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huehuehuehue
Estonia455 Posts
 . So i will keep playing SC2.Imo BW PvZ/P and ZvZ is way better, in SC2 for me TvT and TvZ are really good matchups to watch imo. PvZ in SC2 is just terrible to watch . I can understand BW fans being mad at SC2 fans(I remember me being the same with CS 1.6 vs CSS lol), but try to look at things from their perspective.. | ||
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jpak
United States5045 Posts
Fuck ESPORTS. | ||
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Aunvilgod
2653 Posts
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e_i_pi_1_0
933 Posts
On April 17 2012 06:09 Aunvilgod wrote: Wasn´t there some thread yesterday with even more rumors? Why did it get deleted? It was closed. | ||
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RageCommodore
Germany912 Posts
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xBillehx
United States1289 Posts
On April 17 2012 06:09 Aunvilgod wrote: Wasn´t there some thread yesterday with even more rumors? Why did it get deleted? Closed. Unfortunately all the latest info on this whole ordeal is now hidden in the 100 pages of "my game is better than your game" shit. I'll quote my post from earlier as I also think the OP should be updated since we're being restricted to this thread for the latest sources. On April 16 2012 22:42 xBillehx wrote: Since the other thread was closed, could we maybe have the OP updated so people don't have to wade through 90 pages of "my game is better than your game" arguments to find the interviews and translations of the most recent articles? For instance, the Team 8 coach's interview here, (Summarized by rotinegg here) The Fomos and DES/MBCplus mirror, (Summarized by white_horse here and here) and the newest article the now closed thread was based on here. | ||
rotinegg
United States1719 Posts
On April 16 2012 22:42 xBillehx wrote: and the newest article the now closed thread was based on here. Short summary: -SK Planet Proleague to begin this May, will be able to see BW players try out their SC2 hands. -SC2 implementation was possible due to blizzard's persuasion and Gretech conceding its exclusive contract. -No official announcements, but progamers practicing sc2 atm. One affiliated staff said: "Next year, PL is projected to switch over to SC2 completely." -How the mixed league will be run is still under discussion, but the most plausible theory is switching between each set, with the ace match being BW in all cases. -It seems Kespa will be forcing the integration by disallowing the player from playing two consecutive matches of the same game [So players like Jaedong Flash Bisu Stork won't be able to crush noobs in BW all day; they will have to play SC2 in half of their matches.] -All Kespa-run proteams have agreed not to bring in any current SC2 progamers under Gretech for a year. -SC2 is evaluated as being less fun to spectate as an e-sport than SC1, so Kespa and the proteams must provide a solution to this problem to ensure the success of the next season of PL. [I know this will be a controversial statement, so I will include the source in its original form, and other translators can confirm my translation. + Show Spoiler + 특히 스타2가 스타1보다 e스포츠로서의 재미가 덜하다는 평가를 받고 있어 협회와 게임단은 시즌2에서 흥행공식을 도출하는 과제를 풀어야 한다. The rest of the article was just analysis without facts so I ignored it. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On April 17 2012 06:39 rotinegg wrote: Short summary: -SK Planet Proleague to begin this May, will be able to see BW players try out their SC2 hands. -SC2 implementation was possible due to blizzard's persuasion and Gretech conceding its exclusive contract. -No official announcements, but progamers practicing sc2 atm. One affiliated staff said: "Next year, PL is projected to switch over to SC2 completely." -How the mixed league will be run is still under discussion, but the most plausible theory is switching between each set, with the ace match being BW in all cases. -It seems Kespa will be forcing the integration by disallowing the player from playing two consecutive matches of the same game [So players like Jaedong Flash Bisu Stork won't be able to crush noobs in BW all day; they will have to play SC2 in half of their matches.] -All Kespa-run proteams have agreed not to bring in any current SC2 progamers under Gretech for a year. -The general consensus is that SC2 is less fun to spectate as an e-sport than SC1, so Kespa and the proteams must provide a solution to ensure the success of the next season of PL. [I know this will be a controversial statement, so I will include the source in its original form, and other translators can confirm my translation. + Show Spoiler + 특히 스타2가 스타1보다 e스포츠로서의 재미가 덜하다는 평가를 받고 있어 협회와 게임단은 시즌2에서 흥행공식을 도출하는 과제를 풀어야 한다. The rest of the article was just analysis without facts so I ignored it. Some actual relevant ( and new ) information, thank you. | ||
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e_i_pi_1_0
933 Posts
On April 17 2012 06:39 rotinegg wrote: -It seems Kespa will be forcing the integration by disallowing the player from playing two consecutive matches of the same game [So players like Jaedong Flash Bisu Stork won't be able to crush noobs in BW all day; they will have to play SC2 in half of their matches.] You're kidding me, right? How did they come up with this idea... | ||
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borlee
Liechtenstein246 Posts
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rotinegg
United States1719 Posts
On April 17 2012 06:42 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote: You're kidding me, right? How did they come up with this idea... the same way the shitheads that came up with the idea of running a league of both games in the first place did | ||
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Scribble
2077 Posts
On April 17 2012 06:39 rotinegg wrote: -It seems Kespa will be forcing the integration by disallowing the player from playing two consecutive matches of the same game [So players like Jaedong Flash Bisu Stork won't be able to crush noobs in BW all day; they will have to play SC2 in half of their matches.] I don't know how I missed this earlier. As curious as I am, this sounds like a terrible idea - not that the alternating sets thing won't already make for lower quality BW and SC2 sets. | ||
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elagrion
Ukraine422 Posts
On April 17 2012 06:39 rotinegg wrote: + Show Spoiler + Short summary: -SK Planet Proleague to begin this May, will be able to see BW players try out their SC2 hands. -SC2 implementation was possible due to blizzard's persuasion and Gretech conceding its exclusive contract. -No official announcements, but progamers practicing sc2 atm. One affiliated staff said: "Next year, PL is projected to switch over to SC2 completely." -How the mixed league will be run is still under discussion, but the most plausible theory is switching between each set, with the ace match being BW in all cases. -It seems Kespa will be forcing the integration by disallowing the player from playing two consecutive matches of the same game [So players like Jaedong Flash Bisu Stork won't be able to crush noobs in BW all day; they will have to play SC2 in half of their matches.] -All Kespa-run proteams have agreed not to bring in any current SC2 progamers under Gretech for a year. -SC2 is evaluated as being less fun to spectate as an e-sport than SC1, so Kespa and the proteams must provide a solution to this problem to ensure the success of the next season of PL. [I know this will be a controversial statement, so I will include the source in its original form, and other translators can confirm my translation. + Show Spoiler + 특히 스타2가 스타1보다 e스포츠로서의 재미가 덜하다는 평가를 받고 있어 협회와 게임단은 시즌2에서 흥행공식을 도출하는 과제를 풀어야 한다. The rest of the article was just analysis without facts so I ignored it. If it is a general thought that sc2 is worth for viewership, why to do the freaking switch? | ||
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HigoSeco
Chile232 Posts
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huehuehuehue
Estonia455 Posts
On April 17 2012 06:45 elagrion wrote: If it is a general thought that sc2 is worth for viewership, why to do the freaking switch? Because they can't find sponsors for BW, OSL is still without an sponsor? | ||
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elagrion
Ukraine422 Posts
On April 17 2012 06:46 huehuehuehue wrote: Because they can't find sponsors for BW, OSL is still without an sponsor? Ok, next question, how badly sponsors brains need to be damaged, if they willing to sponsor game that less attractive for viewers? U know, for sponsor viewers equals ROI. | ||
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huehuehuehue
Estonia455 Posts
On April 17 2012 06:49 elagrion wrote: Ok, next question, how badly sponsors brains need to be damaged, if they willing to sponsor game that less attractive for viewers? U know, for sponsor viewers equals ROI. It's way more attractive for sponsors because of the foreign viewers, so foreign sponsorship is a possibility and also Korean companys that also do business outside of Korea. | ||
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e_i_pi_1_0
933 Posts
On April 17 2012 06:42 rotinegg wrote: the same way the shitheads that came up with the idea of running a league of both games in the first place did Another question: in your summary, you mentioned SC2 implementation being possible due to Blizzard's persuasion. Are there any details on Blizzard's role in this? | ||
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rotinegg
United States1719 Posts
On April 17 2012 06:51 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote: Another question: in your summary, you mentioned SC2 implementation being possible due to Blizzard's persuasion. Are there any details on Blizzard's role in this? nope, sorry, literally just says "blizzard's persuasion" | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On April 17 2012 06:44 Scribble wrote: I don't know how I missed this earlier. As curious as I am, this sounds like a terrible idea - not that the alternating sets thing won't already make for lower quality BW and SC2 sets. I know right, wtf is this? I am really disappointed at how Kespa is handling the thing. You know, they should just let the teams absorbs the pre-existing SC2 teams in Korea, keep the two games separated, allow Gom TV to broadcast Brood War so we can hear Tastosis once again doing their thing from the golden days. SC2 fans get to be happy because their games are being exposed to the masses in Korea, BW fans are happy because we got ourselves the Archon back! Everybody fucking wins! | ||
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