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chocopan
Japan986 Posts
On February 28 2011 22:46 Kickboxer wrote: It's not normal to be gay, this is as plain as the nose on your face. If it were normal gay people could conceive children and men would have a spare vagina and women a spare penis. You've lost me. Can you elucidate? | ||
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playa
United States1284 Posts
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacrophiliaNow when I'm older I realize I was into that a long time before I even started being interested in girls lol, and I think it's the same most of the times with homosexuality. | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Sort of like when someone minbet minraises in poker and I go on how 'lol this is so gay', will you see it as an insult if you are sitting at my table/can I get my ass kicked by using the term gay in this way? | ||
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thehitman
1105 Posts
On February 28 2011 00:41 KissKiss wrote: Ok, thats some grade A paranoia there. Homosexuality has been around since the dawn of time. Not just humans too, pretty sure antelope aren't going gay because of whats in the water. You might perceive homosexuality to be on the increase, but I think thats probably because a larger proportion are openly gay now and also because TV gives more airtime to your lisping camp type than is really proportional. Anyway, remember Ancient Greece? Yeah, those guys loved cock. Also one of the more advanced civilisations of its era. As for all this chemicals in the food stuff, yeah, you got precisely zero evidence so you may as well correlate a increase in homosexuality with, idk, computer usage. Oh so you've been alive for thousands of years and that us why you know that homosexuality has been there forever. I don't see how you can even think to say that. As far as chemicals in food there is all the evidence in the world, just read the frakin label where it writes ingredients And not to mention the stuff that isn't written on the label, like for example coca cola secret ingredient, you basically can be drinking piss and not know about it. And how the frak do you know antelopes are gay?" Have you been alive for thousand of years and been a gay antelope? | ||
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jarrydesque
584 Posts
On February 28 2011 23:59 LemOn wrote: Hey guys, how do you view the term 'what a gay rush' or when a someone calls a 'weird' exploitative play 'gay'? Sort of like when someone minbet minraises in poker and I go on how 'lol this is so gay', will you see it as an insult if you are sitting at my table/can I get my ass kicked by using the term gay in this way? Quite a couple of people have asked this in the thread already - if you scroll back a couple of pages you can read some responses. The general feel is no - It's generally accepted that people call everything gay, regardless of how gay it is. I often say it just because I'm so used to hearing it and my friends say it all the time. P.S. "Have you been alive for thousand of years and been a gay antelope?" This made me lol hard. | ||
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fidelity
Sweden410 Posts
On March 01 2011 00:07 thehitman wrote: Oh so you've been alive for thousands of years and that us why you know that homosexuality has been there forever. I don't see how you can even think to say that. As far as chemicals in food there is all the evidence in the world, just read the frakin label where it writes ingredients And not to mention the stuff that isn't written on the label, like for example coca cola secret ingredient, you basically can be drinking piss and not know about it. And how the frak do you know antelopes are gay?" Have you been alive for thousand of years and been a gay antelope? You're not making any sense. Of course you can see if an animal is gay or not, gay is about being attracted to the same gender, it's not space science. | ||
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zocktol
Germany1928 Posts
On March 01 2011 00:07 thehitman wrote: Oh so you've been alive for thousands of years and that us why you know that homosexuality has been there forever. I don't see how you can even think to say that. As far as chemicals in food there is all the evidence in the world, just read the frakin label where it writes ingredients And not to mention the stuff that isn't written on the label, like for example coca cola secret ingredient, you basically can be drinking piss and not know about it. And how the frak do you know antelopes are gay?" Have you been alive for thousand of years and been a gay antelope? Are you trying to argue, that homosexuality is an unnatural development in humanity, because of chemical influences? The only influence i know of is that certain chemicals and plastic bottles can lead to an change in hormone levels in males. The Anti-Baby-Pill is especially dangerous consicdering that, because the active agent, survives even when released into nature by females, thus contaminating water. But this makes you more female(man boobs) but does not turn you gay. And chemicals in food like axcorbic acid, i would not worry about them. On the other hand homosexual males are believed to commit adultery with females, at least in the animal kingdom, which with lions for example leads to children, that are protected not by one but two adult male lions. Guess thats not that big of an advantage is it? Here you will find a list of Homosexual Animals. If you do not believe Wikipedia in itself, then just follow the citations, i dare you. | ||
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R1CH
Netherlands10340 Posts
On February 28 2011 22:46 Kickboxer wrote: Hmm I hope I don't get banned for expressing my opinion but in my mind one massive problem of contemporary homosexuals is their insistence on being "normal". It's not normal to be gay, this is as plain as the nose on your face. If it were normal gay people could conceive children and men would have a spare vagina and women a spare penis. I know animals can be gay, too, but they can also have cancer or be batshit crazy hence this argument is completely off. I think gay people should really settle on the public perception of the "harmless deviant" instead of lobbying for the position of the "other kind of normal" and for stuff like adopting children because this makes the whole matter a lot harder to stomach for people who view things in different terms. Again I'll go back to my earlier argument, what is normal? Are people with green eyes not normal? Are left-handed people not normal too? I really dislike this "It isn't normal" argument since it's not really an argument at all, it's your viewpoint and it *must* be correct because it "isn't normal" otherwise. Is it really your opinion or are you just following whatever society and religion has molded you into thinking? While it might be nice for you if the gays settled down and you didn't have to see them, you can't realistically expect this to happen when rights and privileges are denied solely on the gender of the person you love. | ||
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betaV1.25
425 Posts
I think it takes alot of time and interaction with gays befor people like Kickboxer can ever see that gays are just... people. | ||
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foppa
Canada451 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
Normal: conforming to the standard or the common type; usual; not abnormal; regular; natural. Gays evidently don't conform to the standard or the common type, and they're not 'usual' like heteros are. But it is also normal in that it's natural (as evidenced by the presence of homsexuality in the animal world). Really what R1ch says is correct. Lefthandedness or green eyes aren't 'normal' either, but it's totally irrelevant. Starcraft 2 players are much less 'normal' than homosexual people. | ||
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WLV
Canada76 Posts
On February 24 2011 12:11 SilverWolfe wrote: Hey bumping this thread because I think it deserves to stay alive. I got into SC2 about a year ago and I'm pretty much gay (occasionally I get turned on by girls I guess and experimented with them). I feel like being a gay starcraft player is so unusual, haven't met another in real before. I also think HuK is really hot <3 way to go bump a dead thread. ur homosexual (please be politically correct), and u play SC2. NO correlation whatsoever. please keep your sexual preferences outside of the gaming world because they neither contribute, nor take away from the game. creating this unnecessary division is useless. as the OP said, this isnt about sc2. go read his list of what he wants this thread to be about. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Avila
Canada39 Posts
2) I dont need to ask questions- I have been in theatre for many years so having a Will to ur Grace is normal to me.. my gaming gay bff left me to go to college and I am missing his presence in my gaming life. Plus all the queers seem partial to WoW and I dont play that anymore. 3) Gaydar does exist, however its not an internal measurement type thing - its just your experience telling what signs gave way to the flashing red queer sign. I learned this years ago after having my heart broken by a a very sexy, singing and dancing man.. ( i suppose the latter would have been a good sign ) Mora- no fag is complete without a hag! Msg me and lets get this party started. unless you hate lady gaga then i want nothing to do with you. <3 avila. oh and im canadian which already makes us kindred spirits. oh and heres the reason gaygaming bffs are the best- Men who are straight and game and know ur a girl just hit on you - say offensive things etc Women who game ( with the odd exception) - are one of two things - fat/ugly/weird/ and cant get attention from men anywhere else so they come to games, and since SC isnt a mmo that filters a lot of those ppls. Or they play cause their bf's do which means they probably suck and want to hang out with their bf's anyway I play with my bf but i dont play CAUSE of him. I play cause i like to kick ppls ass. So that in short, is why I need a gay gaming BFF. | ||
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iNfeRnaL
Germany1908 Posts
On the other hand the 0815 nerd might not be very good looking... ioi | ||
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Crystal368
Sweden161 Posts
And the best looking progamer is by far Marineking. No doubt. ^^ HuK is sorta cute, but I dunno. Not my type Although the way he talks is hot haha | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32044 Posts
On March 01 2011 00:34 R1CH wrote: Again I'll go back to my earlier argument, what is normal? Are people with green eyes not normal? Are left-handed people not normal too? I really dislike this "It isn't normal" argument since it's not really an argument at all, it's your viewpoint and it *must* be correct because it "isn't normal" otherwise. Is it really your opinion or are you just following whatever society and religion has molded you into thinking? While it might be nice for you if the gays settled down and you didn't have to see them, you can't realistically expect this to happen when rights and privileges are denied solely on the gender of the person you love. Normal for me in this context is synonymous with what the most common trait is amongst the population. Brown eyes would be normal in the same way that heteros would be normal. Do people use that to demonize gay people, lefties or whatever? Yeah and that's really shitty. It doesn't change the fact that such things are atypical. I don't think he's wrong on that count at all. What he's talking about in the first graph is a matter of semantics. Not being normal isn't necessarily a negative connotation. I see nothing wrong with that. But the whole thing about not being able to adopt, yeah.... | ||
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
On March 01 2011 01:51 iNfeRnaL wrote: I guess TL must be heaven if you're gay. It's like being the only guy on a girl only college or something. On the other hand the 0815 nerd might not be very good looking... ioi indeed. if you're looking for masculine guys, video games is not your best cruising ground. The ones that are usually masculine are straight, and that doesn't benefit you (like it would in real life) because you're not looking at them, you're looking at their typing (I love hanging out with hot straight dudes, even if i will never get with them/hit on them). But for clarity, this thread was never intended to be a cruising ground for gay nerds, it was meant to put forth information that people (both gay and straight) might be interested in, and to allow gays to be aware of each other so they could form a community if they choose. I joined a co-ed gay soccer league 2 years ago, and it really sunk home how important it is to belong to communities that you identify with. While "sc2" is the common hobby between players playing the game, there are other factors in choosing who you surround yourself with in the game (ie: not every sc2 player is friends with every other sc2 player). As far as gender goes, sc2 has a fairly limited pool of people to play with, which is why it * Aside from differences caused by being individuals, do you find that your relationships with each gender are different because of your gender? Do you act the same way around girls than you do with guys? Do you have a preference of which gender you like to hang out with more? When you see a new person 'enter' (ie: your class/party/the bus) do you have the same internal reaction/response? Gay dudes and lesbians are like two additional genders. Hanging out with chicks is not like hanging out with gays, and hanging out with straight dudes is not like hanging out with gays. I was going to attempt to describe why these groups 'feel' different, but that's not really possible. Each person defines these groups differently, and the pertinent piece is that they are different experiences. Personally, this isn't a void that needs filling. I have a very large group of straight and gay friends, and the people i will want to hang out with in sc2 are players of my skill level (cause i play games competitively) and people that make me laugh/enjoy myself (ie: all my old sc/bw friends). But, to repeat myself, after joining the gay soccer league and meeting this other community, I can't imagine not belonging to it, and wanted to provide that opportunity for gays on tl.net that might not have another avenue for creating one. | ||
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
On March 01 2011 01:51 iNfeRnaL wrote: I guess TL must be heaven if you're gay. It's like being the only guy on a girl only college or something. On the other hand the 0815 nerd might not be very good looking... ioi Most people are here are not gay, making it impossible to find the ones that are (except by this thread lol) | ||
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Kickboxer
Slovenia1308 Posts
On March 01 2011 00:34 R1CH wrote: Again I'll go back to my earlier argument, what is normal? Are people with green eyes not normal? Are left-handed people not normal too? I really dislike this "It isn't normal" argument since it's not really an argument at all, it's your viewpoint and it *must* be correct because it "isn't normal" otherwise. Is it really your opinion or are you just following whatever society and religion has molded you into thinking? While it might be nice for you if the gays settled down and you didn't have to see them, you can't realistically expect this to happen when rights and privileges are denied solely on the gender of the person you love. Well this takes a lot of writing to explain. Let me start like this: in this day and age, it is very trendy to be a full blown liberal and an atheist / moral relativist. A lot of this has to do with the facepalm travesty of organized religion and the (wrongful) notion that a presupposed order of things, or call these "morals" if you have to, can only be based on religion. This leads to a general philosophy of "everything is relative, and dandy and equal without any absolute standards" with the exception of intolerance to anything. How intolerance can be inherently wrong within a philosophy that bans any inherent absolutes is something I can't really understand. I personally do not believe in any of these things, although I am not religious nor do I follow any social doctrine. I just think that there is an order in all things which is very easy to see if you are not clouded by ideology of one kind or another, and I consider this order to be very important because it's about the only thing you can hold on to if you don't want to be "religious" but still desire some kind of sincere belief. Day is day, night is night. Men are men, women are women. I like men to be manly and women to be feminine, because that's just the way we are, and there's something really cool about it. You can theorycraft about socially constructed gender roles and such and such for years, but in the end boys will be boys, and girls will be girls, and then there will be the confused people and they are completely ok, too, as long as they don't turn their penis envy into a crusade. What I don't like is the way the gay and radical feminist (in my book lesbian) agenda has been attacking this notion from all sides, demanding all gender lines be erased so that they could fit into the norm. It's blurring the line between women and men and some of us don't want this line gone. This is clearly reflected in your very own examples. Green eyes and being left handed is not what gay is to sexual orientation but what "I like big breasts" or "I like small breasts" is to sexual orientation. Being gay is more like having hooves in place of feet. I'm sorry the sidewalk isn't too comfortable for your hooves but please don't start changing the sidewalk for the rest of us. | ||
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