EPTOn June 11 2011 05:08 da_head wrote:
holy shit, his last game was fuckin epic.
holy shit, his last game was fuckin epic.
I thought his game against mass Colo and Stalkers was pretty epic, I'm surprised he didn't lose any infestors. Jesus!
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Torte de Lini
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I thought his game against mass Colo and Stalkers was pretty epic, I'm surprised he didn't lose any infestors. Jesus! | ||
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insaneMicro
Germany761 Posts
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Echo312
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Kamuy
United States212 Posts
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lisward
Singapore959 Posts
On June 08 2011 05:51 Houkka wrote: You mean comedians who joke about race, or comedians who are racist? Because there is a huge difference. For comedians who joke about race (other than their own) how about Trey Parker and Matt Stone? I'd say South Park has found its target audience. But no one in their right mind would think those two are racist. Comedians who are racist? I'm not sure that's possible, comedy requires brains, whereas racism requires a lack thereof. I certainly hope there is no market for real racism. My point being that the effect of a 'racial slur' depends on the context. As well as the effect of any other word that is generally considered offensive. Does anyone actually think Destiny is a racist, homophobe or chauvinist or something of the sort because of the things he says? Because it's pretty damn obvious to me he isn't. There is no 'context' when it comes to racial slur. A slur is an insult, when you use a racial slur, you are insulting a particular race. When you call someone a nigger, a spick or a chink, you say it to insult the person's race, there is no context. By the way I am a huge Destiny fan, I enjoy watching his stream, and I like his uncensored approach, but some things you just can't joke about, like Incontrol said, the easy way for his to counter argue would be to say 'Oh then where do I stop drawing the line!'. I'm referring specifically to race. For example, I remember there was once where CombatEx stream sniped him, and he skyped with CombatEx, and Destiny was just insulting the crap out of CombatEx, and I remember him using quite a few race specific insults. No doubt was laughing as well, but deep down in me, I lost quite a bit of respect for the man, I just could not help but wonder if that was what he really thought about Asians. I remember him saying something about catering to your audience, his reason for being offensive was "Look my audience wants to hear this, they want to see the uncensored me." I'm pretty sure the bulk of Destiny's audience isn't just Caucasian males, and the easy way out of this would be to say, "Oh if you don't want to hear this, just leave, you don't make up a majority of my viewers." But does that make it right? | ||
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MrJargon
United Kingdom158 Posts
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Houkka
Finland51 Posts
On June 11 2011 19:32 lisward wrote: There is no 'context' when it comes to racial slur. A slur is an insult, when you use a racial slur, you are insulting a particular race. When you call someone a nigger, a spick or a chink, you say it to insult the person's race, there is no context. By the way I am a huge Destiny fan, I enjoy watching his stream, and I like his uncensored approach, but some things you just can't joke about, like Incontrol said, the easy way for his to counter argue would be to say 'Oh then where do I stop drawing the line!'. I'm referring specifically to race. For example, I remember there was once where CombatEx stream sniped him, and he skyped with CombatEx, and Destiny was just insulting the crap out of CombatEx, and I remember him using quite a few race specific insults. No doubt was laughing as well, but deep down in me, I lost quite a bit of respect for the man, I just could not help but wonder if that was what he really thought about Asians. I remember him saying something about catering to your audience, his reason for being offensive was "Look my audience wants to hear this, they want to see the uncensored me." I'm pretty sure the bulk of Destiny's audience isn't just Caucasian males, and the easy way out of this would be to say, "Oh if you don't want to hear this, just leave, you don't make up a majority of my viewers." But does that make it right? I think there IS a context. I personally believe that a lot of people who use these words do it not because they want to insult, but mostly because of the absurdity of the situation. At least if I use one of those words, it'll be because it doesn't make any sense that it's even possible to insult anyone for his race. Of course real racism can be a huge problem, but the whole idea that blacks or asians or mexicans or any other race is inferior is so ridiculously stupid, that I find its absurdity humorous in many situations. It's like making fun of someone who has two legs. It's just stupid. And I find a lot of stupid things funny. Also, speaking of context, language and the meaning of words changes all the time. I can't think of a word that was originally made up to be an insult. And the n-word is no exception. The word came with no implied racism, before it was decided that the word was racist. The problem with racism towards black people isn't/wasn't the n-word, it is/was the racism itself. Changing the name of the situation has no effect whatsoever on the situation itself. And don't get me wrong, I totally understand why some people don't like to hear language like this. I just disagree with them, and think they draw some false conclusions from the language people use. I like how George Carlin said it: "It's not the word you ought to be concerned about, it's the racist asshole that's using it!". | ||
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Mordiford
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On June 11 2011 19:32 lisward wrote: There is no 'context' when it comes to racial slur. A slur is an insult, when you use a racial slur, you are insulting a particular race. When you call someone a nigger, a spick or a chink, you say it to insult the person's race, there is no context. By the way I am a huge Destiny fan, I enjoy watching his stream, and I like his uncensored approach, but some things you just can't joke about, like Incontrol said, the easy way for his to counter argue would be to say 'Oh then where do I stop drawing the line!'. I'm referring specifically to race. For example, I remember there was once where CombatEx stream sniped him, and he skyped with CombatEx, and Destiny was just insulting the crap out of CombatEx, and I remember him using quite a few race specific insults. No doubt was laughing as well, but deep down in me, I lost quite a bit of respect for the man, I just could not help but wonder if that was what he really thought about Asians. I remember him saying something about catering to your audience, his reason for being offensive was "Look my audience wants to hear this, they want to see the uncensored me." I'm pretty sure the bulk of Destiny's audience isn't just Caucasian males, and the easy way out of this would be to say, "Oh if you don't want to hear this, just leave, you don't make up a majority of my viewers." But does that make it right? So how about "gay" or "faggot"? That's not racially specific, but holds importance to specific groups of people in the same way that racial slurs do. It gets a bit messy in this regard. If we know he's not being discriminatory, I don't see the issue on his stream. | ||
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r3clay
Netherlands137 Posts
On June 12 2011 03:01 Mordiford wrote: So how about "gay" or "faggot"? That's not racially specific, but holds importance to specific groups of people in the same way that racial slurs do. It gets a bit messy in this regard. If we know he's not being discriminatory, I don't see the issue on his stream. How about the word "NERD" thats a group of people, i believe its even us. but we call ourself nerds, we don't have trouble with it.. there were/are a couple of people who do and start killing people in there school with machineguns.. so the word nerd can't be used too?? no we allow nerd, most of us don't get offended by it.. some do, fuck those same goes with all other words, nigger most don't care some do, fuck those people don't let them spoil everything. We base our rules/thought/principles on the mass of people not a small group in the mass. I want this rediculous discussing to be over now, cause there is no way to end this fucking stupid dickshit discussion. if yo udon't want to hear harsch words go watch sesame street intstead of piss off. | ||
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Cudaflu
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Adsee
United States221 Posts
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vijeze
Netherlands719 Posts
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Adsee
United States221 Posts
On June 12 2011 04:24 vijeze wrote: He probably got ddosed. I actually looked around and found out he forfeited to play Ipl games. | ||
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Monox1de
United States101 Posts
I'm glad i got to play against him before he had to play his IPL matches. It was a privilege =) | ||
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Gnax
Sweden490 Posts
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Dreaming11
United Kingdom105 Posts
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Gnax
Sweden490 Posts
On June 13 2011 06:59 Dreaming11 wrote: Is anyone else unable to load the stream chat? It's the same both on justin.tv itself and warpprism. I can watch the actual stream. Yeah, same here. | ||
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Dreaming11
United Kingdom105 Posts
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AltF4Gate
United Kingdom112 Posts
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SolHeiM
Sweden1264 Posts
On June 11 2011 19:32 lisward wrote: There is no 'context' when it comes to racial slur. A slur is an insult, when you use a racial slur, you are insulting a particular race. When you call someone a nigger, a spick or a chink, you say it to insult the person's race, there is no context. Of course there is context. The reason it's widely considered acceptable for black comedians to use the word nigger without anyone calling them racist is because we know they're not racist towards other black people because they, themselves are black. The context is different. But if a white stand-up comedian uses the word nigger all of a sudden he's using it as a racial slur. Sorry, but no. It all depends on the context. Calling a black friend "my nigga" if you're white is not racist because he knows you're not racist. Calling a black robber a "fucking delinquent nigger who should just rot in prison" is a racial slur because you're insulting and judging a person because of their skin color. | ||
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