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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 18 2011 17:20 GMT
#7981
Could you please add a link to the thread that got you the warning? I want to read the whole thing myself. You've been around since 2002 and I respect you for that a lot.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
June 18 2011 17:23 GMT
#7982
ya, http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=234311

I made 3 posts on that thread, he warned me after them, which means he should have seen all my posts in that thread before he did the warning.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 18 2011 17:32 GMT
#7983
What a quagmire. I completely agree with your sentiments on desrow but i'm not entirely sure a blog he made parody'ing the i cheesed kas blog was the absolute right place to drive it home like that. But at the same time... I don't think you should have been warned. It should have just been a pm instead of a warning in my opinion.

Even though some days I wish to be a mod, I don't envy the difficulty.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 18 2011 17:48 GMT
#7984
On June 19 2011 01:25 Drazerk wrote:
Just noticed Torte has been playing 2 v 2 and massed scouts which killed the drone in his Icon although his post count is still diminishing

Most useless unit ftw


I think it's a symbol of how the mods see me on the forums.
Useless (considering the fact that I set myself to Zerg, yet I'm still a scout).
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25981 Posts
June 18 2011 19:25 GMT
#7985
On June 19 2011 02:13 rei wrote:
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From: CTStalker [ 8618 posts | Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: Warning!
Date: 6/17/11 23:22
This is a Warning!

Desrow go spend more effort in getting better than bragging, it doesn't matter how much attention you get, how many practice game you manage to take off your practice partners that you post, at the end of the day your tournament results is what determines how good you are. Before you win anything you are like the rest of us, a piece of trash compare to the likes of idra.

You were alright until you called him (and the rest of us LOL??) a piece of trash compared to Idra. Respect other posters please.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation,
CTStalker


I PMed CTStalker but he never reply back after a day, I check his recent posts on TL and it shown that he has been posting after I PMed him meaning he's ignoring my pm while making other posts on TL. So I'm posting this here.

My issue with this warning is that he warm me by taking my words out of context, The context here is comparing tournament achievements. I quoted desrow's achievement in TLPD and then compare that with Idra's achievement, and I make an observable factual statement(which can be proven true with other observer in a different time) that the rest of us are trash in terms of achievement compare to idra's achievement. Only thing can be argue here is my words that describes the gap between achievement, it was not meant for insult, it's aim for emphasis of the gap.

I agree that my wording might be a little off in conveying my ideas in that post, I tried to be as constructive as possible to desrow considering the bad taste between him and me, CTStaker at least should have the decency to reply to me, I been with TL since 2002, one of the first members of the community, i deserve better than ignoring of my PM from an TL mod.

This warning is 100% fine.
Moderator
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 19:32:35
June 18 2011 19:30 GMT
#7986
why, and what about ignoring of my pm? mods should hold themselves to a higher standard than to make a fallacy of straw-man by taking words out of context.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
June 18 2011 19:50 GMT
#7987
"Xodiac was just temp banned for 1 week by Chill.

That account was created on 2004-09-30 08:57:09 and had 55 posts.

Reason: Garbage post flaming Tyler."

TBH with his posts, he deserved to be perma banned.
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 19:51:28
June 18 2011 19:51 GMT
#7988
Xodiac was just temp banned for 1 week by Chill.

That account was created on 2004-09-30 08:57:09 and had 55 posts.

Reason: Garbage post flaming Tyler.

Post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=234520&currentpage=410#8189


Sometimes I hate spending all my time in Live report threads ...
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
June 18 2011 19:53 GMT
#7989
On June 19 2011 04:51 Drazerk wrote:
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Xodiac was just temp banned for 1 week by Chill.

That account was created on 2004-09-30 08:57:09 and had 55 posts.

Reason: Garbage post flaming Tyler.

Post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=234520&currentpage=410#8189


Sometimes I hate spending all my time in Live report threads ...

you are the only hope in actual LR though!
Elasticity
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
3420 Posts
June 18 2011 19:57 GMT
#7990
On June 19 2011 04:53 Whole wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 04:51 Drazerk wrote:
Xodiac was just temp banned for 1 week by Chill.

That account was created on 2004-09-30 08:57:09 and had 55 posts.

Reason: Garbage post flaming Tyler.

Post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=234520&currentpage=410#8189


Sometimes I hate spending all my time in Live report threads ...

you are the only hope in actual LR though!

what he said. Just think about the people that can't watch and have to read (live or after the match already done). Your work helped me a ton already
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 18 2011 19:59 GMT
#7991
Whole isn't kidding. You're one of the handful of people I actively make sure to read even if the thread jumps 5 pages in 20 seconds. You, Legend, Whole, Torte and a few others are awesome posters in LR.


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sorry rei :\


I guess Xodiac is the other side of veteran status. Been here forever, always sucked.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
June 18 2011 20:03 GMT
#7992
On June 19 2011 04:59 Probe1 wrote:
Whole isn't kidding. You're one of the handful of people I actively make sure to read even if the thread jumps 5 pages in 20 seconds. You, Legend, Whole, Torte and a few others are awesome posters in LR.


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sorry rei :\


I guess Xodiac is the other side of veteran status. Been here forever, always sucked.

eh, i'm not that great. I just quote funny things that casters/players say lol. I guess I'll start trying though!
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 18 2011 20:04 GMT
#7993
Don't have to start, you already do a good job. Trust me, I'm part of the filthy masses.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Deja Thoris
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa646 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 20:23:45
June 18 2011 20:19 GMT
#7994
On June 18 2011 22:23 Plexa wrote:
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On June 18 2011 22:19 Probe1 wrote:
That's a cute letter.


I don't have any [quotes] for this one but EZPikachu was banned for selling accounts then made a final declaration that in so many words TL sucks and he is blameless.. then listed contact info for selling more accounts.

So, he knew that selling accounts was not tolerated on TL, was told not to then banned for doing it. Then he wrote a google document outlining how unfair his ban was as well as saying farewell and ended it.. with contact info for buying accounts. . . What he was banned for in the first place.

What a classy guy!

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My page if you wish to interact, I will answer all questions in the next 3 days. LINK TO HIS FACEBOOK

Nice to meet you teamliquid, thank you very much

Hi everyone I am a long time member in the Starcraft 2 community, EZSC aka Pikachu the Taiwanese caster today I would like to tell you a story about how I started to fall for the game that is indeed Starcraft II, engaged and work very hard in the community trying to bring different communities together. And how it all burn down in flames.

TL DR version:

…… I think for 10 minutes and can’t come up with a TLDR version….

If you want to know the whole story… fucking read the whole thing you lazy nerd… alright let’s make this as condensed as possible. (Turns out entire story of were 2000+ words… who give a shit... day9 daily#100 was several hours and I cried every time watching it.)

Let’s roll

In the beginning, back when I had something called real life and when huk was mannered to everyone. My first RTS sc2, I suck. Watch day9 for 3 days straight, and jump strait from bronze to high diamond (diamond was the highest league) in a four days, after finding out the secret of making probes and spend that money on everything possible as I have practiced many years in real life.

That was inspired me starting to make tutorials about the fundamentals in the most simple, easily digestible content that anyone can understand, that is when I come up with my screen name, EZSC.

LINK TO HIS FACEBOOK

^Interview with blizzard staff

Starting out as a Chinese caster putting tutorials on YouTube, I got around 2k subscriber in Taiwan sc2 community, getting blizzard featured in the Chinese SC2 community, blah blah blah.

(Apparently all you need at the time is know how to fraps and upload a video of you talking about a replay featuring yourself executing 3 rax and 4 gate, wink*.... to be fair 4 gate and 3 rax was seemingly unstoppable even at the higher level of competition... so i guess that was some accomplishment)

As I was learning more about Starcraft 2 (this is back in September – November) I realize how much content was in the western scene. I started talking the some of the important figures in the NA sc2 scene. At that time even though not many people have thought of it, I saw the gigantic potential in Western SC2 scene, both in skill and marketing opportunity.

I started talking to admin hosts in the western scene that enable to cast the following events in Chinese, so other community can share the different insight that the wonderful NA players have in the game.

Destiny Showmatch, Thundertoss Top200 koth with Ascend, All4One gaming events, Open wolf cup, Female ESL, Sagacity invitational, z33k Dailies, Zotac NA, Kingston Invitational and many others clan war and random tournaments across different communities.

I also do some translation here and there, from State of the game podcast to random post by important post from Teamliquid, translate them into chinese and post them on my facebook page.

Later on I figure this wasn’t enough, I figured the community need more than content exchanging. We need players on both sides of the scene. The events in both sides need different blood from each scene to be fully joined, because that is one of the most important aspect of community: Fans and audience.

You can’t just post on a forum,

“hey these random guys are doing something cool across the globe, come watch.”

It would work out much better if were like

“hey this white kid you’ve been follow for several month gonna participate in this contest that no one know about”

It is much better to have something an audience have comfort in watching.

IE, A lot more people will watch TeSL knowing that White-Ra will participate

Same as TW fans will watch NASL solely base on the participation of Sen

The Taiwanese Esport League that is being broadcasted on National sports TV channel would do great if there were players from the western scene, I’ve been helping the admins finding suitable tip top players from the western scene that are not bonded by contract to compete in TeSL.

Also other amateur league such as TCL were looking to arrange more foreign teams, which I have starting to schedule cross-server cw between different teams that were nothing like EG Fnatic ROOT but still show a tremendous amount of talent and skill.

I also try to work on the Female gamer part of the spectrum, namely the Female ESL Cup and Ironlady Cup. Hoping to not only join community between regions but also establish respect for one and another between sex.

Interview: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=216410

Of course I committed some wrongs in the process, which include my Justin tv getting banned for restreaming GSL since my viewership wasn’t able to understand both Korean and English so I feel obligated to restream GSL while casting the games on screen.

Also there was few hiccups in between… when you first come to NA scene no one knows you and it’s hard to start from 0 with almost no connection. With some help from the community it was definitely worth the trouble to join different communities together.

My list of content…only listing 50% or so… I’m too lazy to list a bunch of links knowing you won’t be interested anyway

LINK TO HIS FACEBOOK

Many different Articles including battle reports, Guides, content by myself/important community member translated into Chinese

I am planning on several project and ready to upload them into Teamliquid and many other forums (both Chinese/English)

Also this kick ass guide by Cecil Sunkure about “How to improve 1v1”, I’ve work on the mechnics part for a long time and listed as one of the additional authors

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=208343

Which I recommend to everyone who did is not yet playing at a high master level, but tbh I still think there’s a lot of the content can benefit professional players as well.

Okay so everything looks great, wtf is your problem?

During the time I was also helping players in the NA scene getting Korean account. Had no problem doing it, was something on the side, never intend to make money of it. Seen this transaction part of my journey to bring different scenes together, I went on did it.

Had great buyers feedback, at that time I know doing this was wrong but there was a really big demand from top players in the community, for many of them I cannot name. Thus I continue to do this.

Buyers Feedback:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=212750#16

At one point I saw a post

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=229884

Seeing this guy was ripping people off with 130+ USD per Korean account, I precede to pm few of the people in the thread saying there is a lot of seller I know including me that would do it for way less.

Later on I got reported for doing so and was permanently banned from Teamliquid.net.

I know the transgressions I have committed was very regretful and decide to take this ban for two weeks. While getting rid of the Korean Accounts and decide not to do it anymore.

I fully apologized sincerely in many of my pm’s and emails.

After getting rid of the whole selling Korean account system (last account gave away to a FXO member for raw price, btw) I contacted Teamliquid under the “contact us” link.

They respond me with an email saying

“Hi,

Please PM the moderator that banned you.

Regards,

TL Staff

”

-I then find IntoTheWow on IRC, which is the mod that perma banned me.

<IntoTheWow> I told you my decision was final

<IntoTheWow> and if you think it was unfair

<IntoTheWow> you could PM another mod.

Jibba: Sorry it took a while for me to get back to you. Honestly, this is something you should probably take to Hot_Bid.

Hot_Bid: ( He did not respond to me……. Yet)

Chill: I don't really see your point. It's common knowledge that it's against the rules to sell accounts-everyone knows this.


I don't like that you're pasting the same message to every mod on this website.

For my defense…. I only paste it to another mod after a while knowing that I might have been ignored, since that’s what many of them did when I approach them in the teamliquid IRC.

At the same time I was trying to get myself unbanned, so I can list my stream when casting listed Teamliquid calendar events, so I was a little bit impatient…. Sorry for not waiting a week when I have a project due/content upload in several hours….

I pm’d Chill back and he later swiftly, (btw kudos for replying in a timely manner), saying:

Chill: There's a thread about it and we decides not to unban you. Sorry.



Q&A (READ THIS SHIT IF YOU ARE GOING TO POST)

Oblivious reddit/Teamliquid reader: Why do u have to give up/leave? Don’t you still have a sc2 account? Jtv account? Facebook? Wellplay tv? Youtube? Game cast tv? You can still make content on those sites and stream, it’s not like you are banned from any of those right? Wtf is the big deal that you have to come and post a huge thread whining about your perma ban at TL, can’t you make another account if you want?

EZPikachu: Let me answer you noob…

First of all, perma ban means your ip is banned so whatever account I come up with gets perma banned right away. (… make me feel like a mod knowing w/e account I desire to use will get perma banned instantly)

Idra got banned, idra mad can’t stream, rage on twitter having fan spam chill inbox, same situation? NO

Speaking of listing stream, you need the consent and approval of teamliquid administrator, which chill and other administrators (who all agreed on not unbanning me, ha.ha ) will be handling, further saying that create a new account won’t work.

I also need to fulfill the sponsors and admin/hosts requirement, for publicity, which is listing my stream to the event and able to post on the TL forum.

I don’t really spend majority of my time in SC2 anymore… my game is in the community bridging people together. And I have lost my place for the above reasons.

Unless you’re a player or a lurker…especially being a caster/event broadcaster / content maker there’s no place for you in the sc2 community once you’re banned from the prime forum that is TL.

I am not overreacting to this decision from TL staff; of course there are ways to continue my work in SC2, but the trouble is too big for it to be an effective investment, I choose to not going over the troubles,

and finally, I don’t expect anyone to fully understand the impact of this decision (aka I don’t give a shit what you think if you… can’t think).


Final words:

I have gave up hope on this community which offered no chance and full of power hungry control freak administrator which carry out their executions very well to regulate our community.

I am also pretty distressed that countless hrs of my work have been disregard or...simply outweigh by the fact I did violated the some terms to help players play on other reigns.

Due to respect to my friends previously in this community, including Chill, please donnot bother TeamLiquid Admins about this; they have better things to do, I am sure there’s many others member in the community they need to give permanent bans to.

Pretty funny though... I spend 8+ hours a day on average sometimes 16+ If I can afford it …. Working with a very wide spectrum of people within the sc2 community...

Have no other life and friends out side of sc2 after spending this much time for several months.. look where it got me...

Maybe I deserve it after all... I’ll go pick up a job and spend more time in school now.

Later fellas,

Best wishes

Pikachu-EZSC

Fun fact about permanent ban:

Not only when the account get perma banned when you use it, but whenever you try to sign in with your banned account, teamliquid prompts you to the Disney Homepage, Probably inferring you are too childish to stay in this community. Maybe I am, who knows, sorry to waste your time if I sound like a childish whiny sucker who can’t deal with his own problem.

NO I will not be doing any work related to SC2 at all, terminating all previous arrangement and connection with the community, move on with my life.

Apologize to every single project/event that I’ve agreed to work on, too many to list and I am running out of patience to list them.

I can still get you Korean accounts (same fast secure transaction as always ofc)….add my email/skype/msn to have me assist you get one.

CONTACT INFORMATION HERE

(post edit: yeah I ofc it look bad still offering this, fuck it i guess,

Everyone go bug a korean friend who don’t ever want to play starcraft II ever and give you their KSSN along with helping you register the account + verify it with a correct korean name registered cellphone or back account I did try completely stopping to sell but as you’ve seen... it did not matter at all)

Reply to fans and everyone:

I wasn’t really disturb by teamliquid’s decision. Maybe besides the first 1 hour

The admin were doing their job, I have committed wrong and they did what they HAVE TO DO to take care of this issue.

I only use teamliquid as a tool, an irreplaceable tool btw, and now this tool is broken, my trade is done. I do don’t see this as overaction on my part. I did have several days to rethink about this decision.

EZSC: Nice to meet you teamliquid, fuck you and fuck you very much.
^( post edit: yeah this looks oddly contradicting and childish but I am not gonna edit out the emotion I had temporarily knowing my input have been over weighed by the contribution I can give)

Thanks to every single one of the person listed in this list, they have guide and assist me in many ways that will turn in to 20+ pages of text if I were to thank them fully.

I regret to drag every person into this negative article but I feel obligated to show my appreciation in my farwell

Include but not limited to:

Kawaiirice, miDnightsc, Wolf, Ascend, Thundertoss, JoemanSC, TheGunrun, ONEwbc. Steven Bonnell, Spazzer, FXOtgun, CellaWerra, CecilSunkure, ONEFireflash, Qbaby, Cheekyduck, Gretorp,NASL staff, Acelesson, z33k admins, TCL admins, TeSL admin and coaches, Zotac admins, Vampirelady, kiwiclonearmy,Team oTL, Team vG, Fox, Megumixbear, VTdesrow, ŞhųŞhı Kıņg SCıı and Leo the blizzard community staff.


Classy indeed.



Dunno. I've crossed paths with people like that in RL. Charismatic, well connected but shysters all the same. I guess the admins did the cost / benefit on keeping him around but sometimes those people can be good for the community if kept on a tight leash. As to the 173 PM's. It's been his life for a while. He's entitled to go the whole hog?

Anyway, I'm not questioning the admins decision in any way, I guess I'm just saying I read that whole thing with no preconceptions and I didn't find it that bad. It seemed to me to be a guy who does some good to the community with dodgy tendencies.
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
June 18 2011 20:24 GMT
#7995
NickelStarCraft was just banned by EvilTeletubby.

That account was created on 2011-06-06 21:05:23 and had 26 posts.

Reason: Previously banned user. Wait out your goddamn ban duration.

To make it worse, you just did the SAME THING YOU WERE BANNED FOR ON YOUR MAIN ACCOUNT. Christ, how fucking retarded are you?


eloquent as allways
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 20:46:33
June 18 2011 20:45 GMT
#7996
On June 19 2011 05:19 Deja Thoris wrote:

Dunno. I've crossed paths with people like that in RL. Charismatic, well connected but shysters all the same. I guess the admins did the cost / benefit on keeping him around but sometimes those people can be good for the community if kept on a tight leash. As to the 173 PM's. It's been his life for a while. He's entitled to go the whole hog?

Anyway, I'm not questioning the admins decision in any way, I guess I'm just saying I read that whole thing with no preconceptions and I didn't find it that bad. It seemed to me to be a guy who does some good to the community with dodgy tendencies.


Without making ridiculous analogies, I'd simply say he was breaking rules with blatant disregard, with intent to break them. In this situation, I think you'd have to know the back story (which I still fully don't) before understanding fully why he was banned.


clickrush, succinct and funny as always.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 21:18:39
June 18 2011 21:18 GMT
#7997
On June 19 2011 02:13 rei wrote:
My issue with this warning is that he warm me by taking my words out of context,

.....

I agree that my wording might be a little off in conveying my ideas in that post,


You answered your own question right here.

This is a blatantly appropriate warning. And you want to throw your tenure around as something to suggest you deserve special treatment - I agree, that's why you received a warning and not a temp ban.

For what it's worth, I'm in the same boat quite a bit (you see, almost EVERYONE disagrees with any warning/temp/ban they receive, no matter how obviously appropriate it is [such as your case]). I try to reply, but admit I do not reply to every one of them. Sometimes I don't have the time for an appropriate reply, sometimes I just don't think it'll lead to anything positive (ie, someone is not PMing to ACTUALLY learn why they were warned/banned, they just want to bitch about it).

Anyways... it's a warning, take it in stride.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
GoSuSocrates
Profile Joined March 2011
206 Posts
June 18 2011 21:18 GMT
#7998
On June 18 2011 23:21 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 22:23 Plexa wrote:
On June 18 2011 22:19 Probe1 wrote:
That's a cute letter.


I don't have any [quotes] for this one but EZPikachu was banned for selling accounts then made a final declaration that in so many words TL sucks and he is blameless.. then listed contact info for selling more accounts.

So, he knew that selling accounts was not tolerated on TL, was told not to then banned for doing it. Then he wrote a google document outlining how unfair his ban was as well as saying farewell and ended it.. with contact info for buying accounts. . . What he was banned for in the first place.

What a classy guy!

My page if you wish to interact, I will answer all questions in the next 3 days. LINK TO HIS FACEBOOK

Nice to meet you teamliquid, thank you very much

Hi everyone I am a long time member in the Starcraft 2 community, EZSC aka Pikachu the Taiwanese caster today I would like to tell you a story about how I started to fall for the game that is indeed Starcraft II, engaged and work very hard in the community trying to bring different communities together. And how it all burn down in flames.

TL DR version:

…… I think for 10 minutes and can’t come up with a TLDR version….

If you want to know the whole story… fucking read the whole thing you lazy nerd… alright let’s make this as condensed as possible. (Turns out entire story of were 2000+ words… who give a shit... day9 daily#100 was several hours and I cried every time watching it.)

Let’s roll

In the beginning, back when I had something called real life and when huk was mannered to everyone. My first RTS sc2, I suck. Watch day9 for 3 days straight, and jump strait from bronze to high diamond (diamond was the highest league) in a four days, after finding out the secret of making probes and spend that money on everything possible as I have practiced many years in real life.

That was inspired me starting to make tutorials about the fundamentals in the most simple, easily digestible content that anyone can understand, that is when I come up with my screen name, EZSC.

LINK TO HIS FACEBOOK

^Interview with blizzard staff

Starting out as a Chinese caster putting tutorials on YouTube, I got around 2k subscriber in Taiwan sc2 community, getting blizzard featured in the Chinese SC2 community, blah blah blah.

(Apparently all you need at the time is know how to fraps and upload a video of you talking about a replay featuring yourself executing 3 rax and 4 gate, wink*.... to be fair 4 gate and 3 rax was seemingly unstoppable even at the higher level of competition... so i guess that was some accomplishment)

As I was learning more about Starcraft 2 (this is back in September – November) I realize how much content was in the western scene. I started talking the some of the important figures in the NA sc2 scene. At that time even though not many people have thought of it, I saw the gigantic potential in Western SC2 scene, both in skill and marketing opportunity.

I started talking to admin hosts in the western scene that enable to cast the following events in Chinese, so other community can share the different insight that the wonderful NA players have in the game.

Destiny Showmatch, Thundertoss Top200 koth with Ascend, All4One gaming events, Open wolf cup, Female ESL, Sagacity invitational, z33k Dailies, Zotac NA, Kingston Invitational and many others clan war and random tournaments across different communities.

I also do some translation here and there, from State of the game podcast to random post by important post from Teamliquid, translate them into chinese and post them on my facebook page.

Later on I figure this wasn’t enough, I figured the community need more than content exchanging. We need players on both sides of the scene. The events in both sides need different blood from each scene to be fully joined, because that is one of the most important aspect of community: Fans and audience.

You can’t just post on a forum,

“hey these random guys are doing something cool across the globe, come watch.”

It would work out much better if were like

“hey this white kid you’ve been follow for several month gonna participate in this contest that no one know about”

It is much better to have something an audience have comfort in watching.

IE, A lot more people will watch TeSL knowing that White-Ra will participate

Same as TW fans will watch NASL solely base on the participation of Sen

The Taiwanese Esport League that is being broadcasted on National sports TV channel would do great if there were players from the western scene, I’ve been helping the admins finding suitable tip top players from the western scene that are not bonded by contract to compete in TeSL.

Also other amateur league such as TCL were looking to arrange more foreign teams, which I have starting to schedule cross-server cw between different teams that were nothing like EG Fnatic ROOT but still show a tremendous amount of talent and skill.

I also try to work on the Female gamer part of the spectrum, namely the Female ESL Cup and Ironlady Cup. Hoping to not only join community between regions but also establish respect for one and another between sex.

Interview: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=216410

Of course I committed some wrongs in the process, which include my Justin tv getting banned for restreaming GSL since my viewership wasn’t able to understand both Korean and English so I feel obligated to restream GSL while casting the games on screen.

Also there was few hiccups in between… when you first come to NA scene no one knows you and it’s hard to start from 0 with almost no connection. With some help from the community it was definitely worth the trouble to join different communities together.

My list of content…only listing 50% or so… I’m too lazy to list a bunch of links knowing you won’t be interested anyway

LINK TO HIS FACEBOOK

Many different Articles including battle reports, Guides, content by myself/important community member translated into Chinese

I am planning on several project and ready to upload them into Teamliquid and many other forums (both Chinese/English)

Also this kick ass guide by Cecil Sunkure about “How to improve 1v1”, I’ve work on the mechnics part for a long time and listed as one of the additional authors

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=208343

Which I recommend to everyone who did is not yet playing at a high master level, but tbh I still think there’s a lot of the content can benefit professional players as well.

Okay so everything looks great, wtf is your problem?

During the time I was also helping players in the NA scene getting Korean account. Had no problem doing it, was something on the side, never intend to make money of it. Seen this transaction part of my journey to bring different scenes together, I went on did it.

Had great buyers feedback, at that time I know doing this was wrong but there was a really big demand from top players in the community, for many of them I cannot name. Thus I continue to do this.

Buyers Feedback:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=212750#16

At one point I saw a post

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=229884

Seeing this guy was ripping people off with 130+ USD per Korean account, I precede to pm few of the people in the thread saying there is a lot of seller I know including me that would do it for way less.

Later on I got reported for doing so and was permanently banned from Teamliquid.net.

I know the transgressions I have committed was very regretful and decide to take this ban for two weeks. While getting rid of the Korean Accounts and decide not to do it anymore.

I fully apologized sincerely in many of my pm’s and emails.

After getting rid of the whole selling Korean account system (last account gave away to a FXO member for raw price, btw) I contacted Teamliquid under the “contact us” link.

They respond me with an email saying

“Hi,

Please PM the moderator that banned you.

Regards,

TL Staff

”

-I then find IntoTheWow on IRC, which is the mod that perma banned me.

<IntoTheWow> I told you my decision was final

<IntoTheWow> and if you think it was unfair

<IntoTheWow> you could PM another mod.

Jibba: Sorry it took a while for me to get back to you. Honestly, this is something you should probably take to Hot_Bid.

Hot_Bid: ( He did not respond to me……. Yet)

Chill: I don't really see your point. It's common knowledge that it's against the rules to sell accounts-everyone knows this.


I don't like that you're pasting the same message to every mod on this website.

For my defense…. I only paste it to another mod after a while knowing that I might have been ignored, since that’s what many of them did when I approach them in the teamliquid IRC.

At the same time I was trying to get myself unbanned, so I can list my stream when casting listed Teamliquid calendar events, so I was a little bit impatient…. Sorry for not waiting a week when I have a project due/content upload in several hours….

I pm’d Chill back and he later swiftly, (btw kudos for replying in a timely manner), saying:

Chill: There's a thread about it and we decides not to unban you. Sorry.



Q&A (READ THIS SHIT IF YOU ARE GOING TO POST)

Oblivious reddit/Teamliquid reader: Why do u have to give up/leave? Don’t you still have a sc2 account? Jtv account? Facebook? Wellplay tv? Youtube? Game cast tv? You can still make content on those sites and stream, it’s not like you are banned from any of those right? Wtf is the big deal that you have to come and post a huge thread whining about your perma ban at TL, can’t you make another account if you want?

EZPikachu: Let me answer you noob…

First of all, perma ban means your ip is banned so whatever account I come up with gets perma banned right away. (… make me feel like a mod knowing w/e account I desire to use will get perma banned instantly)

Idra got banned, idra mad can’t stream, rage on twitter having fan spam chill inbox, same situation? NO

Speaking of listing stream, you need the consent and approval of teamliquid administrator, which chill and other administrators (who all agreed on not unbanning me, ha.ha ) will be handling, further saying that create a new account won’t work.

I also need to fulfill the sponsors and admin/hosts requirement, for publicity, which is listing my stream to the event and able to post on the TL forum.

I don’t really spend majority of my time in SC2 anymore… my game is in the community bridging people together. And I have lost my place for the above reasons.

Unless you’re a player or a lurker…especially being a caster/event broadcaster / content maker there’s no place for you in the sc2 community once you’re banned from the prime forum that is TL.

I am not overreacting to this decision from TL staff; of course there are ways to continue my work in SC2, but the trouble is too big for it to be an effective investment, I choose to not going over the troubles,

and finally, I don’t expect anyone to fully understand the impact of this decision (aka I don’t give a shit what you think if you… can’t think).


Final words:

I have gave up hope on this community which offered no chance and full of power hungry control freak administrator which carry out their executions very well to regulate our community.

I am also pretty distressed that countless hrs of my work have been disregard or...simply outweigh by the fact I did violated the some terms to help players play on other reigns.

Due to respect to my friends previously in this community, including Chill, please donnot bother TeamLiquid Admins about this; they have better things to do, I am sure there’s many others member in the community they need to give permanent bans to.

Pretty funny though... I spend 8+ hours a day on average sometimes 16+ If I can afford it …. Working with a very wide spectrum of people within the sc2 community...

Have no other life and friends out side of sc2 after spending this much time for several months.. look where it got me...

Maybe I deserve it after all... I’ll go pick up a job and spend more time in school now.

Later fellas,

Best wishes

Pikachu-EZSC

Fun fact about permanent ban:

Not only when the account get perma banned when you use it, but whenever you try to sign in with your banned account, teamliquid prompts you to the Disney Homepage, Probably inferring you are too childish to stay in this community. Maybe I am, who knows, sorry to waste your time if I sound like a childish whiny sucker who can’t deal with his own problem.

NO I will not be doing any work related to SC2 at all, terminating all previous arrangement and connection with the community, move on with my life.

Apologize to every single project/event that I’ve agreed to work on, too many to list and I am running out of patience to list them.

I can still get you Korean accounts (same fast secure transaction as always ofc)….add my email/skype/msn to have me assist you get one.

CONTACT INFORMATION HERE

(post edit: yeah I ofc it look bad still offering this, fuck it i guess,

Everyone go bug a korean friend who don’t ever want to play starcraft II ever and give you their KSSN along with helping you register the account + verify it with a correct korean name registered cellphone or back account I did try completely stopping to sell but as you’ve seen... it did not matter at all)

Reply to fans and everyone:

I wasn’t really disturb by teamliquid’s decision. Maybe besides the first 1 hour

The admin were doing their job, I have committed wrong and they did what they HAVE TO DO to take care of this issue.

I only use teamliquid as a tool, an irreplaceable tool btw, and now this tool is broken, my trade is done. I do don’t see this as overaction on my part. I did have several days to rethink about this decision.

EZSC: Nice to meet you teamliquid, fuck you and fuck you very much.
^( post edit: yeah this looks oddly contradicting and childish but I am not gonna edit out the emotion I had temporarily knowing my input have been over weighed by the contribution I can give)

Thanks to every single one of the person listed in this list, they have guide and assist me in many ways that will turn in to 20+ pages of text if I were to thank them fully.

I regret to drag every person into this negative article but I feel obligated to show my appreciation in my farwell

Include but not limited to:

Kawaiirice, miDnightsc, Wolf, Ascend, Thundertoss, JoemanSC, TheGunrun, ONEwbc. Steven Bonnell, Spazzer, FXOtgun, CellaWerra, CecilSunkure, ONEFireflash, Qbaby, Cheekyduck, Gretorp,NASL staff, Acelesson, z33k admins, TCL admins, TeSL admin and coaches, Zotac admins, Vampirelady, kiwiclonearmy,Team oTL, Team vG, Fox, Megumixbear, VTdesrow, ŞhųŞhı Kıņg SCıı and Leo the blizzard community staff.


Classy indeed.

Look at this bullshit:

Posts:
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Latest May 29 2011 16:20
PMs Sent 173

Even after PMing me that the issue was closed he continued to PM you and I'm sure multiple other mods. I banned him from PMing so it's his move now.



He IS a caster and he WAS trying to get connected with people. OBVIOUSLY he would PM different people such as mods or players to try and get in contact with them. I don't see how simple numbers reveal anything about what the PMs were about. If look at the ACTUAL posts he he made, he started a few good threads. But if anything, I don't see the guy who sold korean accounts for $130 getting permanently banned or those female ESL scathing haters getting banned. Why is HE banned ...and permanently banned for something he seemed to regret and apologize for doing?
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You want to know why he was banned for selling accounts via pm? Really??
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I think people are saying that his pros outweigh the cons he regrets.
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