EPT"Tear It Down" - Making-of TSL4 Theme Song - Page 4
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I do enjot the TSL4 song quite a bit. But that Ever osl 2k7 intro... is insane, that beep at the end ... | ||
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ColdLava
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On August 19 2012 08:02 the_business_og wrote: did you also make the song for the ads in progress screen? No, time constraints meant we could only use a copyright free song for that >_< On August 19 2012 12:00 RezJ wrote: Mastering is something that's been done in popular music for ages now, mainly for consistency - people don't want to fiddle with volume levels every time they change the song, and neither do radio stations for that matter. That's why mastered songs are also considered "radio-ready". If your song sounds "weak" compared to the last one, people will lose interest, without even realizing why(!). It would be naive to disregard these things and try to promote more dynamic range in music - it's not gonna happen. At least not in Pop and Rock. Moreover, mastering does not entirely eliminate dynamic range. And finally, it does not take away the songwriter's ability to create lows and highs within a song - which is the main advantage of broad dynamic range. If you enjoy the broader dynamics, there's plenty of classical music that does not have any compression on it whatsoever. Yeah this pretty much answers that question. To be honest as I get more skilled in engineering and mixing, my compression will become more accurate to what's needed in the situation, but I don't ever mean to literally remove the dynamics a song has and am quite aware of it. But there is a competition factor when you master a track compared to what's out there and the idea of the song being in a somewhat consistent volume range is important. | ||
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On August 19 2012 21:15 ColdLava wrote: No, time constraints meant we could only use a copyright free song for that >_< Yeah this pretty much answers that question. To be honest as I get more skilled in engineering and mixing, my compression will become more accurate to what's needed in the situation, but I don't ever mean to literally remove the dynamics a song has and am quite aware of it. But there is a competition factor when you master a track compared to what's out there and the idea of the song being in a somewhat consistent volume range is important. Except that: - Radio has been around an arse-load longer than the loudness wars, so the 'radio-ready' argument is pointless. - Most music is recorded in the digital domain nowadays - we have a ReplayGain to even out volume differences (not to mention, people could just adhere to SMPTE RP 200-2002, used in theatres, to keep things uniform. - And to address RezJ's points - obviously mastering doesn't eliminate dynamics in music - compression of clipped tracks does. By definition it eliminates the songwriter's ability to create lows and highs, because it's eliminating the dynamics. - Why am I forced to listen only to Jazz, Blues and Classics to enjoy dynamics in music? Case in point: An alternate master of RHCP 'Californicataion', which sounds infinitely better than the bastardized, overly compressed pile of crap that Rick Rubin released. Sorry, I know this is all OT, but I really enjoy the TSL4 theme from a creative standpoint. I just can't stand hearing clipping and compression artifacts. I'll stop derailing things. | ||
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ColdLava
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On August 20 2012 21:46 Anathallo wrote: Except that: - Radio has been around an arse-load longer than the loudness wars, so the 'radio-ready' argument is pointless. - Most music is recorded in the digital domain nowadays - we have a ReplayGain to even out volume differences (not to mention, people could just adhere to SMPTE RP 200-2002, used in theatres, to keep things uniform. - And to address RezJ's points - obviously mastering doesn't eliminate dynamics in music - compression of clipped tracks does. By definition it eliminates the songwriter's ability to create lows and highs, because it's eliminating the dynamics. - Why am I forced to listen only to Jazz, Blues and Classics to enjoy dynamics in music? Case in point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iW0nUcyUvs An alternate master of RHCP 'Californicataion', which sounds infinitely better than the bastardized, overly compressed pile of crap that Rick Rubin released. Sorry, I know this is all OT, but I really enjoy the TSL4 theme from a creative standpoint. I just can't stand hearing clipping and compression artifacts. I'll stop derailing things. It's not off topic if it relates to the production ;P I'll just say though I think this is something that completely relies on personal taste, and the style of music being played. I have to point out that a lot of the players ability to create dynamic lows and highs will be expressed a LOT in the timbre of the sound, not just if the sound is at a higher volume or lower volume. When the whole soundscape is based off of distorted guitar and the sound is pretty hard, the level of dynamics in the song will already be a lot more minimal than even an acoustic song, so I mastered according to that. I'm not saying by any means what I did is perfect (and there definitely are artifacts from the compression, for example the very ending note where the crash hits and the rest of the sound ducks just a tad) but I think it's justifiable to use a fair amount of compression at the end of the day. | ||
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ColdLava
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On August 20 2012 10:32 Gosi wrote: What is your hockey team? ![[image loading]](http://www.suhaag.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/mapleleafs.gif) | ||
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TigerKarl
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Sad thing's just that the remaining Ro4 Players don't have much of a story the tell so this unfortunatelly this TSL4 won't be remembered like TSL3 did, it's just going to be another Tournament like IPL3 where hardly anybody remembers which of these exchangable second tier koreans actually won. | ||
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I'm sorry. | ||
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