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Don't post in this thread to say "gay gamers are like everyone else, why do they have a special thread?" It is something that has been posted numerous times, and this isn't the place for that discussion.

For regular posters, don't quote the trolls.
TheLastTemplar
Profile Joined February 2012
Iceland593 Posts
November 21 2013 19:46 GMT
#7121
Drekk this is a huge breakthrough for me, bully zach into letting us stay @ his place!
ladadidadi
Drekkonis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada286 Posts
November 22 2013 03:22 GMT
#7122
ugh, I am going to have to pass, the bus tickets are more expensive than I thought since its so last minute, wish I had gotten the tickets earlier (won the tickets on a Day9 twitter contest)
the difference between our skill is like heaven and hell
TotalBalanceSC2
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada475 Posts
November 28 2013 23:42 GMT
#7123
Does anyone have any good pointers for coming out, I honestly have no idea where to start, specifically because at the moment I really don't feel the need to come out (though I'm thinking this is just me trying to convince myself not to do it). At the same time, just waiting forever doesn't seem like a good option though and I feel like that is what my situation is becoming, a sort of "if not now, then when?" thing. My biggest reason for not coming out is probably my parents since they are somewhat conservative Catholics (my mother being more conservative than my father). I honestly have no idea how they would react though, but I suspect it would range from neutral to negative. I don't think my friends would care much, though I'm probably the last person they would assume is gay, so it might be a slight surprise to them but not much more. On the whole this just seems like such an inconvenience and so I keep pushing it off indefinitely. How do people do this......
Drekkonis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada286 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-29 19:05:06
November 29 2013 19:04 GMT
#7124
Another Canadian!

my pointers are :

- Get a support center: Start with someone who you think is the most liberal minded usually a female friend but also your closest friend or a sibling. Chances are they already knew/suspected and wanted you to tell them.

- Nobody cares as much as you think they do: This applies atleast I find in most metropolitan Cities (especially Canadian ones) , alot of the time you get caught up with how you think people will react or what they might say but majority of people are too caught up in their own lives to really care and we are in 2013/2014 where having a gay friend can be seen as being very liberal and even "cool" to certain people.


- Tell Family in a controlled environment: Don't tell your parents at a family function where other auxillary members of the family around and weight in, or some public function. That way if one or both of your parents go through stages of grief or denial they have plenty of time to get it out of their system before others put their 2 cents in.

- Negative reaction ~ if your parents blame themselves they will likely come to accept you for who you are : usually if parents assign blame they already accept it as something that can't be changed and after stages of grief and denial will likely tell you "we love you for who you are"


At the end of the day do it when you feel ready but like jumping in a cold pool, you just got to do it. It gets easier the more comfortable you get with it.
the difference between our skill is like heaven and hell
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
December 02 2013 18:36 GMT
#7125
Glad to see that there is strong opposition, but depressing nonetheless
On Sunday, two-thirds of Croatians voted to ban same-sex marriage, but on Twitter the story felt very different. It was an introspective moment - Croatia and #Croatia were the two top trending terms, followed by #referendum. The pro-gay marriage hashtag #protiv came in fourth and the fifth most popular term was the word "ashamed" - in English. "I was never proud to be from Croatia, but today I'm ashamed," was one tweet. "This is the day when pure common sense lost the battle. Ashamed to be Croat," was another.

Every Croatian citizen had been given the right to vote in the referendum, so this was a particularly clear case study in how views expressed on social media can be quite different from mass public opinion. A study by the Pew Research Center earlier this year found that opinions expressed on Twitter in the US matched public opinion surveys in just two out of eight political issues they studied. Twitter views were more liberal in some cases, and more conservative in others.
In Croatia, the Twitter profile is clearly more liberal, at least on same-sex marriage, than the real-life picture. Twitter users in Croatia tend to be more educated and live in cities and towns, according to analysts. In some rural areas in the south of the country, 98% voted in favour of the ban. The Catholic Church in Croatia backed the referendum. "Priests in sermons have been talking about this," says political analyst Zarko Puhovski. Many Croatians would have gone straight from church on Sunday to the polls, he says. Almost 90% of Croatians are Catholic.

Same-sex marriage is a big topic on social media around the world, but the Twitter debate is quite different in each country. After France legalised same-sex marriage earlier this year, a flurry of anti-gay hashtags were used - including one which translates as "death to gays". One of the most popular pro-gay marriage hashtags is #loveislove, which trends each time a US state legalises same-sex marriage, and has been used five times by President Obama.

Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-25184483
Hermes__
Profile Joined July 2013
4 Posts
December 07 2013 02:04 GMT
#7126
I feel like there should be an LGBTQ SC2 clan! I wish there was a way to have multiple Tags so you don't have to leave your current one. =(
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
December 12 2013 15:45 GMT
#7127
Sad times in India. The more I learn about the relative wisdom of the leaders of our largest countries the more depressing society appears to me. In what reasonable institution can you penalize someone for doing something you arbitrarily describe as unnatural, with no unwilling parties, as harshly as life in prison.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
December 19 2013 06:28 GMT
#7128
Doubt there are many Duck Dynasty fans in this thread, but I thought I'd post this bit anyways: Phil Robertson indefinitely suspended over remarks on homosexuals.

TL Duck Dynasty thread, to the latest post.

Discuss.
┬─┬___(ツ)_/¯ 彡┻━┻ I am the 4%. "I cant believe i saw ANAL backwards before i saw the word LAN." - Capped
Klondikebar
Profile Joined October 2011
United States2227 Posts
December 19 2013 15:36 GMT
#7129
IMO he's a stupid bigot. He's allowed to express his shitty beliefs and whatnot but he's not expressing them in a vacuum. The majority of defenses for him I've heard have gone along the lines of "he's just expressing his opinions therefore you are not allowed to criticize him." This is bullshit. If you offer up your opinions to the public you are opening yourself up to criticism. In conclusion, meh, he's old, he'll die soon. After a brief string of swear words I have no more thoughts on the subject.
#2throwed
TotalBalanceSC2
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada475 Posts
December 19 2013 20:44 GMT
#7130
I don't know what else anyone would expect a conservative, highly religious redneck who was born in the 40's to say on the matter. That being said, it's the channels right to suspend him from the show over his views if they so choose.
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
December 20 2013 00:20 GMT
#7131
How would you say his opinion and his expression of it compares to that of other vocal conservatives and those of a right-ish inclination, those that disagree with the socially liberal opinion on the matter? Others appear much more hostile in both their intent and delivery.
┬─┬___(ツ)_/¯ 彡┻━┻ I am the 4%. "I cant believe i saw ANAL backwards before i saw the word LAN." - Capped
TotalBalanceSC2
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada475 Posts
December 20 2013 01:33 GMT
#7132
On December 20 2013 09:20 cLAN.Anax wrote:
How would you say his opinion and his expression of it compares to that of other vocal conservatives and those of a right-ish inclination, those that disagree with the socially liberal opinion on the matter? Others appear much more hostile in both their intent and delivery.


The opinion of disliking homosexuality is certainly there to the same extent, he goes as far as to compare it to bestiality. His intent likely isn't as hostile since he doesn't have a base to fire up, The crazy radio hosts who tend to be the most vitriolic have a reason to express their disgust for homosexuality as forcefully and often as hatefully as possible since that is what gets them listeners. In the end I think it is the same opinion being expressed by both groups, just one group has a reason to express that opinion as forcefully as possible so that they can get recognition.
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
December 20 2013 03:01 GMT
#7133
On December 20 2013 10:33 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2013 09:20 cLAN.Anax wrote:
How would you say his opinion and his expression of it compares to that of other vocal conservatives and those of a right-ish inclination, those that disagree with the socially liberal opinion on the matter? Others appear much more hostile in both their intent and delivery.


The opinion of disliking homosexuality is certainly there to the same extent, he goes as far as to compare it to bestiality. His intent likely isn't as hostile since he doesn't have a base to fire up, The crazy radio hosts who tend to be the most vitriolic have a reason to express their disgust for homosexuality as forcefully and often as hatefully as possible since that is what gets them listeners. In the end I think it is the same opinion being expressed by both groups, just one group has a reason to express that opinion as forcefully as possible so that they can get recognition.


I took the reference to bestiality as more of a warning of what society will accept morally should it continue down the road he sees, not a direct comparison to homosexual tendencies. From the original article, page 2:

GQ: What, in your mind, is sinful?

Robertson: Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men.


In fact, now that I read it with all the context, it sounds like he's just listing off a few of the things he considers sins, two of them happening to be bestiality and homosexual conduct. Like, he sees them both as morally reprehensible, and equally reprehensible to promiscuous heterosexual relations. O_o


And the show has over 10 million raving fans. Not all are "Bible-thumping Christians," of course, but it's a base, nonetheless, lol.
┬─┬___(ツ)_/¯ 彡┻━┻ I am the 4%. "I cant believe i saw ANAL backwards before i saw the word LAN." - Capped
mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
December 20 2013 05:35 GMT
#7134
I'm not sure what A&E or GQ expected his answers to be if not this. I haven't watched Duck Dynasty, and all of my information is coming from the article itself, but it seems as though this was an expected response. Maybe I just don't know how interviews are typically moderated.

That being said, as his employer, A&E has a right to fire him if they don't like something he says while on the job, just as any of us could be fired for the same reason. I personally don't care that he said anything about homosexuality at all, but if his bosses do, then they have the right to punish him for doing so. That bit seems pretty cut and dry.

As for what he actually said, I tried for a while to put all of my thoughts into words, but ultimately it doesn't matter. The way he phrased the quote above could indicate that he believes that acceptance of homosexuality will lead to bestiality as you previously though (which it will not, as they are distinctly different because animals cannot give consent), or as you later mention he could have simply been listing similarly-immoral acts (though it's funny that the most sinful things that come to his mind are all sexual acts). But either way, it doesn't mean anything. Those that agree with him are going to continue agreeing with him, those who disagree with him are going to continue disagreeing with him, and he's going to keep using faulty logic to validate his views, likely without ever actually thinking about them ever again.
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 20 2013 11:38 GMT
#7135
On December 20 2013 12:01 cLAN.Anax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2013 10:33 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:
On December 20 2013 09:20 cLAN.Anax wrote:
How would you say his opinion and his expression of it compares to that of other vocal conservatives and those of a right-ish inclination, those that disagree with the socially liberal opinion on the matter? Others appear much more hostile in both their intent and delivery.


The opinion of disliking homosexuality is certainly there to the same extent, he goes as far as to compare it to bestiality. His intent likely isn't as hostile since he doesn't have a base to fire up, The crazy radio hosts who tend to be the most vitriolic have a reason to express their disgust for homosexuality as forcefully and often as hatefully as possible since that is what gets them listeners. In the end I think it is the same opinion being expressed by both groups, just one group has a reason to express that opinion as forcefully as possible so that they can get recognition.


I took the reference to bestiality as more of a warning of what society will accept morally should it continue down the road he sees, not a direct comparison to homosexual tendencies. From the original article, page 2:


There's no distinction, a leading path = a comparison.

You don't say, "oh, society is going downhill because more people are being mugged in the street, the next step is bestiality!" do you? No, because it makes no sense.

Just as it makes no sense with homosexuality either.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Klondikebar
Profile Joined October 2011
United States2227 Posts
December 20 2013 17:18 GMT
#7136
On December 20 2013 14:35 mkfuba07 wrote:
But either way, it doesn't mean anything. Those that agree with him are going to continue agreeing with him, those who disagree with him are going to continue disagreeing with him, and he's going to keep using faulty logic to validate his views, likely without ever actually thinking about them ever again.


God ain't that the truth. Talking, even with people I know in real life, has been an enormous chore. At first I was surprised that people weren't also outraged by his heinous racism but then I remembered people outright defended Paula Dean's racism so...basically people decide the conclusion first and then just argue for it. Phil Roberston is good and therefore everything bad he's said and done can be explained away.
#2throwed
Drekkonis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada286 Posts
December 20 2013 22:04 GMT
#7137
Happy Homo Holidays my comrades.

Who is doing what for Christmas?

Who is going down to Enterprise's for New Years?
the difference between our skill is like heaven and hell
Silverfoxx
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States184 Posts
December 28 2013 00:16 GMT
#7138
Relationships are weird.

That is all.

Not really a story to go along with this. Just a thought in a dead thread.
The fox is back.
Drekkonis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada286 Posts
December 30 2013 04:43 GMT
#7139
such a random post... Relationships are far from weird, they are pretty predictable.
the difference between our skill is like heaven and hell
mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
December 30 2013 07:47 GMT
#7140
In some cases they are only predictable in their absence.
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
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