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Swineflew
United States61 Posts
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UED_Neverlast
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Konobolt
Sweden3 Posts
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haylmfao
124 Posts
On May 06 2011 10:23 MrBoysen wrote: On twitter @idrajit: You Should remind chill that Tyler said TL is a place for people to say what they want! No contradiction in that, as long as you interpret Tyler right. They were discussing TL, the team and the site. "Teamliquid is a place for people to say what they(teamliquid staff) want" Now it's perfectly clear. | ||
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Myersmayhem
United States21 Posts
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Asparagus
United States269 Posts
On May 06 2011 10:37 haylmfao wrote: No contradiction in that, as long as you interpret Tyler right. They were discussing TL, the team and the site. "Teamliquid is a place for people to say what they(teamliquid staff) want" Now it's perfectly clear. Pretty much, their house.. their rules. | ||
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Clog
United States950 Posts
On May 06 2011 10:31 Swineflew wrote: I'm a huge IdrA fan, and I honestly don't give 2 shits about him being banned. I'm pissed at him for calling off his stream because of it. It's barely even related to this site. Even though he was still able to micro enough people here to bitch at the mods. I just don't like the thought of him manipulating the fans to bitch at the TL mods by taking away his stream of his own free will. Well you can't deny that his viewer count would go down (probably significantly), as a lot of people that watch his stream do so via this site. I don't necessarily blame him for choosing not to stream if less people are going to watch it, although I wish he would. Even though banning IdrA hurts the Starcraft 2 community, it helps the TL community, and you can't rag on them for doing what they did. Even though this site is the biggest one for Starcraft 2, doesn't mean that's all it's about. | ||
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Swineflew
United States61 Posts
On May 06 2011 10:37 haylmfao wrote: No contradiction in that, as long as you interpret Tyler right. They were discussing TL, the team and the site. "Teamliquid is a place for people to say what they(teamliquid staff) want" Now it's perfectly clear. That's not what he was saying at all. They were discussing the EG thread and Tyler wants this to be an open community where people say what they want without the politics of esports getting in the way. At least that's how I understood it. | ||
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cavalier117
United States430 Posts
On May 06 2011 07:10 CrunCher wrote: lol. idra fanboys so uspet i sniped idra. watch my stream next time  cant accept a loss  about the 'cheating': sniping=waiting till he searches to search http://puu.sh/1Tpw as you can see the sound is muted and the guy ss'd my stream(live) idra all-ins half the games in ipl, and i didnt see him expand. and you make 2 gateways so you block off faster, mostly after nexus first (and i dropped my 2nd gate before he dropped his roach warren). and 2 cannons when you nexus first is cheating? (watch gsl/ipl/nasl, ex- anypro makes 3 cannons and zealot/sentry/stalker before tech) read between the lines, thats much better? not only does a "featured streamer/pro gamer openly admit to stream sniping ONLY for the sake of trolling, unless privately talked about, its apparently tolerated? I thought being Featured was supposed to be a thing of prestige, something to represent the best of our community, This guy openly flames THEE most popular esports player on the site at every turn, both on streams and in game in front of the community and noone says anything to him? yea, he didnt call IdrA a name in the forums, not telling TL admins how to run things but.... on a sidenote, cant we just watch the justin tv VOD of cruncher's session to see if he really cheated or not? they save everything dont they? im too lazy too search through it to check. | ||
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
Anyway to whoever it was that was saying strict moderation is strangling the community (Sabllut I think?); the TL guidelines are incredibly reasonable and basic. I have yet to see a ban go down that hasn't been merited. You get warnings before bans for minor diversions. If you're pissing yourself before you post wondering whether you'll get banned well...that's not how I feel at all. The only thing I can imagine you are referencing is balance whine; on what other topic are your views not welcome? All that is asked is that you express them in a reasonable respectful manner. Is that so fucking hard? Is it so fascist to want people to talk like adults, in the relevant threads? Granted the Strategy forum 'purge' may seem a little harsh but perhaps you didn't see what a cesspit it was before (and possibly still is, I don't frequent it). But the bottom line is I don't see people banned for discussing things. The guidelines don't restrict you in the way you imply, you can talk about what you like just don't be a dick. It's easy. Oh and don't martyr which is probably what your temp ban is for. Anyway this is the Idra's stream thread, so did Idra really say Day[9] doesn't know what he's talking about because he doesn't play Starcraft 2? | ||
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HolyZesto
United States3 Posts
On May 06 2011 10:48 The KY wrote: Anyway this is the Idra's stream thread, so did Idra really say Day[9] doesn't know what he's talking about because he doesn't play Starcraft 2? Did he supposedly say that during SoTG? Or after? I don't remember him ever saying that. | ||
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haylmfao
124 Posts
On May 06 2011 10:44 Clog wrote: Well you can't deny that his viewer count would go down (probably significantly), as a lot of people that watch his stream do so via this site. I don't necessarily blame him for choosing not to stream if less people are going to watch it, although I wish he would. Even though banning IdrA hurts the Starcraft 2 community, it helps the TL community, and you can't rag on them for doing what they did. Even though this site is the biggest one for Starcraft 2, doesn't mean that's all it's about. Name one way in which the ban and the giant argument in this thread helps the community at all. That is, unless you count people opening their eyes to how the moderation works here as good for teamliquid (if I was a part of TL staff I wouldn't). All that this will likely result in is other communities (reddit etc) starting to dislike TL, Chill or whoever because they can't watch Idra's stream. | ||
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KingVietKong
United States170 Posts
On May 06 2011 10:37 haylmfao wrote: No contradiction in that, as long as you interpret Tyler right. They were discussing TL, the team and the site. "Teamliquid is a place for people to say what they(teamliquid staff) want" Now it's perfectly clear. Keep in mind though that Tyler is part of Team Liquid, but is not in any official capacity part of teamliquid.com's administration on the site or forum. It's also important to remember that Tyler has a hard time sticking to a solid, defensible point in any debate, whether he's right or wrong. Remember he got double teamed by Idra and InControl regarding extended series and as he became flustered his words lost weight, yet just the next week Sundance absolutely dominated that discussion simply because he kept his thoughts more organized. Same thing happened this week and in that thread, Tyler started off with a valid point and went too far, losing track of the discussion as he got more emotionally involved. Besides that, Idra could easily voice his opinion in a way that did not mimic 2nd grade behavior. But hell that's why we love him... love is a strong word there, but it's something to approve of. What is not good is this lame attempt to punish TL, which I'm sure does not give a shit what he does on his stream in reaction. Cruncher is digging his own grave doing stuff like stream watching, Idra need not be so reactive. | ||
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
As others have noted, Cruncher has posted about the issue, "lol". TL's forum, their rules, but I just don't quite get this one. It's just IdrA being IdrA. Yes, if everyone were to act that way in all threads, the forum would suck. But this is IdrA, in a thread about IdrA. A little nuance, perhaps? | ||
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Swineflew
United States61 Posts
On May 06 2011 10:51 HolyZesto wrote: Did he supposedly say that during SoTG? Or after? I don't remember him ever saying that. He mentioned that Day9 doesn't get to play enough SC2 to understand that it's imbalanced. He also said that Day9 was one of the best NA players ever in SC1. It was during his Q/A on his stream from earlier today, the VOD should be up on justin.tv it's near the last 20 minutes if you care to look it up. Edit: not to get offtopic, but schools almost over for Mr.9 so I'm hoping something fierce he comes back to the pro scene. | ||
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
On May 06 2011 10:51 HolyZesto wrote: Did he supposedly say that during SoTG? Or after? I don't remember him ever saying that. I saw it mentioned in another thread that he said it on the stream...can't imagine he'd say it on SOTG as it's pretty insulting (essentially implying his reputation is based on a falsehood). I just wonder how much truth is in it, as Day[9] obviously doesn't have the time to practice the same way an active pro does, but in a recent Blizzard interview he said the most important thing for him as a caster is to play A LOT, and also the content of his Dailies convinces me that his life is still largely focused on the strategy of Starcraft. EDIT: Oh OK thanks to the above poster. I would watch the VOD but alas, no laptop this week while it is repaired so my only access to the internet is a Nintendo Wii, so no VODS and no SC2 D: And I have to type this with a fucking wiimote >:/ Anyway what Idra said don't sound as bad then, but still...seems like Day plays quite a lot, random as well, and I wonder if Idra is wrong to imagine that if you play more games you suddenly see a gross imbalance. I think maybe he just can't comprehend Day[9]'s stance on balance; that it is nearly irrelevant. | ||
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Myersmayhem
United States21 Posts
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Blardy
United States290 Posts
On May 06 2011 10:23 Romance_us wrote: I used quotation marks. Meaning that I wasn't the one saying it, but rather somebody else. What was the point of this post? -_- For clarification because you lack reading comprehension, martyring yourself will result in a ban. It has been said and shown to be true a thousand times over on this forum. You still said it regardless of the quotations. You wont get banned for typing that sentence 100% of the time, only most of the time. So it isn't a guaranteed ban. | ||
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spacek
United States213 Posts
On May 06 2011 08:51 H wrote: If you think calling someone a waste of life because of their Starcraft 2 play is justified you are probably retarded. we ban world class zerg players for calling cheaters "wastes of lives", and we have model examples of society such as this gem patrolling the e-streets calling people retarded. | ||
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Durance
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Either way, Idra has chosen to take out his frustration on his fans. He promised to commentate with his stream, now he won't by his own choice. | ||
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