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mr.grimm
Sweden63 Posts
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Romance_us
Seychelles1806 Posts
On May 06 2011 09:35 DreamSailor wrote: I know lots of adults, I am recognized as the government as one myself no less. When you're a mod, you should act like a moderator, and not have ridiculous double standards for your community, and your mod team. I wouldn't doubt I get banned for my previous post, or this one for that matter. And you seriously haven't learned in 460 posts that saying "I'll probably get banned for this" will result in a GUARANTEED ban? You proved nothing and just fucked yourself. | ||
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GriNn
United States243 Posts
On May 06 2011 09:36 Romance_us wrote: And you seriously haven't learned in 460 posts that saying "I'll probably get banned for this" will result in a GUARANTEED ban? You proved nothing and just fucked yourself. lol I love when that happens. So funny. | ||
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deth
Australia1757 Posts
On May 06 2011 09:35 haylmfao wrote: So cheating in ladder is okay? It's just a computer game after all isn't it? What about cheating in a tournament? Still a computer game. Hell, playing computer games is ABSOLUTELY not something an adult does, why does this site even exist? We should all quit SC2 and go do something useful with our lives! When will you people realise that you have no proof that cruncher actually cheated? | ||
BroOd
Austin10831 Posts
On May 06 2011 09:33 Asparagus wrote: As an IdrA fan and being here from the start of this nonsense, Why won't you guys just admit that you won't permaban him already because he brings traffic to this site? He's clearly a repeat offender, noone else gets the amount of slack he does. If you ban him for 2 days to "make an example" because you "have integrity" then actually listen to your own rules and nuke his account already. Just saying, your actions should be governed by set in stone rules. But this is your house so whatever. lol what a ludicrous notion. This is the exact mentality that leads to the concept of mandatory minimum sentencing. | ||
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Myia
173 Posts
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NoXious90
United Kingdom160 Posts
On May 06 2011 09:35 letzgoterps wrote: While this is "just a video game," please remember this is also his JOB. As in he gets paid to play a video game. TL mods taking revenue out of esports because of power tripping/a sensitive disposition towards harmless insults said over the internet? | ||
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DreamSailor
Canada433 Posts
On May 06 2011 09:36 Romance_us wrote: And you seriously haven't learned in 460 posts that saying "I'll probably get banned for this" will result in a GUARANTEED ban? You proved nothing and just fucked yourself. I've learned lots, from various forums, a non-permanent ban is irrelevant. Even Permanent-bans can easily be circumvented. | ||
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Asparagus
United States269 Posts
On May 06 2011 09:39 BroOd wrote: lol what a ludicrous notion. This is the exact mentality that leads to the concept of mandatory minimum sentencing. pretty sure we got a blue post already stating the reason he's even still here is because he's IdrA This account's been 2weeked before with the precise reason of "being an asshole, and not knowing how things work around here" (trolling in a stoner thread) So tell me, would you know how things work around here? I'm dying to know how I can further my online aggression and get away with 2days, IdrA being the best example. | ||
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ePrime
United States9 Posts
On May 06 2011 09:39 deth wrote: When will you people realise that you have no proof that cruncher actually cheated? What do you need proof for? Also, do you realize that if he was cheating the only proof you could get was from him providing it himself? Intuition is enough to make a forum post about it it's not like IdrA asked battle.net to ban CrunCher for cheating. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On May 06 2011 09:46 Asparagus wrote: pretty sure we got a blue post already stating the reason he's even still here is because he's IdrA This account's been 2weeked before with the precise reason of "being an asshole, and not knowing how things work around here" (trolling in a stoner thread) So tell me, would you know how things work around here? I'm dying to know how I can further my online aggression and get away with 2days, IdrA being the best example. Become a site veteran and contribute loads and loads of help to the BW and SC2 forums. | ||
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Asparagus
United States269 Posts
On May 06 2011 09:47 Jibba wrote: Become a site veteran and contribute loads and loads of help to the BW and SC2 forums. Actually that really really really works out well indeed. Thank you for the answer I was expecting. | ||
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fer
Canada375 Posts
On May 06 2011 09:32 duartesito wrote: Gotta say, the more i spend time in TL the more i realize it's just a bunch of elitists running it. I love the site, love the community, but your taking this ''it's my site, i do whatever i want with it'' too far. I don't agree with Idra in almost anything but i respect the guy. Wish i could say the same all the time about TL.net (staff, mods and team). Chill i don't care much for, but Tyler is loosing me. I'm glad other communities are popping up, cause it's getting ridiculous. Pussies! This. However, until one with the support levels of teamliquid pops up (and no doubt it will, judging by SC2's growth rate and very vast audience), we'll have to put up with the 'moderation'. Teamliquid still has its roots very deep in Broodwar's era apparently, in terms of the forum approach and moderation. I don't doubt it will stay around for a long while, if not forever just by the sheer monopoly it's secured itself by circumstance (SC2-wise). That said, the ban was well deserved. People arguing double standards should probably do it because he isn't perma-banned for a post like that, instead of trying to excuse IdrA out of it. | ||
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Subllat
34 Posts
I thought about making this thread, but didn't have a place to put it until now. I'm not going to discuss Chill's moderation, but instead, the team's moderation as a whole. A quality forum is ESSENTIAL for the SC:BW and SC2 community. Truly, our forum's quality should match that of the events that we view, and the game that we play, the community we love, and the skills that those we watch have. Further, it is OF COURSE the TL moderation team's job to keep the forum clean,organized, and not filled with trolls. However, when the forum is being moderated in it's current fashion. well then it's not really able to serve its purpose as a forum at all is it? Forum - A meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged A meeting or medium; alright we have that part down. Where views on a particular issue can be exchanged...Well..I'm not quite so sure about this one. When your chances of being banned are higher than of sharing your ideas, then I have a hard time feeling like I'm at a forum, and more like I'm waiting in line at a Nazi concentration camp to see if they'll feed me that day, or kick me out of line. It's truly a shame, we see that the SC2 Reddit has 0 moderation, and yet thrives, with quality posts, good information ETC. The fact that in the strategy forum for a new player to just get a bit of help, means spending so much time trying to get help, evading bans, and framing their question in the exact rigid format to avoid being slammed hard as hell in the face with the ban hammer than actually getting help is sickening. I would reach to the "power trip" point, but I feel the moderation team is mature enough to handle themselves better than that. It's just ludicrous to assume that in your attempts to help the forum, you aren't hurting it further, when you have 2 even 3 stickies on how to post! Now, I'm not saying we have to get rid of strictness, believe me some of it is needed, I think that if the same level of rigidity is to be kept the amount of effort a poster has to put into a post should be matched by that of moderators. When a moderator closes a thread with "Read the guidelines", frankly, you sound like a fucking asshole. If even maybe a 2 to 3 line minimum reason would be ok, maybe a direct quote from the guidelines, I could be ok with it. Sure, the rules say "THIS IS OUR HOUSE", the exact opposite is true, this forum ISN'T for you moderators, it is for us, the posters, or else you moderators wouldn't be needed. In closing, I have never seen a forum so strictly moderated in my life, and I have never seen quality suffer so severely from it, the worst part is, it could be fixed so easy. A community trying to grow does not need a constant muzzle, it doesn't need a stun gun every time it gets a bit out of line. I'll probably be banned for this as I said, but I hope some of you recognize what I'm saying. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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IotaSC
United States91 Posts
but on a serious note,  wanted to learn some zerg from him. While he can be really harsh on other players' skill levels and on the other races taking none, still an amazing player to watch, and he does back some opinions quite well as far as balance goes. Even though I'm protoss, I will eagerly await Sunday! | ||
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Marzuki
United States30 Posts
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bobbob
United States368 Posts
As for streaming 2 days, I do watch occasionally, and I fully understand that if he feels it isn't worth his time to stream with a diminished number of viewers, then it's his right not to stream. An insult is an insult, regardless of who it came from, if day[9] called a player a waste of a life, the moderators would probably warn him. IdrA has a history of bans on TL, so the mods do keep a close watch on him. As for proof of cheating, surely SOMEONE thought to open cruncher's stream and find him watching IdrA's game, if he was at all. Failing that, I'm sure someone watching Cruncher's stream could post a screenshot of him cheating. Until someone finds a screenshot or other proof, Cruncher should not be banned over alleged cheating. Thank you mods for being sane. | ||
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deth
Australia1757 Posts
On May 06 2011 09:46 ePrime wrote: What do you need proof for? Also, do you realize that if he was cheating the only proof you could get was from him providing it himself? Intuition is enough to make a forum post about it it's not like IdrA asked battle.net to ban CrunCher for cheating. Wait what? People are calling for Cruncher to be banned for cheating, Idra flaming him in his classical...idra style. Of course you need proof if you're going to call for someone to be punished. That's just common sense. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On May 06 2011 09:55 bobbob wrote: As for proof of cheating, surely SOMEONE thought to open cruncher's stream and find him watching IdrA's game, if he was at all. Failing that, I'm sure someone watching Cruncher's stream could post a screenshot of him cheating. Until someone finds a screenshot or other proof, Cruncher should not be banned over alleged cheating. Thank you mods for being sane. He was on the stream and he admits he was watching so he'd know when to queue. There's a screenshot of him watching the stream, but it has the sound muted and it wasn't when they played. As far as anyone can prove, he just had the stream up in the background so he could queue together, but it was muted and he wasn't watching it as they played. | ||
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HolyZesto
United States3 Posts
On May 06 2011 09:55 bobbob wrote: As for proof of cheating, surely SOMEONE thought to open cruncher's stream and find him watching IdrA's game, if he was at all. Failing that, I'm sure someone watching Cruncher's stream could post a screenshot of him cheating. Until someone finds a screenshot or other proof, Cruncher should not be banned over alleged cheating. Thank you mods for being sane. If he uses two monitors, or just any large monitor, it would be easy enough to keep his stream from showing the web page from which he was watching Idra's stream. Obviously he's not dumb enough to stream himself cheating. | ||
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