Scrap station isn't really zerg favored anymore....

But LT the drops can be bad at the cliffs yes but its not that bad especially compared to maps like Delta/Steppes.

BlinkGosu

United States46 Posts

January 02 2011 00:36 GMT

#68

how do we sign up or enter the tournament..... i have no clue and i've been looking around for quite a while

darklordjac

Canada2231 Posts

January 02 2011 00:37 GMT

#69

On January 02 2011 09:36 BlinkGosu wrote:
how do we sign up or enter the tournament..... i have no clue and i've been looking around for quite a while

It's just the TL opens. Sign up for those and win for a spot.

integral

United States3156 Posts

January 02 2011 00:38 GMT

#70

Thanks for responding, I have more clarity now about the vision of TSL and its intentions to become an international tournament. I still can't say I'm happy about this change, though. I'm also curious as to what the stance of the general TL public would be if feedback were invited on the idea of whether to include koreans before the decision were made. I'm sure it would have been controversial.

I'm disappointed about the tournament, sure, but I think there's something larger for me lurking behind this -- maybe I'm just some nostalgic conservative at heart, but I really don't like the direction teamliquid is going with its intended vision of growth and expansion. I think I liked everthing here a little bit better when it felt like a smaller, tight-knit community of people who loved some obscure ten year old game. With the BW scene starting to feel pretty different to me now -- everyone talking about and playing SC2, considerable stream issues for brood war matches, players retiring, teams dissolving, the whole match fixing scandal, not to mention Blizzard vs. Kespa and all that related shit -- even subtle changes on TL (like the facebook/twitter/youtube buttons, TL getting a sponsor, a headquarters in New York) have been increasingly making me feel like both the game and community I love are gradually becoming something I will no longer enjoy. I love broodwar and I love TL and I'd hate to see it ruined by well-intentioned visions of growth and progress.

Remains to be seen. Happy new year everyone.

Node

United States2159 Posts

January 02 2011 02:27 GMT

#71

Honestly dude, what you're saying is just the tired "the small, independent thing I love is growing up / becoming popular / getting sponsors / getting money" argument. I've heard the same thing in the context of bands, TV shows, movies, you name it. Are the times a-changin'? You bet. Is it for the better? I think so. You may disagree, but for the scene as a whole the international unity and popularity that SC2 has been bringing is a net positive.

I'm happy to see these big decisions made for TSL3, and I certainly hope Team Liquid continues to be the face of the international gaming community. I think it's doing what it takes to make that happen.

jalstar

United States8198 Posts

January 02 2011 02:37 GMT

#72

What's the format of the tournament? Single elimination all the way? Group stages at the beginning? Double elimination?

Are you concerned with the brackets for the TL Opens filling up too fast? The Craft Cup, a $20 tournament, caps out at 1024 players. Why would a satellite to a $34000 tournament cap out at 512?

Creegz

Canada354 Posts

January 02 2011 03:00 GMT

#73

I would like to know, what would the times be for the US ones? I live in British Columbia, and I work from 10 to 6:30 PST, getting home at around 7 or so PST. Would I be able to compete or would I be outside the times? Post answer here or PM me, or both, doesn't matter, I will try and keep up with the thread.

blade55555

United States17423 Posts

January 02 2011 05:09 GMT

#74

On January 02 2011 12:00 Creegz wrote:
I would like to know, what would the times be for the US ones? I live in British Columbia, and I work from 10 to 6:30 PST, getting home at around 7 or so PST. Would I be able to compete or would I be outside the times? Post answer here or PM me, or both, doesn't matter, I will try and keep up with the thread.

If their doing the same as before it will be 12 pm EST, 10 am mountain time.Dunno if you would be too late or not though

Creegz

Canada354 Posts

January 02 2011 06:27 GMT

#75

On January 02 2011 14:09 blade55555 wrote:

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If their doing the same as before it will be 12 pm EST, 10 am mountain time.Dunno if you would be too late or not though

Sounds like I would be. Kinda sucks that most tourneys are on Saturdays

I'll never get to attend unless they're Sunday.

surprise

Germany38 Posts

January 02 2011 11:09 GMT

#76

I must say I am really pumped for the TLS 3.
The second one was epic and I expect the third to even surpass it :-D

What I am wondering though about the point system:

Being 16th twice is worth more than being fifth once?
I understand the idea behind the system (reward players who play constantly well), but I wonder if e.g. placing fifth isn't actually worth more than scoring 16th twice.

Carnac

Germany / USA16648 Posts

January 02 2011 11:30 GMT

#77

there is no 1 by 1 ranking below 4th. 5th-8th are equal, just as 9th-16th are.
5th -8thjust means lost in 1/4-finals (round 6 in a 512 player bracket) and 9th-16th means lost in 1/8-finals (round 7 in a 512 player bracket).
so all it actually means is that reaching the 6th round twice is worth more than reaching the 7th round once, which I think is fair, as it rewards consistency over having a lucky draw once

Mortician

Bulgaria2332 Posts

January 02 2011 13:15 GMT

#78

I have a question to ask.

Koreans/Chinese were not allowed to participate in previous TSLs because of the skill of the former and the lag issues of the latter. BUT, SEn and F91 were allowed to play from outside of China. So, I am asking, why don't we allow Chinese and Koreans to play IF they can communicate with the admins and other players?

crazeman

664 Posts

January 02 2011 18:45 GMT

#79

I'm just curious about this, but AFAIK (haven't kept up with the rules) a foreigner is automatically qualified in GSL Code A tournament if he wins a major foreign tournament. Do you know if the TSL3 qualify as a major foreign tournament to gomtv?

I guess this is more of a question to gomtv's side but if it does count, that just makes winning even better.

surprise

Germany38 Posts

January 02 2011 20:49 GMT

#80

On January 02 2011 20:30 Carnac wrote:
there is no 1 by 1 ranking below 4th. 5th-8th are equal, just as 9th-16th are.
5th -8thjust means lost in 1/4-finals (round 6 in a 512 player bracket) and 9th-16th means lost in 1/8-finals (round 7 in a 512 player bracket).
so all it actually means is that reaching the 6th round twice is worth more than reaching the 7th round once, which I think is fair, as it rewards consistency over having a lucky draw once

Ah, makes it a lot clearer, thanks for the explanation! :-)