EPT[spoilers]TSL Was Great! - Page 2
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Too_MuchZerg
Finland2818 Posts
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minus_human
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Golden Ghost
Netherlands1041 Posts
Every cast I had around 10 people over to watch the games on my big TV screen and we all had a blast every time so TL your mission of entertaining me and my friends is totally accomplished. I just kicked the last ones out and they made me promise to host them again next TSL. Edit: Ow and this match was absolutely final worthy. Great games and very good commentary. | ||
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MannerMan
371 Posts
On March 01 2010 07:52 Hot_Bid wrote: Secondly, I feel that errors are magnified, since things going right is the "norm." For instance, a situation where users helped us improve was the thread about obs/caster coordination (criticizing us). It was something we definitely improved upon as the tournament went along. Our obs, casters, and others really focused on this problem. We may have argued with one or two bad apples who were being idiots in the thread, but we did accept the point -- the obs/caster sync had to get better. And it did, as evidenced by the lack of comment/complaint about it ever since then. Once it got better, nobody mentioned it again (as expected). Another example would be the mass of people claiming "imba!! idra and ret shouldn't play, they are progamers, its completely not fair and none of the other players have a chance." Now, those people look pretty stupid, but obviously they aren't going to make a thread "Sorry for whining so much, I was wrong to say other players had no chance against these two." Similarly, nobody is going to make a thread "wow the caster audio didn't drop at all during semis and finals!" because these sorts of things only get highlighted when things go wrong. All that said, we enjoyed it tremendously. It was a huge learning experience for us as well, and I'm sure the next TSL (whether its for SC2 or not) will have another great leap forward in every aspect. I'm also very happy PS sponsored us -- they were the perfect sponsor. They were very professional, worked with us on many things, and let us sort through any errors we had. Thanks to them, and of course to everyone that watched. I completely agree, and I did post about how good the observers had gotten in these recent games. I'll repost it here so that perhaps people can think about the drastic improvement and maybe the volunteer team can enjoy the fruits of their labor (our enjoyment) On March 01 2010 07:53 MannerMan wrote: Just want to mention how good the observing was these last few weekends. During the RO16 there was tons of criticism on the observer, and I myself thought it was extremely bad, I noticed things a ton of times on the minimap that the observer wasn't cognizant of. Everything was completely turned around after that criticism and the observation was as near perfect as I think it could have been. I just wanted to make sure this was said, even if it might not reach the intended target. Amazing event. Can't thank everybody involved enough. | ||
JWD
United States12607 Posts
Fantastic job guys, seriously. Wish I could've helped more. | ||
Hot_Bid
Braavos36402 Posts
On March 01 2010 08:05 MannerMan wrote: I completely agree, and I did post about how good the observers had gotten in these recent games. I'll repost it here so that perhaps people can think about the drastic improvement and maybe the volunteer team can enjoy the fruits of their labor (our enjoyment) Thanks for your positive comment. I want to clarify what I said, I mean it's completely fine that people don't point out the obs improving -- it's completely fine to expect our obs to be great. Thus, once our obs improved, and we saw no complaints, that was a clear message to us that it was better. | ||
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CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
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BroOd
Austin10833 Posts
On March 01 2010 09:15 CDRdude wrote: Overall, I think I might prefer a bo5 finals in the future, to the bo7 we had today. I don't have much of a reason why, I liked all the games, I just think bo5s are more common and accepted in starcraft. haha, that's... pretty weird man. | ||
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Kuri
Canada88 Posts
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Nal_rAwr
United States2611 Posts
but all the problems made it kind of NATE MSL FINALS-like, kind of shabby but still a great event | ||
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Intr3pid
Switzerland336 Posts
 EffOrt. | ||
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Fzero
United States1503 Posts
On March 01 2010 08:10 Hot_Bid wrote: Thanks for your positive comment. I want to clarify what I said, I mean it's completely fine that people don't point out the obs improving -- it's completely fine to expect our obs to be great. Thus, once our obs improved, and we saw no complaints, that was a clear message to us that it was better. Often the observers were looking at things the caster wasn't seeing that were important to the match. I was very happy with observers, especially when casters would go off on tangents because they weren't following the nuances of the game. | ||
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SleepSheep
Canada344 Posts
On March 01 2010 10:02 Fzero wrote: Often the observers were looking at things the caster wasn't seeing that were important to the match. I was very happy with observers, especially when casters would go off on tangents because they weren't following the nuances of the game. yeah that's gonna be unavoidable with the current set up because of the nature of not have all the casters in the same place. in order for that to not be a problem they'd need to do something like stream just for the commentators for a consistent video, and then from that have another stream directed at the audience. you'd always need an extremely good observer directing it all; one benefit of this set up is the commentators can look around for themselves and it's probably gives their commentary an extra edge in terms of strategy since they'll have a better sense of what's going on. | ||
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duckett
United States589 Posts
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Chef
10810 Posts
 On the negative, I felt tasteless and artosis sometimes didn't take the cast as seriously as I would have liked (probably due to lack of sleep), and that made it harder to really care about the results of the games. I think their kind of casts would be more appropriate for the earlier stages of the tournament, but when there is 1000 dollars starting to be on the line every game, I prefer intensity over old jokes and memes. I did think they did quite a good job, but this is where I found them lacking. Day9 was quite entertaining too, but I felt some of his tangents were a bit distracting. His talk about how nervous and crazy the players must be feeling would have been better suited to the pre-game, rather than during the game. It's okay to mention it for 10 seconds during the game, but when you go on for a minute about it I start wanting to say "I know! I know! I've been following TSL for over a month!" During worker split is fine too, just don't do this in the mid game haha.. Of course these are just my opinions and preferences. I'm super grateful to all the work that was put in, and for everyone who made my weekends a little more exciting I also thought the obsing was spot on during the finals, which makes me happy since that's such a significant part of the experience. | ||
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duckhunt
Canada311 Posts
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besiger
Croatia2452 Posts
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Count9
China10928 Posts
OT: TSL kicked so much ass. Have never been so hyped up by a foreign tourney. | ||
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
Overall, the TSL was a great tournament and I barely have any complaints. | ||
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
On March 01 2010 10:31 duckhunt wrote: WHY WERE THE FINALS ON AT THE SAME TIME AS THE CANADA VS OLYMPIC HOCKEY GAME? OMG;;;;; i only saw the first 2 games of mondi vs nony lame Real SC players multitask. Chill was casting and watching it at same time haha. | ||
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