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United States5162 Posts
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##Nominate the random pbu who was probably jd for ban awards season 2
Edit: at br below, its for the best, not the very best.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
On February 13 2013 12:24 Jaaaaasper wrote:
##Nominate the random pbu who was probably jd for ban awards season 2
no jd was already nominated for season 1.
also I've seen better mod notes.
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Best mod not would be an interesting addition or sub category for this season.
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Miami Metro was just banned by Plexa.
That account was created on 2012-12-05 06:14:23 and had 70 posts.
Reason: Previously banned user.
I'm surprised you lasted almost two months though.
Last edit: 2013-02-13 11:26:56
Not often does the bot make an edit 
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On February 13 2013 04:22 KwarK wrote:I'm afraid I used my mod vision to see this post. If you do wish to discuss my actions regarding this then please feel free to PM me. I won't bite.
Don't do it phreak, its a trap. I can tell you from experience that he does indeed bite.
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Lalalaland34490 Posts
On February 13 2013 16:08 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +Miami Metro was just banned by Plexa.
That account was created on 2012-12-05 06:14:23 and had 70 posts.
Reason: Previously banned user.
I'm surprised you lasted almost two months though.
Last edit: 2013-02-13 11:26:56 Not often does the bot make an edit
Plexa probably edited in the '2 months' comment afterwards.
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On February 13 2013 12:24 Jaaaaasper wrote:
##Nominate the random pbu who was probably jd for ban awards season 2
Edit: at br below, its for the best, not the very best.
No it's actually a guy that was caught hacking way back.
On February 13 2013 09:05 KellogsMan wrote:
I'm getting truly tired of this. Approaching a year ago now, I played a couple of games of sc2 on battle.net with a maphack to see what it was like. Plexa, notorious over-zealous banner, then banned me for using a maphack on sc2 ladder once and now, many months later I'm still being banned for being a previously banned user.
Really, I think it's about time somebody said look, there's no official rule saying that TL mods will ban anyone who's used a maphack once, and it's been almost a year since this guy's even used one, it's about time this stopped. I'm never going to stop posting here... this is the site for sc2 and sc2 is MY GAME. I'm an active community member, I coach all the time, I've always created content and frankly this is continous banning for getting 8 ladder points with a maphack on a year ago is just depressing for me. I love this place.
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ah, enemech? i remember that idiot. made a total mess out of himself in the hacker thread. it was a pretty fun read though, in it's own sad way. his blogs were really sad reads as well.
at first it was no games, then it was one game, then it was a couple, then it was for a while (now it's back to 8 ladderpoints). then he switched tactics to trying to make it seem like it was not a big deal, and that he was like a child unknowingly taking candy from a shop. never said sorry or expressed regrets either, and the report was posted by another tler... nyast i think.
i hope he's never let back. he's definitively not the kind of person i'd like around on tl.
here's the start of the shitstorm for anyone who wants to degrade themselves:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=340614¤tpage=196#3908
here's a blog that's really sad:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378591
enjoy.
edit:
here's one of his website feedback threads, i am sure there are more:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=387273#1
he had at least 3 accounts from before. ene, enemech and scholera.
this post is not really light hearted, so i'll end with a cute smiley. :3
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Giving the vague nature of this rant, I propose we all interpet it is as we see fit.
Me personally, I like to believe he killed a hooker after a long period of keeping his urge to do so under control.
The first response to that blog was pretty stellar though. Also it is pretty amazing how :3 can soften the coarsest of posts if I tell someone to, "go fuck themself," I'll get a warning at least but, saying, "go fuck yourself :3" is a whole different thing. Was I being coy or just my normal dickish self?
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"if you so much as fart in my direction i will remove you"
I laughed out loud, in class.
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SupLilSon was just temp banned for 1 week by KwarK.
That account was created on 2011-10-08 10:33:08 and had 3118 posts.
Reason: Well, that's not gonna fly, not even in the general forum. You can't just lie, get shown to be lying and then act like you made a point.
On February 14 2013 07:11 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 06:21 farvacola wrote:On February 14 2013 05:51 SupLilSon wrote:On February 14 2013 05:35 QuanticHawk wrote:On February 14 2013 05:22 FrankWalls wrote:On February 14 2013 05:17 QuanticHawk wrote:
You honestly do not understand why what you're saying is bordering on insane?
dude.. its not. what happens in those stories is that everyone gets all upset about it for a few days and then they forget about it forever. all those stories you talked about barring the riots, never heard of them. if this guy had supposed video evidence then he probably already tried to use it and it failed completely, because theres no story there. at the most the paper would call up the department, they would all tell the reporters that it's bullshit, and that would be the end of it. that's why people are justified in hating the LAPD. sure, the majority may not be the people doing the corrupt things, but all of them are covering it up. First you were arguing that it wasn't news worthy On February 14 2013 03:04 FrankWalls wrote:On February 14 2013 03:00 JonnyBNoHo wrote:On February 14 2013 02:58 FrankWalls wrote:On February 14 2013 02:27 JonnyBNoHo wrote:On February 14 2013 02:18 GaNgStaRR.ElV wrote:On February 14 2013 01:50 semantics wrote:
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By the why people these are the people dorner killed in order
1.Monica Quan, 28, and her fiancé,
2.Keith Lawrence, 27,
They were killed as they sat in their car in Irvine.
In an online manifesto, Dorner cites Quan's father as being involved in his firing from the Los Angeles Police Department in 2008
3.Riverside Police Officer Michael Crain, who died and his partner were shot at a red light not at the moment in pursuit of dorner.
4.San Bernardino deputy who died from injuries while in a shot out with dorner.
LAPD he killed 0.
People who at least by his account directly wronged him killed 0.
Yeah real hero. He's a hero for his message not his result. Innocent blood sometimes must be shed in order for the sins of the wicked to be exposed. Put yourself in his situation. Clearly a proud patriotic man. Aspiring police officer, won't stand for racist comments even among "friends"(taken straight from the manifesto). Intolerant of those who seek to use their powers for their own benefit, pleasure or for the harm of others. Basically if this was the "Dark Knight" he is Jim Gordon. Serves his country only to be betrayed by his organization because of his refusal to stand by and watch injustice. Would you not go into a very depressed, angry state if because reporting a wrongdoing of a fellow officer you were SUMMARILY DISMISSED FROM YOUR JOB, incorrectly called a liar and forced out of what you had been so proud to accomplish? The only reason he didn't have any real revenge is because he didn't have that moment of brilliance to think "hey, why don't i go kill officer xxx and officer xxx and captain xxx who actually did me harm, first, before i publish a manifesto and murk someone's daughter and get 10,000 cops after me and these people get put in the tighest, unreachable protection available." Again, I'm not justifying the slaying of innocents, I'm not a cultist of Chris Dorner. But do I see a trend in history where SOMEONE has to be the first to stand up, someone has to sacrifice in order for any sort of revolution or good-doing to come from it. The real shame of this case is if the press focuses more on the AWB parts that were added into his manifesto as a anti-gun argument and the xxx people in his manifesto go unpunished, and this will only happen again. It could be another mass murder, it could be riots, I don't know, but you can't let such oppression go so openly documented(I mean FFS, shooting 3 people, without checking for ID, because they THOUGHT it was him. burning a house down) without retaliation one day. Or he could have fought corruption in a peaceful way. But whatever - the ends justify the means, right? i'm not advocating his measures, but if he had gone about it in a peaceful way there would be no discussion about this at all in the first place. I think dorner accomplished his goal in the only way that he saw possible. How do you figure? Aren't corruption cases big news? if they ever get to the point where they can get coverage, yes, but this guy never would have got a foothold in media for a big story (peacefully). it'd be dismissed. i mean look at the source, a disgruntled officer who wasnt all that important. that alone is enough to just take one look at it and throw his manifesto away. it wouldn't have made any headlines anywhere now it's that people wouldn't care? Which is it? and clearly there's enough stories of LAPD corruption and abuse because there's a whole slew of people in here and elsewhere on the internet and world. The reason people distrust the cops is because of the media you're saying wouldn't do shit constantly reports on stories exactly like what this guy was alleging. People associate the LAPD with Rodney King and that whole cluster fuck because the media you're saying doesn't do shit. There is a long, long history of the media caring about police brutality, scandals and corruption, and doing lots of reporting about it. and again, you clearly have no idea how the media works and what they can do. A media outlet would not just call the cops—who have a vested interest in protecting themselves here—and take their word at face value. You've clearly never heard of sunshine laws, freedom of information act, open public records act. You have no clue what you're talking about. The officers involved in the Rodney King beating, probably the biggest media shit storm surrounding brutality and corruption are still active and climbing the ranks of the LAPD. Who doesn't have a clue what they are talking about LOL The four principle defendants who were acquitted, Sergeant Stacey Koon, Officer Laurence Powell, Officer Theodore Briseno and Officer Timothy Wind, have not worked for the LAPD for many years. Sgt. Koon was convicted by a federal jury of felony civil rights offenses after being acquitted in Simil Valley, served 2 years in federal prison, and is now ineligible for the police force due to being convicted of a felony. Officer Powell was similarly found guilty by a federal jury, served over 2 years in federal prison, and is similarly ineligible for police work. Officers Briseno and Wind, while not found guilty in federal court, would not remain part of the LAPD for long. Briseno was immediately dismissed and became a security guard, while Wind would go on to be fired from the LAPD in 1994 and be forced to become a community service officer in Culver City, California. Sources: Stacey KoonLaurence Powell The L.A. Riots: 20 years later Where they are nowWho doesn't have a clue what they are talking about LOL Was the answer to this supposed to be you? Yea it only took the LA riots and over 50 deaths for the courts to come back with those decisions..... User was temp banned for this post.
Well somebody made an idiot out of himself here.
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On February 14 2013 07:18 Cokefreak wrote:Show nested quote +SupLilSon was just temp banned for 1 week by KwarK.
That account was created on 2011-10-08 10:33:08 and had 3118 posts.
Reason: Well, that's not gonna fly, not even in the general forum. You can't just lie, get shown to be lying and then act like you made a point. Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 07:11 SupLilSon wrote:On February 14 2013 06:21 farvacola wrote:On February 14 2013 05:51 SupLilSon wrote:On February 14 2013 05:35 QuanticHawk wrote:On February 14 2013 05:22 FrankWalls wrote:On February 14 2013 05:17 QuanticHawk wrote:
You honestly do not understand why what you're saying is bordering on insane?
dude.. its not. what happens in those stories is that everyone gets all upset about it for a few days and then they forget about it forever. all those stories you talked about barring the riots, never heard of them. if this guy had supposed video evidence then he probably already tried to use it and it failed completely, because theres no story there. at the most the paper would call up the department, they would all tell the reporters that it's bullshit, and that would be the end of it. that's why people are justified in hating the LAPD. sure, the majority may not be the people doing the corrupt things, but all of them are covering it up. First you were arguing that it wasn't news worthy On February 14 2013 03:04 FrankWalls wrote:On February 14 2013 03:00 JonnyBNoHo wrote:On February 14 2013 02:58 FrankWalls wrote:On February 14 2013 02:27 JonnyBNoHo wrote:On February 14 2013 02:18 GaNgStaRR.ElV wrote:
[quote]
He's a hero for his message not his result. Innocent blood sometimes must be shed in order for the sins of the wicked to be exposed.
Put yourself in his situation. Clearly a proud patriotic man. Aspiring police officer, won't stand for racist comments even among "friends"(taken straight from the manifesto). Intolerant of those who seek to use their powers for their own benefit, pleasure or for the harm of others. Basically if this was the "Dark Knight" he is Jim Gordon. Serves his country only to be betrayed by his organization because of his refusal to stand by and watch injustice. Would you not go into a very depressed, angry state if because reporting a wrongdoing of a fellow officer you were SUMMARILY DISMISSED FROM YOUR JOB, incorrectly called a liar and forced out of what you had been so proud to accomplish? The only reason he didn't have any real revenge is because he didn't have that moment of brilliance to think "hey, why don't i go kill officer xxx and officer xxx and captain xxx who actually did me harm, first, before i publish a manifesto and murk someone's daughter and get 10,000 cops after me and these people get put in the tighest, unreachable protection available."
Again, I'm not justifying the slaying of innocents, I'm not a cultist of Chris Dorner. But do I see a trend in history where SOMEONE has to be the first to stand up, someone has to sacrifice in order for any sort of revolution or good-doing to come from it.
The real shame of this case is if the press focuses more on the AWB parts that were added into his manifesto as a anti-gun argument and the xxx people in his manifesto go unpunished, and this will only happen again. It could be another mass murder, it could be riots, I don't know, but you can't let such oppression go so openly documented(I mean FFS, shooting 3 people, without checking for ID, because they THOUGHT it was him. burning a house down) without retaliation one day. Or he could have fought corruption in a peaceful way. But whatever - the ends justify the means, right? i'm not advocating his measures, but if he had gone about it in a peaceful way there would be no discussion about this at all in the first place. I think dorner accomplished his goal in the only way that he saw possible. How do you figure? Aren't corruption cases big news? if they ever get to the point where they can get coverage, yes, but this guy never would have got a foothold in media for a big story (peacefully). it'd be dismissed. i mean look at the source, a disgruntled officer who wasnt all that important. that alone is enough to just take one look at it and throw his manifesto away. it wouldn't have made any headlines anywhere now it's that people wouldn't care? Which is it? and clearly there's enough stories of LAPD corruption and abuse because there's a whole slew of people in here and elsewhere on the internet and world. The reason people distrust the cops is because of the media you're saying wouldn't do shit constantly reports on stories exactly like what this guy was alleging. People associate the LAPD with Rodney King and that whole cluster fuck because the media you're saying doesn't do shit. There is a long, long history of the media caring about police brutality, scandals and corruption, and doing lots of reporting about it. and again, you clearly have no idea how the media works and what they can do. A media outlet would not just call the cops—who have a vested interest in protecting themselves here—and take their word at face value. You've clearly never heard of sunshine laws, freedom of information act, open public records act. You have no clue what you're talking about. The officers involved in the Rodney King beating, probably the biggest media shit storm surrounding brutality and corruption are still active and climbing the ranks of the LAPD. Who doesn't have a clue what they are talking about LOL The four principle defendants who were acquitted, Sergeant Stacey Koon, Officer Laurence Powell, Officer Theodore Briseno and Officer Timothy Wind, have not worked for the LAPD for many years. Sgt. Koon was convicted by a federal jury of felony civil rights offenses after being acquitted in Simil Valley, served 2 years in federal prison, and is now ineligible for the police force due to being convicted of a felony. Officer Powell was similarly found guilty by a federal jury, served over 2 years in federal prison, and is similarly ineligible for police work. Officers Briseno and Wind, while not found guilty in federal court, would not remain part of the LAPD for long. Briseno was immediately dismissed and became a security guard, while Wind would go on to be fired from the LAPD in 1994 and be forced to become a community service officer in Culver City, California. Sources: Stacey KoonLaurence Powell The L.A. Riots: 20 years later Where they are nowWho doesn't have a clue what they are talking about LOL Was the answer to this supposed to be you? Yea it only took the LA riots and over 50 deaths for the courts to come back with those decisions..... User was temp banned for this post. Well somebody made an idiot out of himself here.
yes, the mod note was very descriptive as to what he did as well.
kwark, would you still have dished the ban if he said:
ok, you are right, i was wrong, but it took the LA riots and over 50 deaths for it to happen, and that's something i don't like.
edit: maybe humblepie is really good for your banhammer immune system.
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United States42539 Posts
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maybe there is money to be made in sanity checking posts real time for people in heated debates on tl.
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"Not even in General," got a laugh out of me.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On February 13 2013 20:24 Cokefreak wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2013 12:24 Jaaaaasper wrote:
##Nominate the random pbu who was probably jd for ban awards season 2
Edit: at br below, its for the best, not the very best. No it's actually a guy that was caught hacking way back. Show nested quote +On February 13 2013 09:05 KellogsMan wrote:
I'm getting truly tired of this. Approaching a year ago now, I played a couple of games of sc2 on battle.net with a maphack to see what it was like. Plexa, notorious over-zealous banner, then banned me for using a maphack on sc2 ladder once and now, many months later I'm still being banned for being a previously banned user.
Really, I think it's about time somebody said look, there's no official rule saying that TL mods will ban anyone who's used a maphack once, and it's been almost a year since this guy's even used one, it's about time this stopped. I'm never going to stop posting here... this is the site for sc2 and sc2 is MY GAME. I'm an active community member, I coach all the time, I've always created content and frankly this is continous banning for getting 8 ladder points with a maphack on a year ago is just depressing for me. I love this place.
I'm surprised that he's called me overzealous  I definitely wouldn't describe my bans as that. Oh well. And TL does have a very well established zero tolerance policy towards hackers. Simply saying "I did it once, but then I stopped I swear!" isn't good enough. Knowing you have done it once is enough to question any game you've played because its so easy just to write it was "just that one time" and not mean it.
Also, he was a absolutely abhorrent poster with many previous mod infractions so its no real loss to the community if he is banned.
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On February 14 2013 09:08 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2013 20:24 Cokefreak wrote:On February 13 2013 12:24 Jaaaaasper wrote:
##Nominate the random pbu who was probably jd for ban awards season 2
Edit: at br below, its for the best, not the very best. No it's actually a guy that was caught hacking way back. On February 13 2013 09:05 KellogsMan wrote:
I'm getting truly tired of this. Approaching a year ago now, I played a couple of games of sc2 on battle.net with a maphack to see what it was like. Plexa, notorious over-zealous banner, then banned me for using a maphack on sc2 ladder once and now, many months later I'm still being banned for being a previously banned user.
Really, I think it's about time somebody said look, there's no official rule saying that TL mods will ban anyone who's used a maphack once, and it's been almost a year since this guy's even used one, it's about time this stopped. I'm never going to stop posting here... this is the site for sc2 and sc2 is MY GAME. I'm an active community member, I coach all the time, I've always created content and frankly this is continous banning for getting 8 ladder points with a maphack on a year ago is just depressing for me. I love this place. I'm surprised that he's called me overzealous I definitely wouldn't describe my bans as that. Oh well. And TL does have a very well established zero tolerance policy towards hackers. Simply saying "I did it once, but then I stopped I swear!" isn't good enough. Knowing you have done it once is enough to question any game you've played because its so easy just to write it was "just that one time" and not mean it. Also, he was a absolutely abhorrent poster with many previous mod infractions so its no real loss to the community if he is banned.
Don't try to deny the fact that you are obviously an overzealous nazi mod that bans people for whatever and whenever you want
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On February 14 2013 09:10 Cokefreak wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 09:08 Plexa wrote:On February 13 2013 20:24 Cokefreak wrote:On February 13 2013 12:24 Jaaaaasper wrote:
##Nominate the random pbu who was probably jd for ban awards season 2
Edit: at br below, its for the best, not the very best. No it's actually a guy that was caught hacking way back. On February 13 2013 09:05 KellogsMan wrote:
I'm getting truly tired of this. Approaching a year ago now, I played a couple of games of sc2 on battle.net with a maphack to see what it was like. Plexa, notorious over-zealous banner, then banned me for using a maphack on sc2 ladder once and now, many months later I'm still being banned for being a previously banned user.
Really, I think it's about time somebody said look, there's no official rule saying that TL mods will ban anyone who's used a maphack once, and it's been almost a year since this guy's even used one, it's about time this stopped. I'm never going to stop posting here... this is the site for sc2 and sc2 is MY GAME. I'm an active community member, I coach all the time, I've always created content and frankly this is continous banning for getting 8 ladder points with a maphack on a year ago is just depressing for me. I love this place. I'm surprised that he's called me overzealous I definitely wouldn't describe my bans as that. Oh well. And TL does have a very well established zero tolerance policy towards hackers. Simply saying "I did it once, but then I stopped I swear!" isn't good enough. Knowing you have done it once is enough to question any game you've played because its so easy just to write it was "just that one time" and not mean it. Also, he was a absolutely abhorrent poster with many previous mod infractions so its no real loss to the community if he is banned. Don't try to deny the fact that you are obviously an overzealous nazi mod that bans people for whatever and whenever you want
Meh, let it happen, it's kind of refreshing to see any bizarre complaints directed at someone besides KwarK.
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