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Please, if you are not staff, don't answer questions in this thread, even if you think you know the answer.

Also, please take complains about bans, question about TL as a site, etc to the Website Feedback Forum.
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
August 28 2012 05:08 GMT
#4001
"Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman" is a great book
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Kleataurus
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia56 Posts
August 28 2012 06:48 GMT
#4002
On August 28 2012 05:53 flamewheel wrote:
america

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Haha great successes Mr. Wheel

also how many staff are from the land known as Australia
Meow?
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17052 Posts
August 28 2012 07:43 GMT
#4003
Few.
Moderator
NewbieOne
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Poland560 Posts
August 28 2012 10:54 GMT
#4004
Guys, have you ever thought about introducing a rule to restrict moderating to moderators? I've seen it work on a gaming forum where I was active for several years. It can feel a little restrictive but in about a year or so I've spent at TL, I've noticed that you guys are serious about eliminating spam, whereas one of the most standing out kinds of spam is guys chiming in and saying, "what a bad thread," for example (what a great post, by the way). Then people argue where (or whether) the OP should have posted elsewhere than he did, whether his opening post (or the opening poster, for that matter) was intelligent or not, witty one-liners go back and forth, some other poster shares an opinion on what the moderators should do with the thread, etc. It'd be up to you because "outlawing" that type of thing would have a very noticeable restrictive feel but the quality gain could make it worth it (more manner, less thread derail, reduced opportunity for flame wars).
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
August 28 2012 13:06 GMT
#4005
--- Nuked ---
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
August 28 2012 13:11 GMT
#4006
On August 28 2012 12:50 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 13:26 redtooth wrote:
@RICH or any of the staffers who do behind-the-scenes coding:
How often does TL.net get attacked via hacking or other malicious electronic means? By that I don't mean users manually signing up multiple accounts to spam or even something like tdotcrazy. If a single concrete number isn't available, can you tell us if it would be "shocking" to know? Do you think is targeted more than the average website of comparable size and traffic?

lost in the swarm of FW's posts. still unanswered =/

I don't think you're going to get an answer on this, fyi.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
August 28 2012 18:47 GMT
#4007
How did the moderators and banlings get to their status? ie. how did they become mods/who chose them?
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
August 28 2012 19:17 GMT
#4008
On August 28 2012 22:11 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 12:50 redtooth wrote:
On August 27 2012 13:26 redtooth wrote:
@RICH or any of the staffers who do behind-the-scenes coding:
How often does TL.net get attacked via hacking or other malicious electronic means? By that I don't mean users manually signing up multiple accounts to spam or even something like tdotcrazy. If a single concrete number isn't available, can you tell us if it would be "shocking" to know? Do you think is targeted more than the average website of comparable size and traffic?

lost in the swarm of FW's posts. still unanswered =/

I don't think you're going to get an answer on this, fyi.

kk ty.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
August 28 2012 19:26 GMT
#4009
On August 28 2012 22:06 Barrin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 19:54 NewbieOne wrote:
Guys, have you ever thought about introducing a rule to restrict moderating to moderators? I've seen it work on a gaming forum where I was active for several years. It can feel a little restrictive but in about a year or so I've spent at TL, I've noticed that you guys are serious about eliminating spam, whereas one of the most standing out kinds of spam is guys chiming in and saying, "what a bad thread," for example (what a great post, by the way). Then people argue where (or whether) the OP should have posted elsewhere than he did, whether his opening post (or the opening poster, for that matter) was intelligent or not, witty one-liners go back and forth, some other poster shares an opinion on what the moderators should do with the thread, etc. It'd be up to you because "outlawing" that type of thing would have a very noticeable restrictive feel but the quality gain could make it worth it (more manner, less thread derail, reduced opportunity for flame wars).

There is already a sorta unwritten rule about this. It's called "backseat moderating" and it is highly discouraged. I'm sure several people have been warned for multiple offenses, not sure if anyone's ever been banned for it.

I agree with cracking down more on this (including making the rule more obvious).


Happy Birthday yo, get anything nice? :D
memes are a dish best served dank
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43735 Posts
August 28 2012 19:31 GMT
#4010
On August 29 2012 03:47 Epishade wrote:
How did the moderators and banlings get to their status? ie. how did they become mods/who chose them?

A little over two years ago Hot_Bid sent out a number of PMs inviting a select few people to become banlings, part of a reorganising of staff into specific roles rather than the previous blue and red system. Most of the current banlings were part of this wave although some more have subsequently been offered the position. Banlings, like most other staff members, generally already have a relationship with tl staff in some way, for example I had been on the writing staff for many years before I was offered the position. However some have just been notable veterans who contribute by their consistent quality posting rather than as members of staff.
Since the initial wave promotion has either been a product of the mysterious processes at TL HQ or by acclamation in which they get suggested and everyone in the banling forum likes the idea.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
August 28 2012 20:10 GMT
#4011
Thanks for the answer.
Always interesting learning the history of TL.
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25996 Posts
August 28 2012 20:19 GMT
#4012
There's also a thread in the Men in Red forum where we discuss potential Banlings. There is likely a similar thread in the administrator forum.

Moderators almost never lose their status unless they request it or prove they can no longer be trusted.
Banlings have lost their status when they are given a trial and their moderating style doesn't fit in line with TL. Again, once they pass their trial period it's fairly difficult to lose their status.
Moderator
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
August 28 2012 20:26 GMT
#4013
On August 29 2012 05:19 Chill wrote:
There's also a thread in the Men in Red forum where we discuss potential Banlings. There is likely a similar thread in the administrator forum.

Moderators almost never lose their status unless they request it or prove they can no longer be trusted.
Banlings have lost their status when they are given a trial and their moderating style doesn't fit in line with TL. Again, once they pass their trial period it's fairly difficult to lose their status.

So thats actually happened with a Banling losing their status? I can only think of incontrol and I always heard he voluntarily stepped down. Then again there was some drama around him at the time so I dont know T_T
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 28 2012 20:37 GMT
#4014
On August 28 2012 22:06 Barrin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 19:54 NewbieOne wrote:
Guys, have you ever thought about introducing a rule to restrict moderating to moderators? I've seen it work on a gaming forum where I was active for several years. It can feel a little restrictive but in about a year or so I've spent at TL, I've noticed that you guys are serious about eliminating spam, whereas one of the most standing out kinds of spam is guys chiming in and saying, "what a bad thread," for example (what a great post, by the way). Then people argue where (or whether) the OP should have posted elsewhere than he did, whether his opening post (or the opening poster, for that matter) was intelligent or not, witty one-liners go back and forth, some other poster shares an opinion on what the moderators should do with the thread, etc. It'd be up to you because "outlawing" that type of thing would have a very noticeable restrictive feel but the quality gain could make it worth it (more manner, less thread derail, reduced opportunity for flame wars).

There is already a sorta unwritten rule about this. It's called "backseat moderating" and it is highly discouraged. I'm sure several people have been warned for multiple offenses, not sure if anyone's ever been banned for it.

I agree with cracking down more on this (including making the rule more obvious).

Funny you should say that.

Anyway I just wanted to say happy birthday yo!
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
salle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden5554 Posts
August 28 2012 21:06 GMT
#4015
On August 29 2012 03:47 Epishade wrote:
How did the moderators and banlings get to their status? ie. how did they become mods/who chose them?

Well you can read my one and only blog entry for a lot of it. But I guess I kept contributing to the wiki and helping people out and I wasn't too obnoxious and annoying to the other staff members. And when Aesop stepped down from the position as Head of Liquipedia I was asked if I wanted to take over, and I did, and I got red at the same time. And by who? The admins, but it was Plexa that contacted me, IIRC.
Administrator"Ambitious but rubbish!" - Jeremy Clarkson
NewbieOne
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Poland560 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-28 21:11:51
August 28 2012 21:11 GMT
#4016
Hey, guys, there is one more thing I'd like to mention, which is not purely a question, so I apologise if this is slightly off-topic from this POV. I've just got my first warning today and noticed the cute little closing line: "(Do not reply to this message. No one will receive it.)" just after a, "thank you for your cooperation." It could be taken at face value as a neutral information but I don't think anybody receiving or giving a warning (due to the emotions involved) would take it like that. So here's question: is that line really meant at face value or is it meant as an insult? This is a serious question, not a rage question.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17052 Posts
August 28 2012 21:13 GMT
#4017
Any responses go to the TL Bot account, so no one actually reads it. Sometimes users will send a PM to the mod who was responsible for the action, though.
Moderator
SirJolt
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
the Dagon Knight4010 Posts
August 28 2012 21:14 GMT
#4018
On August 29 2012 06:11 NewbieOne wrote:
Hey, guys, there is one more thing I'd like to mention, which is not purely a question, so I apologise if this is slightly off-topic from this POV. I've just got my first warning today and noticed the cute little closing line: "(Do not reply to this message. No one will receive it.)" just after a, "thank you for your cooperation." It could be taken at face value as a neutral information but I don't think anybody receiving or giving a warning (due to the emotions involved) would take it like that. So here's question: is that line really meant at face value or is it meant as an insult? This is a serious question, not a rage question.


I'm sorry, maybe I'm a little slow on the uptake, but could you explain how that could be taken as an insult?
Moderator@SirJolt
salle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden5554 Posts
August 28 2012 21:19 GMT
#4019
It's meant to be informative, TL.net Bot is not person with a PM inbox that s/he can read.
I'm sure the funny guys on staff could think up something better if it was meant as an insult. And I think the phrasing is close enough to a lot of automated email messages I've gotten.
Administrator"Ambitious but rubbish!" - Jeremy Clarkson
1handsomE
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States199 Posts
August 28 2012 21:24 GMT
#4020
Do you guys plan to do official OSL hype threads like you do GSL/MLG? Waxangel write ups etc.
MarineKing / Jaedong / DeMusliM / SeleCT / Maru hwaiting!
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