Polt is seerrriiouussly vulnerable to these blue flame drops...
If polt somehow gets to the finals, MMA can probably just BFH him four games in a row....
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On June 13 2011 21:08 TheKefka wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 21:04 Happy Frog wrote:On June 13 2011 21:03 TheKefka wrote:On June 13 2011 21:01 Imres wrote:On June 13 2011 20:59 Witten wrote:On June 13 2011 20:56 Imres wrote:On June 13 2011 20:55 dep_mil wrote:
BCs seem like a bad decision in practically any situation... There good if you're the players with tanks. You need to lock the ground before going BC's they are just here to gain positions. Slayers_Ryung vs ImMVP from the 2nd team league is the perfect example of when you should use BCs. You gain overwhelming air control while your opponent is like "I have 20 seige tanks and he has 8 how can I lose?" then you surprise them with like 6 BCs. You don't reveal your first 2 like Polt did against an opponent going mech terran. Against this new mech style I think that bc's are useless, just go nukes in order to make him move. Cause the composition is hellions/tanks/VIKINGS, your opponent already has the production facilities to counter you. And don't do it on Xel Naga, Imo vs a mech like that just base trade like MKP would. A few tanks + rauders at the ramp of the main, and let's go Nukes aren't going to do anything.Siege tank fire ranges the ghost that will fire the nuke and only thing you have to do is having a spare scan. You can actually place nukes in such a way that they 1 shot tanks while out of range It's not that hard either if you know how to do it Don't know i actually never seen someone do that. I would imagine it isn't so good anyways because you would have to kill multiple tanks to be cost effective and i don't see that happening.
Ghost + Nuke = 200 gas
Tank = 125 gas
So you really don't need to kill very much to be cost neutral especially if you can keep the ghosts alive
If you include the ability to force a reposition I think it can easily be cost effective, but it's relatively unexplored and we won't really know till we see someone do it well in a televised match.
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On June 13 2011 21:15 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 21:14 youngminii wrote:On June 13 2011 21:13 youngminii wrote:On June 13 2011 21:11 youngminii wrote:On June 13 2011 21:09 youngminii wrote:On June 13 2011 21:08 youngminii wrote:On June 13 2011 21:06 youngminii wrote:Game 4 StartPolt V TOPCurrent score: 1-2 Map: Terminus RE Polt at 7 o'clock TOP at 10 o'clock 3:30Both players gasless, TOP making his CC at his natural, Polt making it inside his base. 5:00Double gas for both players now. Another Barracks going down for Polt. Both players start a Factory. 7:00As both players get their expansions up and running, Polt goes cloaked Banshees and TOP goes Blue Flame Hellions with Vikings. An Engineering Bay going up for both players too. 9:30The Banshee doing as much damage as it can. TOP takes it out with Vikings and a scan. He also tries to do some damage with his Hellions but has to retreat. 11:00Polt loses another Banshee to the Vikings and a scan. TOP drops 4 Hellions and kills a lot of SCVs. 37 SCVs for Polt against 51 for TOP. 12:30After a second failed Hellion drop, TOP starts an armory and is making a 3rd. All his Hellions get caught off guard by Polt's Marauders.
14:00
More Hellions trying to do damage in Polt's natural but they get killed off, Polt has his army at the middle watchtower right outside TOP's base. His army is a lot stronger than TOP's right now.
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On June 13 2011 21:14 ItsMeDomLee wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 21:13 Eufouria wrote:On June 13 2011 21:11 Kar98 wrote:On June 13 2011 21:10 Pajegetc wrote:On June 13 2011 21:09 gogatorsfoster wrote:On June 13 2011 21:05 Pajegetc wrote:On June 13 2011 21:03 gogatorsfoster wrote:On June 13 2011 21:01 Jakkerr wrote:
This might be the worst Kpop in history idk its decent. Not any worse than half of the crap most people in america listen to American music is so terrible theses days >.<' What you dont like Kesha/ Lady gaga that pollutes our radio`s? :p two words.. Justin Beiber. I'm still trying to figure out if his fans are real or part of the biggest troll ever pulled. He's just some kid, no idea why people hate him so much He represents everything that is bad about the western music industry. My life would be complete if I could punch him in the face. I'm actually also curious as to why people hate him. I know nothing of him and would like to know why everyone hates him.
His music is pretty bad. But most people just hate him cause he's a pretty boy who girls are obsessed with. From what I've heard he's actually a pretty nice kid. Hey, Tyler the Creator is a fan.
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