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Don't post in this thread to say "gay gamers are like everyone else, why do they have a special thread?" It is something that has been posted numerous times, and this isn't the place for that discussion.

For regular posters, don't quote the trolls.
chocopan
Profile Joined April 2010
Japan986 Posts
February 28 2011 13:51 GMT
#941
On February 28 2011 22:46 Kickboxer wrote:
It's not normal to be gay, this is as plain as the nose on your face. If it were normal gay people could conceive children and men would have a spare vagina and women a spare penis.


You've lost me. Can you elucidate?
Dance those ultras
playa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1284 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-28 14:18:59
February 28 2011 14:18 GMT
#942
48 pages and I always see this thread listed at the top of Tl community. I was starting to get the vibe that everyone on this site must be gay, so curiosity got the best of me. As a straight guy, shouldn't you be a fan of gay people in the sense that there should be less "competition" for you? I hope all of you become gay...As for "normalcy," a lot of things aren't normal. Being good at something in a relative sense isn't normal. It's irrelevant, though, if it's not inherently bad/wrong. Unless there really is a god, who can really have the final say on something like this?
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
February 28 2011 14:42 GMT
#943
Personally I'm not gay, but I'm a macrophile http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macrophilia

Now when I'm older I realize I was into that a long time before I even started being interested in girls lol, and I think it's the same most of the times with homosexuality.
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
February 28 2011 14:59 GMT
#944
Hey guys, how do you view the term 'what a gay rush' or when a someone calls a 'weird' exploitative play 'gay'?

Sort of like when someone minbet minraises in poker and I go on how 'lol this is so gay', will you see it as an insult if you are sitting at my table/can I get my ass kicked by using the term gay in this way?
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
thehitman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1105 Posts
February 28 2011 15:07 GMT
#945
On February 28 2011 00:41 KissKiss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2011 22:26 thehitman wrote:
I strongly believe that people are being given hormone reducer pills to people through vaccines, water, food products, etc... that over time and I'm talking Grandfather>father>son and the son becomes gay or daughter becomes lesbian, whatever.

You will notice that gayness is on the increase and this is due to the hormone reducer products that reduce naturally created hormones in very specific quantities.

Now is there a conspiracy theory about this or is it that we just randomly put too much chemicals in our food and not fully understood chemicals in the vaccines I don't know.

But if you take your attention and read on your most commonly eaten products and write down all the chemicals it contains you will be amazed. There is barely anything organic or natural, its 70-80% all chemicals. Even food like chicken is full of chemicals they consume over the course of the chickens life and its not a natural meat like if you were to eat a chicken found in the wilderness.

And when you take the time to read about pills and vaccines and possible side effects you will know that each has side effects and in some cases medical side effects not listed on the manual. Now who is to say these don't effect the hormones in certain percent of people and making the natural process of creating say 0.023ml of hormone B to create 0.011 of hormone B.


Could it be possible for there to be gays naturally? of course as its possible to have people born with a lot of negative stuff, but not in the number we are seeing gays popping up.

I mean imagine if everyone was gay, how on earth will our human race survive?

Ok, thats some grade A paranoia there.

Homosexuality has been around since the dawn of time. Not just humans too, pretty sure antelope aren't going gay because of whats in the water. You might perceive homosexuality to be on the increase, but I think thats probably because a larger proportion are openly gay now and also because TV gives more airtime to your lisping camp type than is really proportional. Anyway, remember Ancient Greece? Yeah, those guys loved cock. Also one of the more advanced civilisations of its era.

As for all this chemicals in the food stuff, yeah, you got precisely zero evidence so you may as well correlate a increase in homosexuality with, idk, computer usage.

Oh so you've been alive for thousands of years and that us why you know that homosexuality has been there forever.

I don't see how you can even think to say that.

As far as chemicals in food there is all the evidence in the world, just read the frakin label where it writes ingredients

And not to mention the stuff that isn't written on the label, like for example coca cola secret ingredient, you basically can be drinking piss and not know about it.

And how the frak do you know antelopes are gay?" Have you been alive for thousand of years and been a gay antelope?
jarrydesque
Profile Joined November 2010
584 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-28 15:30:31
February 28 2011 15:29 GMT
#946
On February 28 2011 23:59 LemOn wrote:
Hey guys, how do you view the term 'what a gay rush' or when a someone calls a 'weird' exploitative play 'gay'?

Sort of like when someone minbet minraises in poker and I go on how 'lol this is so gay', will you see it as an insult if you are sitting at my table/can I get my ass kicked by using the term gay in this way?


Quite a couple of people have asked this in the thread already - if you scroll back a couple of pages you can read some responses.

The general feel is no - It's generally accepted that people call everything gay, regardless of how gay it is. I often say it just because I'm so used to hearing it and my friends say it all the time.

P.S. "Have you been alive for thousand of years and been a gay antelope?"

This made me lol hard.
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fidelity
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden410 Posts
February 28 2011 15:29 GMT
#947
On March 01 2011 00:07 thehitman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2011 00:41 KissKiss wrote:
On February 27 2011 22:26 thehitman wrote:
I strongly believe that people are being given hormone reducer pills to people through vaccines, water, food products, etc... that over time and I'm talking Grandfather>father>son and the son becomes gay or daughter becomes lesbian, whatever.

You will notice that gayness is on the increase and this is due to the hormone reducer products that reduce naturally created hormones in very specific quantities.

Now is there a conspiracy theory about this or is it that we just randomly put too much chemicals in our food and not fully understood chemicals in the vaccines I don't know.

But if you take your attention and read on your most commonly eaten products and write down all the chemicals it contains you will be amazed. There is barely anything organic or natural, its 70-80% all chemicals. Even food like chicken is full of chemicals they consume over the course of the chickens life and its not a natural meat like if you were to eat a chicken found in the wilderness.

And when you take the time to read about pills and vaccines and possible side effects you will know that each has side effects and in some cases medical side effects not listed on the manual. Now who is to say these don't effect the hormones in certain percent of people and making the natural process of creating say 0.023ml of hormone B to create 0.011 of hormone B.


Could it be possible for there to be gays naturally? of course as its possible to have people born with a lot of negative stuff, but not in the number we are seeing gays popping up.

I mean imagine if everyone was gay, how on earth will our human race survive?

Ok, thats some grade A paranoia there.

Homosexuality has been around since the dawn of time. Not just humans too, pretty sure antelope aren't going gay because of whats in the water. You might perceive homosexuality to be on the increase, but I think thats probably because a larger proportion are openly gay now and also because TV gives more airtime to your lisping camp type than is really proportional. Anyway, remember Ancient Greece? Yeah, those guys loved cock. Also one of the more advanced civilisations of its era.

As for all this chemicals in the food stuff, yeah, you got precisely zero evidence so you may as well correlate a increase in homosexuality with, idk, computer usage.

Oh so you've been alive for thousands of years and that us why you know that homosexuality has been there forever.

I don't see how you can even think to say that.

As far as chemicals in food there is all the evidence in the world, just read the frakin label where it writes ingredients

And not to mention the stuff that isn't written on the label, like for example coca cola secret ingredient, you basically can be drinking piss and not know about it.

And how the frak do you know antelopes are gay?" Have you been alive for thousand of years and been a gay antelope?


You're not making any sense. Of course you can see if an animal is gay or not, gay is about being attracted to the same gender, it's not space science.
zocktol
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1928 Posts
February 28 2011 15:30 GMT
#948
On March 01 2011 00:07 thehitman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2011 00:41 KissKiss wrote:
On February 27 2011 22:26 thehitman wrote:
I strongly believe that people are being given hormone reducer pills to people through vaccines, water, food products, etc... that over time and I'm talking Grandfather>father>son and the son becomes gay or daughter becomes lesbian, whatever.

You will notice that gayness is on the increase and this is due to the hormone reducer products that reduce naturally created hormones in very specific quantities.

Now is there a conspiracy theory about this or is it that we just randomly put too much chemicals in our food and not fully understood chemicals in the vaccines I don't know.

But if you take your attention and read on your most commonly eaten products and write down all the chemicals it contains you will be amazed. There is barely anything organic or natural, its 70-80% all chemicals. Even food like chicken is full of chemicals they consume over the course of the chickens life and its not a natural meat like if you were to eat a chicken found in the wilderness.

And when you take the time to read about pills and vaccines and possible side effects you will know that each has side effects and in some cases medical side effects not listed on the manual. Now who is to say these don't effect the hormones in certain percent of people and making the natural process of creating say 0.023ml of hormone B to create 0.011 of hormone B.


Could it be possible for there to be gays naturally? of course as its possible to have people born with a lot of negative stuff, but not in the number we are seeing gays popping up.

I mean imagine if everyone was gay, how on earth will our human race survive?

Ok, thats some grade A paranoia there.

Homosexuality has been around since the dawn of time. Not just humans too, pretty sure antelope aren't going gay because of whats in the water. You might perceive homosexuality to be on the increase, but I think thats probably because a larger proportion are openly gay now and also because TV gives more airtime to your lisping camp type than is really proportional. Anyway, remember Ancient Greece? Yeah, those guys loved cock. Also one of the more advanced civilisations of its era.

As for all this chemicals in the food stuff, yeah, you got precisely zero evidence so you may as well correlate a increase in homosexuality with, idk, computer usage.

Oh so you've been alive for thousands of years and that us why you know that homosexuality has been there forever.

I don't see how you can even think to say that.

As far as chemicals in food there is all the evidence in the world, just read the frakin label where it writes ingredients

And not to mention the stuff that isn't written on the label, like for example coca cola secret ingredient, you basically can be drinking piss and not know about it.

And how the frak do you know antelopes are gay?" Have you been alive for thousand of years and been a gay antelope?


Are you trying to argue, that homosexuality is an unnatural development in humanity, because of chemical influences? The only influence i know of is that certain chemicals and plastic bottles can lead to an change in hormone levels in males. The Anti-Baby-Pill is especially dangerous consicdering that, because the active agent, survives even when released into nature by females, thus contaminating water. But this makes you more female(man boobs) but does not turn you gay.
And chemicals in food like axcorbic acid, i would not worry about them.

On the other hand homosexual males are believed to commit adultery with females, at least in the animal kingdom, which with lions for example leads to children, that are protected not by one but two adult male lions. Guess thats not that big of an advantage is it?
Here you will find a list of Homosexual Animals. If you do not believe Wikipedia in itself, then just follow the citations, i dare you.
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10340 Posts
February 28 2011 15:34 GMT
#949
On February 28 2011 22:46 Kickboxer wrote:
Hmm I hope I don't get banned for expressing my opinion but in my mind one massive problem of contemporary homosexuals is their insistence on being "normal". It's not normal to be gay, this is as plain as the nose on your face. If it were normal gay people could conceive children and men would have a spare vagina and women a spare penis. I know animals can be gay, too, but they can also have cancer or be batshit crazy hence this argument is completely off.

I think gay people should really settle on the public perception of the "harmless deviant" instead of lobbying for the position of the "other kind of normal" and for stuff like adopting children because this makes the whole matter a lot harder to stomach for people who view things in different terms.


Again I'll go back to my earlier argument, what is normal? Are people with green eyes not normal? Are left-handed people not normal too? I really dislike this "It isn't normal" argument since it's not really an argument at all, it's your viewpoint and it *must* be correct because it "isn't normal" otherwise. Is it really your opinion or are you just following whatever society and religion has molded you into thinking?

While it might be nice for you if the gays settled down and you didn't have to see them, you can't realistically expect this to happen when rights and privileges are denied solely on the gender of the person you love.
AdministratorTwitter: @R1CH_TL
betaV1.25
Profile Joined April 2010
425 Posts
February 28 2011 15:43 GMT
#950
R1CH, I think "normal" is what people people are taught. If you hear day in day out that something is disgusting and not normal for years and years rational arguments like yours are not enough to make people change their mind.

I think it takes alot of time and interaction with gays befor people like Kickboxer can ever see that gays are just... people.
foppa
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada451 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-28 16:08:56
February 28 2011 16:08 GMT
#951
normal and socially acceptable go hand in hand. the gays are not saying they want to be normal. they are fighting for rights and as we (the government through law) give them more and more rights, they become normal. If government law says its okay, then it is socially acceptable and thus normal.
i can take you
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 28 2011 16:21 GMT
#952
Gays are both normal and abnormal. From the dictionary.com definition:

Normal: conforming to the standard or the common type; usual; not abnormal; regular; natural.

Gays evidently don't conform to the standard or the common type, and they're not 'usual' like heteros are. But it is also normal in that it's natural (as evidenced by the presence of homsexuality in the animal world).

Really what R1ch says is correct. Lefthandedness or green eyes aren't 'normal' either, but it's totally irrelevant. Starcraft 2 players are much less 'normal' than homosexual people.
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WLV
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada76 Posts
February 28 2011 16:24 GMT
#953
On February 24 2011 12:11 SilverWolfe wrote:
Hey bumping this thread because I think it deserves to stay alive. I got into SC2 about a year ago and I'm pretty much gay (occasionally I get turned on by girls I guess and experimented with them). I feel like being a gay starcraft player is so unusual, haven't met another in real before.

I also think HuK is really hot <3


way to go bump a dead thread.

ur homosexual (please be politically correct), and u play SC2. NO correlation whatsoever.
please keep your sexual preferences outside of the gaming world because they neither contribute, nor take away from the game. creating this unnecessary division is useless. as the OP said, this isnt about sc2. go read his list of what he wants this thread to be about.

User was temp banned for this post.
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Avila
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada39 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-28 16:47:23
February 28 2011 16:41 GMT
#954
1) What about for fabulous women to find gaming gay BFF"s? Cause thats what im in the market for these days.
2) I dont need to ask questions- I have been in theatre for many years so having a Will to ur Grace is normal to me.. my gaming gay bff left me to go to college and I am missing his presence in my gaming life. Plus all the queers seem partial to WoW and I dont play that anymore.
3) Gaydar does exist, however its not an internal measurement type thing - its just your experience telling what signs gave way to the flashing red queer sign. I learned this years ago after having my heart broken by a a very sexy, singing and dancing man.. ( i suppose the latter would have been a good sign )

Mora- no fag is complete without a hag!
Msg me and lets get this party started. unless you hate lady gaga then i want nothing to do with you.

<3 avila. oh and im canadian which already makes us kindred spirits.


oh and heres the reason gaygaming bffs are the best-
Men who are straight and game and know ur a girl just hit on you - say offensive things etc
Women who game ( with the odd exception) - are one of two things - fat/ugly/weird/ and cant get attention from men anywhere else so they come to games, and since SC isnt a mmo that filters a lot of those ppls. Or they play cause their bf's do which means they probably suck and want to hang out with their bf's anyway

I play with my bf but i dont play CAUSE of him. I play cause i like to kick ppls ass.

So that in short, is why I need a gay gaming BFF.

"If you're not 1st, you're last"
iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
February 28 2011 16:51 GMT
#955
I guess TL must be heaven if you're gay. It's like being the only guy on a girl only college or something.
On the other hand the 0815 nerd might not be very good looking... ioi
Crystal368
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden161 Posts
February 28 2011 17:15 GMT
#956
I'm bisexual, does that count?

And the best looking progamer is by far Marineking. No doubt. ^^
HuK is sorta cute, but I dunno. Not my type Although the way he talks is hot haha
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32044 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-28 17:31:53
February 28 2011 17:30 GMT
#957
On March 01 2011 00:34 R1CH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2011 22:46 Kickboxer wrote:
Hmm I hope I don't get banned for expressing my opinion but in my mind one massive problem of contemporary homosexuals is their insistence on being "normal". It's not normal to be gay, this is as plain as the nose on your face. If it were normal gay people could conceive children and men would have a spare vagina and women a spare penis. I know animals can be gay, too, but they can also have cancer or be batshit crazy hence this argument is completely off.

I think gay people should really settle on the public perception of the "harmless deviant" instead of lobbying for the position of the "other kind of normal" and for stuff like adopting children because this makes the whole matter a lot harder to stomach for people who view things in different terms.


Again I'll go back to my earlier argument, what is normal? Are people with green eyes not normal? Are left-handed people not normal too? I really dislike this "It isn't normal" argument since it's not really an argument at all, it's your viewpoint and it *must* be correct because it "isn't normal" otherwise. Is it really your opinion or are you just following whatever society and religion has molded you into thinking?

While it might be nice for you if the gays settled down and you didn't have to see them, you can't realistically expect this to happen when rights and privileges are denied solely on the gender of the person you love.


Normal for me in this context is synonymous with what the most common trait is amongst the population. Brown eyes would be normal in the same way that heteros would be normal. Do people use that to demonize gay people, lefties or whatever? Yeah and that's really shitty. It doesn't change the fact that such things are atypical. I don't think he's wrong on that count at all.

What he's talking about in the first graph is a matter of semantics. Not being normal isn't necessarily a negative connotation. I see nothing wrong with that. But the whole thing about not being able to adopt, yeah....
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Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
February 28 2011 17:33 GMT
#958
On March 01 2011 01:51 iNfeRnaL wrote:
I guess TL must be heaven if you're gay. It's like being the only guy on a girl only college or something.
On the other hand the 0815 nerd might not be very good looking... ioi


indeed.

if you're looking for masculine guys, video games is not your best cruising ground. The ones that are usually masculine are straight, and that doesn't benefit you (like it would in real life) because you're not looking at them, you're looking at their typing (I love hanging out with hot straight dudes, even if i will never get with them/hit on them).

But for clarity, this thread was never intended to be a cruising ground for gay nerds, it was meant to put forth information that people (both gay and straight) might be interested in, and to allow gays to be aware of each other so they could form a community if they choose.

I joined a co-ed gay soccer league 2 years ago, and it really sunk home how important it is to belong to communities that you identify with. While "sc2" is the common hobby between players playing the game, there are other factors in choosing who you surround yourself with in the game (ie: not every sc2 player is friends with every other sc2 player).

As far as gender goes, sc2 has a fairly limited pool of people to play with, which is why it would may feel important for gays to find one anther. Some questions to elaborate this point:
* Aside from differences caused by being individuals, do you find that your relationships with each gender are different because of your gender? Do you act the same way around girls than you do with guys? Do you have a preference of which gender you like to hang out with more? When you see a new person 'enter' (ie: your class/party/the bus) do you have the same internal reaction/response?

Gay dudes and lesbians are like two additional genders. Hanging out with chicks is not like hanging out with gays, and hanging out with straight dudes is not like hanging out with gays.

I was going to attempt to describe why these groups 'feel' different, but that's not really possible. Each person defines these groups differently, and the pertinent piece is that they are different experiences.

Personally, this isn't a void that needs filling. I have a very large group of straight and gay friends, and the people i will want to hang out with in sc2 are players of my skill level (cause i play games competitively) and people that make me laugh/enjoy myself (ie: all my old sc/bw friends). But, to repeat myself, after joining the gay soccer league and meeting this other community, I can't imagine not belonging to it, and wanted to provide that opportunity for gays on tl.net that might not have another avenue for creating one.
Happiness only real when shared.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
February 28 2011 18:12 GMT
#959
On March 01 2011 01:51 iNfeRnaL wrote:
I guess TL must be heaven if you're gay. It's like being the only guy on a girl only college or something.
On the other hand the 0815 nerd might not be very good looking... ioi


Most people are here are not gay, making it impossible to find the ones that are (except by this thread lol)
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Kickboxer
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Slovenia1308 Posts
February 28 2011 18:30 GMT
#960
On March 01 2011 00:34 R1CH wrote:
Again I'll go back to my earlier argument, what is normal? Are people with green eyes not normal? Are left-handed people not normal too? I really dislike this "It isn't normal" argument since it's not really an argument at all, it's your viewpoint and it *must* be correct because it "isn't normal" otherwise. Is it really your opinion or are you just following whatever society and religion has molded you into thinking?

While it might be nice for you if the gays settled down and you didn't have to see them, you can't realistically expect this to happen when rights and privileges are denied solely on the gender of the person you love.


Well this takes a lot of writing to explain. Let me start like this: in this day and age, it is very trendy to be a full blown liberal and an atheist / moral relativist. A lot of this has to do with the facepalm travesty of organized religion and the (wrongful) notion that a presupposed order of things, or call these "morals" if you have to, can only be based on religion.

This leads to a general philosophy of "everything is relative, and dandy and equal without any absolute standards" with the exception of intolerance to anything. How intolerance can be inherently wrong within a philosophy that bans any inherent absolutes is something I can't really understand.

I personally do not believe in any of these things, although I am not religious nor do I follow any social doctrine. I just think that there is an order in all things which is very easy to see if you are not clouded by ideology of one kind or another, and I consider this order to be very important because it's about the only thing you can hold on to if you don't want to be "religious" but still desire some kind of sincere belief.

Day is day, night is night. Men are men, women are women. I like men to be manly and women to be feminine, because that's just the way we are, and there's something really cool about it.

You can theorycraft about socially constructed gender roles and such and such for years, but in the end boys will be boys, and girls will be girls, and then there will be the confused people and they are completely ok, too, as long as they don't turn their penis envy into a crusade.

What I don't like is the way the gay and radical feminist (in my book lesbian) agenda has been attacking this notion from all sides, demanding all gender lines be erased so that they could fit into the norm. It's blurring the line between women and men and some of us don't want this line gone.

This is clearly reflected in your very own examples. Green eyes and being left handed is not what gay is to sexual orientation but what "I like big breasts" or "I like small breasts" is to sexual orientation. Being gay is more like having hooves in place of feet. I'm sorry the sidewalk isn't too comfortable for your hooves but please don't start changing the sidewalk for the rest of us.
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