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Doominator10
United States515 Posts
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ZaMa
United States38 Posts
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Liman
Serbia681 Posts
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Ayaz2810
United States2763 Posts
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
On December 10 2013 08:29 Ayaz2810 wrote: I haven't been following the SC2 scene as closely as I used to, but when I did, Avilo was rocking like 80-200 viewers most of the time. Did he suddenly become amazing or something? I saw he had like ~2k viewers right now and I did a double take. Thought it was a mistake or something..... He's a good entertaining player, take that with as many hours as he streams then you got the following =) | ||
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ChowMuddha
Australia8 Posts
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
On December 10 2013 11:17 ChowMuddha wrote: He's an entertaining player*. corrected it for you Well, he WOULD BE good if protoss wasn't a joke! He's currently trying to get GM with protoss right now on his stream | ||
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Arkansassy
358 Posts
On December 12 2013 11:35 tshi wrote: Well, he WOULD BE good if protoss wasn't a joke! He's currently trying to get GM with protoss right now on his stream Correction - not GM, because all the slots are taken. He did quite well with Protoss, taking it from bronze to rank 4 diamond in five hrs.; however, he quit because he had a coaching session and he was tired. The important part, imo, is that he had fun. Just hope he didn't have so much fun (without the hard work) that he switches races.  | ||
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captainwaffles
United States1050 Posts
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Kiarip
United States1835 Posts
On December 10 2013 11:17 ChowMuddha wrote: He's an entertaining player*. corrected it for you He's a good player what are you even smoking? | ||
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captainwaffles
United States1050 Posts
I understand it can be hard for you to admit losses are you own fault but find another way to channel your emotion because its not cool to call people hackers/cheater when their not and when you have no proof. | ||
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Arkansassy
358 Posts
On December 14 2013 07:43 captainwaffles wrote: If Blord was a hacker I think he would have won this game we played a few days ago: http://drop.sc/367823 I understand it can be hard for you to admit losses are you own fault but find another way to channel your emotion because its not cool to call people hackers/cheater when their not and when you have no proof. I've seen more than one hacker lose a game to someone. I'd guess that you don't watch avilo's stream to have made that statement. Whilst he does call out hackers/stream cheaters, (lots of times because viewers link proof) he is also very analytical about why he lost a game. Many times I've heard statements like "That loss was my fault, because I didn't (whatever he failed to do at the time)." or "Damn, that was a dumb mistake on my part. If I had done (whatever) I might have won that game." His regular viewers know this about him. | ||
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captainwaffles
United States1050 Posts
I don't expect you to watch the rep or anything I know you don't play but trust me if he was a hacker it would be apparent in that replay I posted. The "proof" avilo gave in his rep analysis doesn't actually make any sense. Even on a barcode his account is known enough to assume mech. And then when Blord requested a pause avilo was super bm to him under the false assumption he hacks. Its just not cool to treat people like shit based on your own incorrect and baseless assessments like that. I'll keep watching to see him rage and complain its good quality lolsy entertainment but if I can I will dispel any wrongful accusations I can with proper evidence. | ||
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Arkansassy
358 Posts
On December 15 2013 08:21 captainwaffles wrote: I'm actually a pretty avid viewer, he does this all the time, just this time I recognized the guy he was accusing because I had played him on ladder a few days before. I don't expect you to watch the rep or anything I know you don't play but trust me if he was a hacker it would be apparent in that replay I posted. The "proof" avilo gave in his rep analysis doesn't actually make any sense. Even on a barcode his account is known enough to assume mech. And then when Blord requested a pause avilo was super bm to him under the false assumption he hacks. Its just not cool to treat people like shit based on your own incorrect and baseless assessments like that. I'll keep watching to see him rage and complain its good quality lolsy entertainment but if I can I will dispel any wrongful accusations I can with proper evidence. Thank you for your response, but if you watched every game for the last 3 1/2 - 4 yrs like I have, you'd know that your statement, "he does this all the time" is an inaccurate generalization. In order to gain a better perspective of the game and various points of view, I regularly watch other streams and have heard others make the same claims about their opponent. Whilst, I appreciate the fact that you posted a replay of a game you played v Blord, that only proves that he did not hack you.I'm not saying that he hacked avilo, but there's always a possibility. Unfortunately, "hacking/stream cheating" is all too prevalent in the community and tends to make one suspicious. As far as the "barcode" and his opponents knowing who they're playing because of his "style," I'd venture to say many non-fan viewers, who watch his stream for the same reasons you do (rage, to catch him in "wrongful accusations," etc), jump into the opponents chat and tell his opponent who they're playing. "Its just not cool to treat people like shit based on your own incorrect and baseless assessments like that," and yet I've been witness to that behavior toward avilo countless times. I was unable to watch the stream live the night he played Blord so, I could not see chat; however, I'm certain that some of the viewers agreed with your assessment, whilst others agreed with avilo. We are, each of us, entitled to our opinions and I've been told that things look quite differently when ingame as opposed to spectating. | ||
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captainwaffles
United States1050 Posts
On December 16 2013 04:03 Arkansassy wrote: Thank you for your response, but if you watched every game for the last 3 1/2 - 4 yrs like I have, you'd know that your statement, "he does this all the time" is an inaccurate generalization. In order to gain a better perspective of the game and various points of view, I regularly watch other streams and have heard others make the same claims about their opponent. Whilst, I appreciate the fact that you posted a replay of a game you played v Blord, that only proves that he did not hack you.I'm not saying that he hacked avilo, but there's always a possibility. Unfortunately, "hacking/stream cheating" is all too prevalent in the community and tends to make one suspicious. As far as the "barcode" and his opponents knowing who they're playing because of his "style," I'd venture to say many non-fan viewers, who watch his stream for the same reasons you do (rage, to catch him in "wrongful accusations," etc), jump into the opponents chat and tell his opponent who they're playing. "Its just not cool to treat people like shit based on your own incorrect and baseless assessments like that," and yet I've been witness to that behavior toward avilo countless times. I was unable to watch the stream live the night he played Blord so, I could not see chat; however, I'm certain that some of the viewers agreed with your assessment, whilst others agreed with avilo. We are, each of us, entitled to our opinions and I've been told that things look quite differently when ingame as opposed to spectating. I have been watching for a very long time my dear watson. I follow all the mech players regardless of their attitude or mindset. I'm also not one to exaggerate I don't even like posting unless I have something concrete to back it up. So when I say he does it all the time I'm being sincere. You can look up anyone of his stream vods at random and if you skip around enough or even just to the end of games loses there will mostly likely be a comment about how "weird" that guy played or how he "countered what I was producing" things along those lines. Again you don't have to take my word for its all readily there on his past broadcasts. You saying theres always a possibility that he hacked makes it okay to say he hacked? That possibility is non existent. His record isn't even suspicious...if he was a hacker I think he could manage to do better than 101-67 with top masters level mechanics. You say we're entitled to our opinions, so what opinion is there to have on the subject? Blord hacks or he does not. If avilo is making the claim that blord hacks its up to him to provide evidence to back this claim, all he did was watch a replay and noted that the zerg had only scouted his front wall (he failed to mention constant changlings that scouted his unit comp even if he didn't see his production til' later in the game). Blord does not hack, he didn't even have any weird screen locks when going into the fog war. You know the only reason people sling shit at avilo is because he slings it first. Does it make it right? No thats not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is don't be surprised when someone who BM's opponents on ladder simply for what race they play or if they won against him or queue up against him several times in a row (seriously man the pool of players gets smaller the higher you're ranked getting queued with someone over and over just happens sometimes) ... the list goes on, he BM's a lot of people for a lot of reasons, none of them valid. Then theres the constant balance threads made on the blizzard forums, the ones that were if posted on TL would get him insta banned (assuming repeat offense after a warning). The threads in which he states the same thing over and over something something something mech, something something something protoss. He'll attack people that disagree with him and without fail will pull the rank card. It funny when mario gets involved tho because he is almost always higher ranked than avilo, so then he just resorts to "personal attacks". The same thing he says people do against him.. hes a shit talker that can't take shit. http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/10894849806?page=1 If you're a regular on those forums you'll notice a semi daily balance whine thread telling bilzzard to fix the game. http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/vws05/avilos_long_history_of_esports_dramadisrespect/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter Going back to when I said he does this stuff all the time, hes been doing these distasteful things for years apparently. I could go on as to why people love to fling shit at avilo but that wall of text is already pretty big. As long as avilo continues to rage and complain and make baseless accusations and come up with constant excuses for losses (never giving the opponent credit) and bm people in game and via other mediums hes going to have shit flung at him as should be expected. | ||
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
On December 16 2013 07:19 captainwaffles wrote: I have been watching for a very long time my dear watson. I follow all the mech players regardless of their attitude or mindset. I'm also not one to exaggerate I don't even like posting unless I have something concrete to back it up. So when I say he does it all the time I'm being sincere. You can look up anyone of his stream vods at random and if you skip around enough or even just to the end of games loses there will mostly likely be a comment about how "weird" that guy played or how he "countered what I was producing" things along those lines. Again you don't have to take my word for its all readily there on his past broadcasts. You saying theres always a possibility that he hacked makes it okay to say he hacked? That possibility is non existent. His record isn't even suspicious...if he was a hacker I think he could manage to do better than 101-67 with top masters level mechanics. You say we're entitled to our opinions, so what opinion is there to have on the subject? Blord hacks or he does not. If avilo is making the claim that blord hacks its up to him to provide evidence to back this claim, all he did was watch a replay and noted that the zerg had only scouted his front wall (he failed to mention constant changlings that scouted his unit comp even if he didn't see his production til' later in the game). Blord does not hack, he didn't even have any weird screen locks when going into the fog war. You know the only reason people sling shit at avilo is because he slings it first. Does it make it right? No thats not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is don't be surprised when someone who BM's opponents on ladder simply for what race they play or if they won against him or queue up against him several times in a row (seriously man the pool of players gets smaller the higher you're ranked getting queued with someone over and over just happens sometimes) ... the list goes on, he BM's a lot of people for a lot of reasons, none of them valid. Then theres the constant balance threads made on the blizzard forums, the ones that were if posted on TL would get him insta banned (assuming repeat offense after a warning). The threads in which he states the same thing over and over something something something mech, something something something protoss. He'll attack people that disagree with him and without fail will pull the rank card. It funny when mario gets involved tho because he is almost always higher ranked than avilo, so then he just resorts to "personal attacks". The same thing he says people do against him.. hes a shit talker that can't take shit. http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/10894849806?page=1 If you're a regular on those forums you'll notice a semi daily balance whine thread telling bilzzard to fix the game. http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/vws05/avilos_long_history_of_esports_dramadisrespect/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter Going back to when I said he does this stuff all the time, hes been doing these distasteful things for years apparently. I could go on as to why people love to fling shit at avilo but that wall of text is already pretty big. As long as avilo continues to rage and complain and make baseless accusations and come up with constant excuses for losses (never giving the opponent credit) and bm people in game and via other mediums hes going to have shit flung at him as should be expected. You're borderline stalker level right now. As they say, get a life. If you don't like the stream, then don't watch. You obviously are jealous or have some problem with me personally. Too bad. Lots enjoy my stream, if you don't, don't watch it. Otherwise, keep hating, no one cares. | ||
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captainwaffles
United States1050 Posts
On December 16 2013 11:31 avilo wrote: You're borderline stalker level right now. As they say, get a life. If you don't like the stream, then don't watch. You obviously are jealous or have some problem with me personally. Too bad. Lots enjoy my stream, if you don't, don't watch it. Otherwise, keep hating, no one cares. Ah must be annoying when someone puts a mirror to up your face and shows you your true colors. There are those personal attacks I was referring too, everything I said was true and you can't argue against it so you attack me personally. My problem with you personally is that you're a unpleasant person, actually a lot of people have that problem with you. And you don't limit it to your stream you go on and infect the forums and other mediums with your trash. You don't want to get called out? Don't do shitty things worth getting called out for, simple as that. All the things I've outlines in these last few posts are the reason no one in the community takes you seriously. Maybe if you mannered up that could change but I doubt it you've been this way for a very long time: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/vws05/avilos_long_history_of_esports_dramadisrespect/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter I'm actually very impressed you managed to get a lot of viewers, and congratz for realz. on that because you have put in a lot of effort to get and maintain the following you have. But that does not change the fact that you're a balance whining bm manchild that kicks his chair when he loses on the ladder and then "asks" (spamming threads with "fix it" at the end of each post is more of demand tbh) blizzard to fix the game for you. | ||
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
On December 09 2013 23:46 Doominator10 wrote: Darn you avilo. I know you offrace as protoss to prove a point and relieve some rage energies every once and a while, but could you plz offrace as zerg too :D? Heck, a separate random account would be awesome. I may be doing this soon as MediumusGrey (LOL) @waffles, its very easy to attempt to paint a 1 sided picture of someone in this community, like your post above with a link to a lot of untrue things. Too bad for you most people already know my true colors and know that i'm a good d00d. Deal with it and stop obsessing over me. | ||
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captainwaffles
United States1050 Posts
On December 16 2013 19:48 avilo wrote: I may be doing this soon as MediumusGrey (LOL) @waffles, its very easy to attempt to paint a 1 sided picture of someone in this community, like your post above with a link to a lot of untrue things. Too bad for you most people already know my true colors and know that i'm a good d00d. Deal with it and stop obsessing over me. Ah yes the portion where you cover your ears and go la la la. Are you not currently banned on GamerReplays? I use to read those boards (CnC3/KW) and I know for a fact you are, you want to go ahead and point out what in that post is untrue? The dozens of spam accounts? Or maybe the credit taking of other peoples guides. You just did that one again in the B.net forums today saying everyone who mechs in sc2 got it from you, how you can even say that? most people? who is/are most people? I'm asking genuinely asking here. Me posting here is dealing with it, believe me I don't mention you to anyone who doesn't already know about you (ie sc people), deal with that. | ||
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bishoph
Germany3 Posts
Watching Avilo since quite some time whenever I have the time from good old Europe. I really like his (play)style and the insight Avilo provides while playing and streaming. Sure I don't agree all the time with him but Avilo has some good knowledge overall. One of the reasons why many fellow Terran players are watching him IMHO is that he is consistent, entertaining and shares his knowledge. Maybe you don't got it but Avilo has a passion for the game. And a clear enemy ... TvP. Avilo shares his ideas, rage and opinion on stream. Looking at other players like forGG - they play more aggressive and have a higher win rate - but even those players struggle against Toss and there is a feeling that loosing to P is (sometimes) unfair. I want Avilo to continue with the passion and fun he normally has and work (like all of us) on the current issues. Keep up and fight the force! | ||
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