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On January 30 2012 07:28 jamesr12 wrote:
Tips for the skinny guys:
- Avoid V-necks go crew neck instead. V- Necks they expose skinny features in the neck and collar bone
-Layers are good
- Thicker fabrics are good, like knitted wool instead of cashmere. Cords opposed to chions.
- Wear spread opposed to pointed collars. 90% collars are some variation of pointed, you want spread it will give the appearance of a wider face.
- Try SMALL shoulder pads in blazers and suit jackets. Don't go crazy here though.
- Tailor Tailor Tailor
Eh a lot of these are more trouble than they're worth. The only one I would actually suggest you go through with is the crew neck as opposed to v-neck. I'm pretty thin, but I see nothing wrong with wearing fitted clothes such as t-shirts or shorts because I'm comfortable the way I am. You can't hide the fact that you're thin, and for the love of god please don't wear baggy clothing to try and hide your figure. You'll be swimming in it. Most girls don't mind if you're slim (within reason).
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I really don't think it is much work at all most of it just comes down to buying clothes that fit your body shape. Once you have the clothes it is no more work then wearing any other clothes
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On January 30 2012 19:50 Motivate wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 07:28 jamesr12 wrote:
Tips for the skinny guys:
- Avoid V-necks go crew neck instead. V- Necks they expose skinny features in the neck and collar bone
-Layers are good
- Thicker fabrics are good, like knitted wool instead of cashmere. Cords opposed to chions.
- Wear spread opposed to pointed collars. 90% collars are some variation of pointed, you want spread it will give the appearance of a wider face.
- Try SMALL shoulder pads in blazers and suit jackets. Don't go crazy here though.
- Tailor Tailor Tailor
Eh a lot of these are more trouble than they're worth. The only one I would actually suggest you go through with is the crew neck as opposed to v-neck. I'm pretty thin, but I see nothing wrong with wearing fitted clothes such as t-shirts or shorts because I'm comfortable the way I am. You can't hide the fact that you're thin, and for the love of god please don't wear baggy clothing to try and hide your figure. You'll be swimming in it. Most girls don't mind if you're slim (within reason).
but Korean girls love collarbones. need V-neck to show'em.
well, at least IU likes guys with a nice collarbone
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On January 30 2012 03:11 jamesr12 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 02:08 GrayArea wrote:
Yea, thanks for all the suggestions on the oxford cap toe shoes. I just have to find one in my price range now. I need black shoes to go with my black suit that I am going to be getting. Hold up. Stop. Why are you getting a black suit?
I have some interviews for professional school coming up, so I need a standard black suit.
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On January 31 2012 06:17 GrayArea wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 03:11 jamesr12 wrote:On January 30 2012 02:08 GrayArea wrote:
Yea, thanks for all the suggestions on the oxford cap toe shoes. I just have to find one in my price range now. I need black shoes to go with my black suit that I am going to be getting. Hold up. Stop. Why are you getting a black suit? I have some interviews for professional school coming up, so I need a standard black suit.
Interview? Or a funeral?
Do yourself a favor and buy a navy or charcoal suit instead. Leave the black suits to dead people...and the Yakuza.
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On January 31 2012 06:17 GrayArea wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 03:11 jamesr12 wrote:On January 30 2012 02:08 GrayArea wrote:
Yea, thanks for all the suggestions on the oxford cap toe shoes. I just have to find one in my price range now. I need black shoes to go with my black suit that I am going to be getting. Hold up. Stop. Why are you getting a black suit? I have some interviews for professional school coming up, so I need a standard black suit.
Yeah, definitely do not get a black suit. I wear suits all of the time professionally (and am in environments where people wear suits), and no one wears straight black. Charcoal and navy blue suits are much better if you want a solid color.
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On January 31 2012 06:26 matiK23 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 06:17 GrayArea wrote:On January 30 2012 03:11 jamesr12 wrote:On January 30 2012 02:08 GrayArea wrote:
Yea, thanks for all the suggestions on the oxford cap toe shoes. I just have to find one in my price range now. I need black shoes to go with my black suit that I am going to be getting. Hold up. Stop. Why are you getting a black suit? I have some interviews for professional school coming up, so I need a standard black suit. Interview? Or a funeral? Do yourself a favor and buy a navy or charcoal suit instead. Leave the black suits to dead people...and the Yakuza.
It's my first and probably only suit that I am going to buy for a long time. I only will wear it on formal occasions like interviews or special events. Therefore, I want the only suit I am going to have to be as standard and multifunctional as possible. I am going to get a black, two buttoned suit which will be tailored to fit me well.
Also, to go back to shoes, I really really like black shoes that are super shiny. The more shiny they are, the nicer they look. Unfortunately, a lot of the black dress shoes that I am looking at are just normal black (almost dull) which make them look less professional than the shiny ones. Is this true? I should be picking the shiny black shoes right?
I'm just looking at different styles, but what do you guys think of these options?
1) http://www.dsw.com/shoe/aston grey connelly leather oxford?prodId=207612&category=dsw4cat70004
2) http://www.dsw.com/shoe/stacy adams luxury leather cap toe oxford?prodId=192135&category=dsw4cat70004
3) http://www.dsw.com/shoe/florsheim kingston patent oxford?prodId=244975&category=dsw4cat70004
I'm supposed to be getting an oxford toe shoe right? Or does any round toe shoe work?
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On January 31 2012 06:35 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 06:17 GrayArea wrote:On January 30 2012 03:11 jamesr12 wrote:On January 30 2012 02:08 GrayArea wrote:
Yea, thanks for all the suggestions on the oxford cap toe shoes. I just have to find one in my price range now. I need black shoes to go with my black suit that I am going to be getting. Hold up. Stop. Why are you getting a black suit? I have some interviews for professional school coming up, so I need a standard black suit. Yeah, definitely do not get a black suit. I wear suits all of the time professionally (and am in environments where people wear suits), and no one wears straight black. Charcoal and navy blue suits are much better if you want a solid color.
For an interview, I don't think a black suit is inappropriate. Black is the standard color right?
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On January 29 2012 15:28 VManOfMana wrote:
For office clothes, how is a store like Men's Warehouse?
Also, I tend to like Bostonian, Clarks and Florsheim shoes. Opinions?
Men's Wearhouse is okay, but not great. You probably would do better at Joseph A Banks for the money. I generally prefer department stores. In particular, Dillard's has some excellent suits (Hart Shaffner Marx, Daniel Cremieux) at very low prices. If money is no object, then just bite the bullet and hit something like a Nordstrom's or Nieman Marcus.
Alternatively, and if you know your size, you can order your suits online and then get them tailored locally.
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On January 31 2012 06:42 GrayArea wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 06:35 xDaunt wrote:On January 31 2012 06:17 GrayArea wrote:On January 30 2012 03:11 jamesr12 wrote:On January 30 2012 02:08 GrayArea wrote:
Yea, thanks for all the suggestions on the oxford cap toe shoes. I just have to find one in my price range now. I need black shoes to go with my black suit that I am going to be getting. Hold up. Stop. Why are you getting a black suit? I have some interviews for professional school coming up, so I need a standard black suit. Yeah, definitely do not get a black suit. I wear suits all of the time professionally (and am in environments where people wear suits), and no one wears straight black. Charcoal and navy blue suits are much better if you want a solid color. For an interview, I don't think a black suit is inappropriate. Black is the standard color right?
It could be better just going with a grey/navy-blue suit as well, as long as you're wearing formal attire I don't think color stands in the way.
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On January 31 2012 06:42 GrayArea wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 06:35 xDaunt wrote:On January 31 2012 06:17 GrayArea wrote:On January 30 2012 03:11 jamesr12 wrote:On January 30 2012 02:08 GrayArea wrote:
Yea, thanks for all the suggestions on the oxford cap toe shoes. I just have to find one in my price range now. I need black shoes to go with my black suit that I am going to be getting. Hold up. Stop. Why are you getting a black suit? I have some interviews for professional school coming up, so I need a standard black suit. Yeah, definitely do not get a black suit. I wear suits all of the time professionally (and am in environments where people wear suits), and no one wears straight black. Charcoal and navy blue suits are much better if you want a solid color. For an interview, I don't think a black suit is inappropriate. Black is the standard color right?
Nah usually solid black looks a bit weird. Generally go for charcoal, grey, navy, etc. or some lighter black color.
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On January 31 2012 06:42 GrayArea wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 06:35 xDaunt wrote:On January 31 2012 06:17 GrayArea wrote:On January 30 2012 03:11 jamesr12 wrote:On January 30 2012 02:08 GrayArea wrote:
Yea, thanks for all the suggestions on the oxford cap toe shoes. I just have to find one in my price range now. I need black shoes to go with my black suit that I am going to be getting. Hold up. Stop. Why are you getting a black suit? I have some interviews for professional school coming up, so I need a standard black suit. Yeah, definitely do not get a black suit. I wear suits all of the time professionally (and am in environments where people wear suits), and no one wears straight black. Charcoal and navy blue suits are much better if you want a solid color. For an interview, I don't think a black suit is inappropriate. Black is the standard color right?
The problem is not that black is inappropriate. The problem is what wearing a black suit to an interview says about you personally. It'll make you look stiff and unimaginative. It'll also look odd. You just have to trust me on this.
Also, please do not get a cheap, boring tie. Always, always, always get good ties with interesting patterns. Make yourself stand out. Don't look like all of the other schlubs wearing the same one- or two-toned ties. If you have a Nordstrom's Rack near you, go there for your tie shopping. You can get excellent ties that usually cost $100+ for $15-25.
Here are the basic rules for color coordinating ties and suits: make sure that every color that appears in your suit and on your shirt (presuming that you're wearing a non-white shirt) also appears on your tie. Your tie can also have an additional colors as long as they do not clash with everything else. For example, if you have a dark blue suit and a light blue shirt, you can wear a tie that has a lot of blues with accents of purples and reds in it. If the tie has a little bit of blue but screams out with oranges and yellows, you may have a problem. To avoid other complications, generally don't wear pinstripe suits with pinstripe shirts (unless you're Deion Sanders), and do not wear "busy" ties (ties with lots of patterns) if your shirt and suit are both busy.
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Oh, regarding footwear. If you really want to be a pimp, get a good pair of dressy cowboy boots. Get a semi-exotic leather like full-quill ostrich or some lizard. They'll cost you anywhere from $250-400+ (all the way up to 4 digits if you really want), which is about the same as a good pair of Italian leather shoes. However, they're far sharper, far more comfortable, and incredibly versatile. I got a good pair of boots for the first time last November, and they've quickly become my favorite piece of footwear, regardless of whether I'm wearing jeans or a suit. And for you single guys, trust me -- women notice these boots.
Also, don't let the price scare you off. The good thing about buying nice leather shoes or boots is that they basically last forever if you take care of them. Polish them now and then to keep the leather up. When the sole wears out, just take them to a cobbler and they'll be like new again. It's a fantastic investment.
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Ann Demeulemeester and Boris Bidjan Saberi all the way! And hi SZers! ^^
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On January 31 2012 06:41 GrayArea wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 06:26 matiK23 wrote:On January 31 2012 06:17 GrayArea wrote:On January 30 2012 03:11 jamesr12 wrote:On January 30 2012 02:08 GrayArea wrote:
Yea, thanks for all the suggestions on the oxford cap toe shoes. I just have to find one in my price range now. I need black shoes to go with my black suit that I am going to be getting. Hold up. Stop. Why are you getting a black suit? I have some interviews for professional school coming up, so I need a standard black suit. Interview? Or a funeral? Do yourself a favor and buy a navy or charcoal suit instead. Leave the black suits to dead people...and the Yakuza. It's my first and probably only suit that I am going to buy for a long time. I only will wear it on formal occasions like interviews or special events. Therefore, I want the only suit I am going to have to be as standard and multifunctional as possible. I am going to get a black, two buttoned suit which will be tailored to fit me well. Also, to go back to shoes, I really really like black shoes that are super shiny. The more shiny they are, the nicer they look. Unfortunately, a lot of the black dress shoes that I am looking at are just normal black (almost dull) which make them look less professional than the shiny ones. Is this true? I should be picking the shiny black shoes right? I'm just looking at different styles, but what do you guys think of these options? 1) http://www.dsw.com/shoe/aston grey connelly leather oxford?prodId=207612&category=dsw4cat700042) http://www.dsw.com/shoe/stacy adams luxury leather cap toe oxford?prodId=192135&category=dsw4cat700043) http://www.dsw.com/shoe/florsheim kingston patent oxford?prodId=244975&category=dsw4cat70004I'm supposed to be getting an oxford toe shoe right? Or does any round toe shoe work?
Oxford does not refer to the toe, it refers to how the laces are attached to the shoe. Oxfords are simply a slit on the top of the shoe, while the other kind of shoe, a derby or blucher, have flaps attached that hold the laces. The first two links you have are not oxfords, while the last one is.
Now on to advice.
Don't get a black suit. It's too formal. Everyone has a black suit, and everyone wears them for everything. They look like they are for weddings and funerals however. Get a charcoal or navy suit, they are formal enough but look better and work with many more colors than a black suit.
Now, if you aren't getting a black suit because of my prior advice, don't get black shoes.
Black shoes only work with black suits, and they are too formal. You want brown shoes. A good pair of brown shoes will last you decades and work with anything from suits to jeans and an oxford shirt.
The kind of shoes you want will look something like these
http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/producti_SF270_1_40000000001_-1
http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/producti_SF5705_1_40000000001_-1
http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/producti_SF6105_1_40000000001_-1
although you might want something less expensive.
Look for something from Florsheim, but don't be afraid to spend more money. A good pair of shoes will last you soooo long.
On January 31 2012 06:43 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 15:28 VManOfMana wrote:
For office clothes, how is a store like Men's Warehouse?
Also, I tend to like Bostonian, Clarks and Florsheim shoes. Opinions? Men's Wearhouse is okay, but not great. You probably would do better at Joseph A Banks for the money. I generally prefer department stores. In particular, Dillard's has some excellent suits (Hart Shaffner Marx, Daniel Cremieux) at very low prices. If money is no object, then just bite the bullet and hit something like a Nordstrom's or Nieman Marcus. Alternatively, and if you know your size, you can order your suits online and then get them tailored locally.
Men's Wearhouse blows. It's not okay.
They markup suits then sell them as "buy 1 get one for xx", but really that's because you're buying the first suit for 2x what it's supposed to be.
The suits have unflattering boxy cuts, and the fabrics are decent at best. Their tailoring and the knowledge of the people working at the stores are despicable however. They will fit you for a shitty suit, then tailoring it to look even worse. One thing in particular is THEY FUCKING USE GLUE TO PLEAT YOUR PANTS. Seriously, don't go to Men's Wearhouse.
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If you are getting one and only one suit personally I would go for a classic plain 2 button mid to dark charcoal suit. If you are only getting one suit I would avoid pinstripes or 3 button, double breasted, or any other unique features. You could go with navy following the same guidelines, but personally I like charcoal more. A charcoal suit is perfect for interviewing, while a black suit is overly formal. This is a very common mistake with younger people, therefore avoiding it will make you seem more mature then many of your peers. A charcoal suit will also be perfectly suitable for anything from a wedding to funeral as well.
As far as shoes go, if you are just going to shoes to go with the suit, I don't see anything wrong with black if that is what you like, and makes you feel more confident and professional. Although personally I would go brown just because they are more versatile and can be dressed down more easily with jeans and chinos, but if you are only going to wear them with the suit then black is fine.
As far as the shine, it is very hard to tell from pictures but if you have leather shoes and apply some good shine and a little elbow grease you should be able to make it nice and shiny. Of the shoes you posted I like the last ones the most.
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A serious question:
How the hell do I get sweat stains out of the neck and armpit regions of a white dress shirt?
I live in humid-as-fuck south Texas and every one of my white dress shirts seems to get ruined within a month's time.
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On January 31 2012 07:49 SoLaR[i.C] wrote:
A serious question:
How the hell do I get sweat stains out of the neck and armpit regions of a white dress shirt?
I live in humid-as-fuck south Texas and every one of my white dress shirts seems to get ruined within a month's time.
Very hard to get out once they have settled in. I would get some gray v-neck undershirts to try to prevent this, also wash them ASAP and don't dry them unless the stain in completely out after washing.
Google sweat stains on dress shirts, and you will find lots of them ways to try and remove them, but I have found nothing works better then an undershirt to keep it to a minimum and then wash asap.
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On January 31 2012 08:18 jamesr12 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 07:49 SoLaR[i.C] wrote:
A serious question:
How the hell do I get sweat stains out of the neck and armpit regions of a white dress shirt?
I live in humid-as-fuck south Texas and every one of my white dress shirts seems to get ruined within a month's time. Very hard to get out once they have settled in. I would get some gray v-neck undershirts to try to prevent this, also wash them ASAP and don't dry them unless the stain in completely out after washing. Google sweat stains on dress shirts, and you will find lots of them ways to try and remove them, but I have found nothing works better then an undershirt to keep it to a minimum and then wash asap.
Damn, they've already sat awhile...
I think I will give Hydrogen Peroxide + Toothbrush a go.
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Out of curiosity why the hate on black suits? Is it just an aesthetic thing or a cultural thing I'm missing?
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