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Not_Computer
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada2277 Posts
June 14 2013 05:16 GMT
#41
If we decide to do ewar other than target painting Bellicose, I highly recommend the use of damps. It counters the few threats of an Oracle gang (eg. sniper battleships/tier3 sitting on station/gate and other ewar such as rapiers/huginns/falcons/rooks/arazu/lachesis/pilgrim/curse).

During the December H-W battle and EC- battle I used a long range nano Celestis. Was able to damp a Rook to being useless (<26km lock range according to pyfa) and damped a Tornado that was trying to separate us forcing it to either ram us or disengage. Also saved people that were longpointed by Drakes: "Oh god help I'm pointed by... oh, I'm not pointed anymore..." etc.

+ Show Spoiler [Celestis] +
[Celestis, 3xDamps LR]

Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Signal Amplifier II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Damage Control II

Large Shield Extender II
Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening Script
Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening Script
Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening Script
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I

Medium YF-12a Smartbomb
Medium Rudimentary Concussion Bomb I
Drone Link Augmentor II

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Vespa EC-600 x5

Note: Tank is in case of sticky situations such as jumping into enemy gang, otherwise could put ewar rigs and cap booster. Smartbombs are for drone swarms, cause that's pretty much your only threat. EC-600s cause dishonor.


Keep in mind I was doing this all safely from around 100km away.

I proposed a while back (like, during ATX era) of using ewar frigates when light tackle isn't necessary. With the recent patches, Tracking Disruptors and Sensor Dampeners are becoming quite common and rage inducing lately. Which brings me to the Maulus and Crucifier.

The Maulus is pretty straight forward. Not only does it go really fast, but unlike the Celestis, it has insane agility, which is useful if you are using a tackle Maulus or even just in regular scenarios of elite nano.

+ Show Spoiler [[Maulus, With Point] +
][Maulus, With Point]

Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II
Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening Script
Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening Script

125mm Railgun II, Spike S
125mm Railgun II, Spike S

Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Small Inverted Signal Field Projector I
Small Ionic Field Projector I


Hornet EC-300 x4

+ Show Spoiler [[Maulus, With Tank] +
][Maulus, With Tank]

Damage Control II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Medium Shield Extender II
Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening Script
Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening Script

75mm Gatling Rail II
75mm Gatling Rail II

Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Small Inverted Signal Field Projector I
Small Ionic Field Projector I


Hornet EC-300 x4


Even with an MSE, Maulus are paper tanked, AKA, do not fly through 200 clicks of space directly into a wall of gunfire.

The Crucifier is less interesting because TDs only affect turret ships, which isn't useful against the currently popular Talwar and Caracal doctrines. Nonetheless any turret ship that is double bonused Tracking Disrupted does no damage to a nano gang. That and TDs have better projection than Damps.

+ Show Spoiler +
[Crucifier, 2xTD With MSE]

Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Damage Control II

Medium Shield Extender II
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption Script
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption Script
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I

E5 Prototype Energy Vampire
5W Infectious Power System Malfunction

Small Tracking Diagnostic Subroutines I
Small Ionic Field Projector I
Small Ionic Field Projector I


Hornet EC-300 x3
Hobgoblin II x3
Warrior II x3


Kwark had an alternative fit to this concept, but this is my original concept fit from pre-NEO. I've only flown it a couple times (where it didn't really do much) but from fighting unbonused TDs with a turret ship (ie. TD Slashers) I must say TDs can be pretty frustrating.

Both my Maulus and Crucifier fits are range-tanked and designed to project comfortably at 55-90km (Maulus) and 100-140km (Crucifier) without links.
"Jaedong hyung better be ready. I'm going to order the most expensive dinner in Korea."
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
June 14 2013 06:50 GMT
#42
I'm not sure we have the player count to the point where using ewar frigs is pilot-efficient.
?
artynko
Profile Joined November 2010
Slovakia86 Posts
June 14 2013 07:42 GMT
#43
EU TZ,

Can fly caracal and navy osprey (although not many of these since I am a poor newbie)
I have far from perfect skills mostly IV with exception of those that were needed for T2 launchers and caldari cruiser V

I could probably train minmatar to fly bellicose if that still works with lower skills
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43201 Posts
June 14 2013 08:34 GMT
#44
Moved to Station - Fobiner VII - Moon 13 - Civic Court Tribunal due to repair and cloning, 2j from previous station.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43201 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 08:52:34
June 14 2013 08:52 GMT
#45
Moved 30 ships into position in Fobiner, 5 SyFis, 5 Nosprey, 10 bellicose, 10 oracle. Will be for sale overpriced out there. Also 1j away is a good seeded market for test. Move down at your leisure, if you want your own stuff then free couriers from Jita (or anywhere else, sara/assah/whatever) out there are happening, contract to kuchisa.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
June 14 2013 13:50 GMT
#46
stuff not at karan that is useful to have:

CN scourge light
FOF lights
synth crash
?
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19150 Posts
June 14 2013 13:55 GMT
#47
Waiting for an exit I can use. Decided to bring out secundus for this. Maybe Hekki too.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43201 Posts
June 14 2013 20:42 GMT
#48
So many good fights today and the locals are so awful. In one fight I fucked up and got scrammed by a ranis and they warped an untanked rail talos to me at 20km followed by a thorax in low armour (warped out 30 secs earlier) followed by a hound. Switched to conflag and alphaed each of them in turn. Couldn't do anything about the ranis so I still died but who the fuck gets a ranis tackled onto an oracle with nothing else on grid and then still loses three more ships trying to kill it?
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
June 14 2013 21:37 GMT
#49
EU TZ

I can bring the caracal doctrine you listed
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
June 15 2013 00:01 GMT
#50
never thought i'd say this. if the main problem is fast tackle -

proteus linked blackbird
?
Not_Computer
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada2277 Posts
June 15 2013 04:02 GMT
#51
Bring spare modules for noobship fleet.
"Jaedong hyung better be ready. I'm going to order the most expensive dinner in Korea."
Reborn8u
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1761 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-16 03:18:48
June 16 2013 03:09 GMT
#52
As always, I'm late to the party. I'll bring some bellicose, osprey fleet, and griffins. I have a few other fun ships I've had a lot of good times with in my FW mucking about. Hope to see you soon. Is the station in the op accurate? I'll probably stick mostly to the bellicose, as I am most confident in flying that (or griffens ez mode lol) Might try some ospreys, but honestly the damn thing is so fast and I have a bad habit of misclicking or just being retarded, at that speed who knows where I'll end up, haha.
:)
Omigawa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1556 Posts
June 16 2013 09:49 GMT
#53
Kwark are you still offering JF services?
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43201 Posts
June 16 2013 10:02 GMT
#54
Yes, bought a new rhea.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Omigawa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1556 Posts
June 16 2013 10:20 GMT
#55
courier contract to kuchisa?
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43201 Posts
June 16 2013 10:26 GMT
#56
yes
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Omigawa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1556 Posts
June 16 2013 10:28 GMT
#57
k, ty
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
June 17 2013 00:27 GMT
#58
I'll pack and move when I'm not tired as shit
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
s0Li
Profile Joined September 2010
United States406 Posts
June 19 2013 01:30 GMT
#59
Kwark this is jed, where my stuff at?
I don't wanna hear excuses, I wanna hear solutions...
Gemini3
Profile Joined June 2013
9 Posts
June 19 2013 22:07 GMT
#60
Do i still get hate-on? thought of coming back into the game
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