On July 15 2013 05:03 Grettin wrote: Mature people or not, we've discussed the same topic many times before (Here as well) and we really don't need to discuss it anymore.
A lot of condescension, but guess what? I already made a thread before that thread. It generated two pages of posts. I evaluated the answers and felt that most of them were immature and superficial, and many of them failed to grasp the point of my post and distinguish between skill and knowledge.
'I'm too goddamn clever for everyone here.'
But that's not what I said.
I think you'll find the condescension has come from other people.
P.S -- I've been warned not to detail. So I'll take that advice. I'm only going to respond if someone has something of interest to say. Any bullshit strawmen and posts twisting my words, etc., and I simply won't respond to them.
Honestly people like that annoy me to no end. I don't care for league, and have pretty strong opinions on it, but I don't go around to their discussions flaming them for it. The fact that he made two threads and posted in general really just is ridiculous.
Now then the question is, how to throw first ban party for yango-bot?
On May 30 2013 13:21 theaxis12 wrote: I just stated that as an obvious example, there is any number of ways that Zimmerman could have made Martin fear for his life. Martin had noticed him watching him and even ran away from him, so maybe he feared being raped or kidnapped. The point is that we have to give Martin the benefit of the doubt because Zimmerman was the one who initiated the whole situation and had any violent intent going into it.
We don't have to give Martin the benefit of the doubt. He's dead. He's not on trial. What was in his head is completely irrelevant. What is relevant is Zimmerman's perception of what was happening. Actually, your last sentence is complete garbage, since there's nothing wrong with "initiating the whole situation" when you are trying to keep aware of someone you don't recognize in the neighborhood, considering the recent crimes. You're also assuming Zimmerman had violent intent ? Please.
On May 30 2013 13:21 theaxis12 wrote: Also is thinking Martin charged Zimmerman with his gun really more outlandish than the story Zimmerman is trying to promote that Martin was just a raving lunatic that once confronted with a polite conversation tried to kill him? Come on...this defense is the most racist thing to happen yet in this case. It is truly sad how many people will buy into this image of a thug n*gger that will bash your head in the second you question him.
Yeah, totally unrealistic image of thugs.
Oh, wait, we see it all the time. Not to mention, Trayvon specifically liked to get in fights ... Did you not know that or conveniently ignore the facts that are out there ?
On July 14 2013 14:58 Iceman331 wrote: I haven't really been following the trial, but I am really, really disturbed by all the vitriol being thrown at Zimmerman right now. The man was acquitted, why does the general public refuse to believe he was actually innocent? Disturbing to say the least...
The general public is a bunch of retarded sheep.
Kaitlin's one of the few users I agree with on TL, but posts like these.... And then not heeding the first ban.... '>_< *smh*
On July 14 2013 19:48 SiroKO wrote: Now let's get down to the facts. Innovation's only notorious achievement in BW is a 2-1 victory over Bisu in one MSL. Otherwise, in 2 years of Proleague he was plaid less than 10 times and had a 50% WR.
Stop using logical fallacies, I was obviously talking about the 2 last years of pure BW (2009-2011).
Are you on PCP or something? What the fuck are you talking about...
So when I have stats to back up my claim, which you don't, you call it a logical fallacy? w0t.
I'd also like to point out how a guy who joined in 2012 claims to know so much about "pure BW". Rofl.
I talked about 2 years of pure BW progaming and you try to disproof me with a 4 years stats with "all team games" checked, then you try to refer to the hybrid league as "2012" though it is referred to as the "2011-2012" Proleague in liquipedia, and fallowing all that ? an ad hominem based on the number of my posts. That's just pitiful.
Hybrid ProLeague was 2011-2012 Season 2 started May 20th 2012 ended September 22nd 2012.
And I'm sure if you had the mental capacity to count them yourself, disregarding STX Masters and SWL 2011, you would still find a lot more than 10 ProLeague matches played.... Hell, you would find a lot more than 10 matches just by looking at the first page of that TLPD link.
As for "4 years", I'm sorry, Bogus started his career in 2008, if you don't accept that it's your problem.
You lose. Good day sir.
I don't waste my time using logical fallacies on the internet. Only truth matters to me. Good day sir.
User was temp banned for this post.
Heh. Was that the post reported by MoP?
ok i was reading through that page and i honestly was surprised that siroko got banned while mop didn't, they were posting just as poorly as each other, and it was mop who escalated it not siroko.
Stop using logical fallacies, I was obviously talking about the 2 last years of pure BW (2009-2011).
Are you on PCP or something? What the fuck are you talking about...
So when I have stats to back up my claim, which you don't, you call it a logical fallacy? w0t.
I'd also like to point out how a guy who joined in 2012 claims to know so much about "pure BW". Rofl.
I talked about 2 years of pure BW progaming and you try to disproof me with a 4 years stats with "all team games" checked, then you try to refer to the hybrid league as "2012" though it is referred to as the "2011-2012" Proleague in liquipedia, and fallowing all that ? an ad hominem based on the number of my posts. That's just pitiful.
Hybrid ProLeague was 2011-2012 Season 2 started May 20th 2012 ended September 22nd 2012.
And I'm sure if you had the mental capacity to count them yourself, disregarding STX Masters and SWL 2011, you would still find a lot more than 10 ProLeague matches played.... Hell, you would find a lot more than 10 matches just by looking at the first page of that TLPD link.
As for "4 years", I'm sorry, Bogus started his career in 2008, if you don't accept that it's your problem.
You lose. Good day sir.
I don't waste my time using logical fallacies on the internet. Only truth matters to me. Good day sir.
User was temp banned for this post.
Heh. Was that the post reported by MoP?
ok i was reading through that page and i honestly was surprised that siroko got banned while mop didn't, they were posting just as poorly as each other, and it was mop who escalated it not siroko.
it would be funny if he got banned since he brought it to the ABL's attention. someone should do it just for the lulz.
Stop using logical fallacies, I was obviously talking about the 2 last years of pure BW (2009-2011).
Are you on PCP or something? What the fuck are you talking about...
So when I have stats to back up my claim, which you don't, you call it a logical fallacy? w0t.
I'd also like to point out how a guy who joined in 2012 claims to know so much about "pure BW". Rofl.
I talked about 2 years of pure BW progaming and you try to disproof me with a 4 years stats with "all team games" checked, then you try to refer to the hybrid league as "2012" though it is referred to as the "2011-2012" Proleague in liquipedia, and fallowing all that ? an ad hominem based on the number of my posts. That's just pitiful.
Hybrid ProLeague was 2011-2012 Season 2 started May 20th 2012 ended September 22nd 2012.
And I'm sure if you had the mental capacity to count them yourself, disregarding STX Masters and SWL 2011, you would still find a lot more than 10 ProLeague matches played.... Hell, you would find a lot more than 10 matches just by looking at the first page of that TLPD link.
As for "4 years", I'm sorry, Bogus started his career in 2008, if you don't accept that it's your problem.
You lose. Good day sir.
I don't waste my time using logical fallacies on the internet. Only truth matters to me. Good day sir.
User was temp banned for this post.
Heh. Was that the post reported by MoP?
ok i was reading through that page and i honestly was surprised that siroko got banned while mop didn't, they were posting just as poorly as each other, and it was mop who escalated it not siroko.
On July 14 2013 22:44 KadaverBB wrote: It's not like you were much better in this discussion of yours. Insulting his "mental capacity to count" , ending posts with "you lose" (being condescending) and then reporting him when he makes a post in response. Then you make a post in the ABL (eventhough you know this is not the right place for this) and call him a dumb brat. Why exactly are you so much better than him?
If you seriously want to discuss this, please make a post in Website Feedback.
I backed my claims with hard evidence. I followed Brood War for quite a while and anyone who has done the same would be able to tell you that that guy was completely oblivious with regards to what he was talking about. It pains me to see such blatant misinformation be spread with such nonchalance and defiance.
I'm better than him because I know what the fuck I'm talking about, otherwise I would shut up.
On July 15 2013 16:27 Firebolt145 wrote: Being right about something and being an ass to discuss things with are different things.
Yeah, I turned into an ass because I absolutely despise people who have no idea what they're talking about, and still believe that they're right without as much as trying to prove what they're saying. How completely unreasonable. Sue me for not being a perfect person.
On July 15 2013 16:27 Firebolt145 wrote: Being right about something and being an ass to discuss things with are different things.
Yeah, I turned into an ass because I absolutely despise people who have no idea what they're talking about, and still believe that they're right without as much as trying to prove what they're saying. How completely unreasonable. Sue me for not being a perfect person.
Prove your point and if the other person is just too dumb to realize what is right, then leave him be. You gain nothing from proving your correctness on the internet other than e-pride. Escalating the argument with hostility and condescension, or reciprocating it, does not help. I'd consider being an asshole much worse than being an idiot (obviously a combination of both is worse).
Yes you are not a perfect person, and neither was he.
On July 15 2013 16:32 opterown wrote: i don't care if you're right, you were just as much an asshole if not more so and the fact that you brought it up here too... lol
On July 15 2013 16:32 opterown wrote: i don't care if you're right, you were just as much an asshole if not more so and the fact that you brought it up here too... lol
EPT
