EPTTL Health and Fitness Initiative 2010 - Page 52
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
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hejakev
Sweden518 Posts
On June 05 2010 07:47 gzealot wrote: ah, you are mistaken. Right now I am in the States, summer ftw. I am using the gym in university right now. We have almost identical builds. I'm 6'2", 155 lbs and my gym routine is almost exactly the same except I've been doing more reps with 25-30 lb weights on the military press. Are your weighted sit-ups your only ab routine? | ||
KizZBG
u gotta skate8152 Posts
I've noticed that the only time I get them is when I "shock" my body by doing a new exercise or for example when I take some time off. I didn't deadlift for a couple of weeks due to a minor injury, I came back to continue doing them and got sore but never again after that. Same thing happened with squats lol. | ||
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unknown.sam
Philippines2701 Posts
On June 04 2010 07:30 eshlow wrote: Yup. The great part is that it usually comes back approximately 3-5x as fast does that mean i'll still be able to surpass what i was lifting before? i think i stalled 3 times before the 2 month layoff. and i'm not working out as often now as i used to (only 2x/week as compared to 3x before i took time off). On June 05 2010 12:32 KizZBG wrote: erm, does anyone else rarely get DOMS? They're not an indicator of a good workout right? I've noticed that the only time I get them is when I "shock" my body by doing a new exercise or for example when I take some time off. I didn't deadlift for a couple of weeks due to a minor injury, I came back to continue doing them and got sore but never again after that. Same thing happened with squats lol. yeah that's normal. like right now my chest, shoulder and back are sore from doing dips and pull ups. i hadn't done those in a while hence the doms. you proly wont get doms anymore after the 2nd workout or so. | ||
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Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
On June 05 2010 12:32 KizZBG wrote: erm, does anyone else rarely get DOMS? They're not an indicator of a good workout right? I've noticed that the only time I get them is when I "shock" my body by doing a new exercise or for example when I take some time off. I didn't deadlift for a couple of weeks due to a minor injury, I came back to continue doing them and got sore but never again after that. Same thing happened with squats lol. It's never really a good indicator. I pretty much never get doms except on deadlift days and it usually doesn't happen if I just foam roll afterward. When you take time off it tends to kick in pretty hard for the first few workouts. | ||
Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4511 Posts
 appearently my posture is really bad combined w/ mobile joints i lifted too heavy on the military press, my arms fell back mid exersize and i heard a snap, now a small piece of bone often gets stuck between 2 muscles every so often and it hurts. Now my shoulder rotates when doing any lifting to compensate for the pain, instead of maintaining proper form.. might take a long time to recover i was told - trying to work on my posture.. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On June 05 2010 17:50 ret wrote: I fucked up my shoulder and haven't been able to do anything for almost 4 weeks. I am sad appearently my posture is really bad combined w/ mobile joints i lifted too heavy on the military press, my arms fell back mid exersize and i heard a snap, now a small piece of bone often gets stuck between 2 muscles every so often and it hurts. Now my shoulder rotates when doing any lifting to compensate for the pain, instead of maintaining proper form.. might take a long time to recover i was told - trying to work on my posture.. Errr, have you gotten that checked out by a doc? | ||
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Trezeguet
United States2656 Posts
On June 05 2010 22:30 eshlow wrote: Errr, have you gotten that checked out by a doc? Yeah, that sounds maybe like it won't just get better with time? | ||
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baumer
United States34 Posts
Age: 25 | Height:6ft | Weight: 190 lbs Today's Date 06/05/2010 Target Date: 10/08/2010 (My Wedding!!!) Target weight: 175lbs Training Goals - Consistantly work out 5 times a week Nutrition Goals - Don't eat junk for dinner and don't eat after 8pm So, working full time SUCKS when trying to be healthy. I get home from work and don't want to do anything. But now i have a wedding to work towards so hopefully i can really keep this going. Anyone have thoughts on P90X, in case i missed it earlier... | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
p90x is a great all-around fitness program but if you have specific goals in mind there are surely better ways to reach them. | ||
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RosaParksStoleMySeat
Japan926 Posts
As I said before, I want to use Madcow's 5x5. I'm looking to start conservatively, so although I am guessing my 5RM for bench would be 205~, I will enter it into that excel file as 190~. I don't know about my squat and deadlift maxes as ... well, honestly, I haven't really done many barbell squats or deadlifts. My bench should return pretty fast as I used to be pretty good at it, but my squats and deads may not be too great. Rows and incline bench should be fine. I've got a question though. On Madcow's 5x5, we do squats 3 days a week. Now, I think squats are an awesome lower body workout. They really seem to get everything, and I'm happy to do them. However, with all of the squats I'm doing on Madcow's, is cardio on my off days going to be nothing more than a horrible idea? This is especially relevant because I want to do high intensity interval plyometrics, which involves a lot of exploding up. I don't want to overtrain here, so if anyone has any experience with this, I'd appreciate it. | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
On June 04 2010 21:15 eshlow wrote: Do you have access to DBs? It may be beneficial to try a bunch of unilateral exercises if you're having trouble with a lot of bodyweight or barbell work. That I do. Upon request for my full medical record, here it is. In December 2008 I had a major back fusion from C6-T9, which makes it so I basically can't move any of those vertebrae. I've had some minor back pain ever since. I had to fuse to C5 or C7 (whichever one is higher up) because my brace supported my head, and my neck muscles disappeared, leading to my neck 'kyphosing', leading to one more vertebrae being fused. At this point I had a heart valve replaced a couple months ago through catheter, but am finally off restrictions for that. When I put stress on my back it hurts, although a good portion of that is not having muscles in the area, so I believe this to be cyclical. I went to physical therapy, which wasn't that impressive. They had me using a rowing machine, I think, and then when I wasn't totally screwed up discharged me. I have access to a basic home gym, with dumbbells, barbells, and a few other things I dont' know how to use >< For the last couple months I've been jogging 2 miles a day, so my legs are half decent. However, I am not sure how to go about upper body strength, especially in the back and abdominal muscles. (arms too ><) I'm also small, with a small frame. I'm a guy, about 5'6", and like 125 pounds, which is really tiny. Pre procedure I was like 5'4" and 140, much healthier, but recovering has been hard. Essentially, I"m trying to get a sort of base exercise routine to do, and then work into more difficult stuff. If any of you guys need any information, I'll be glad to give it. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
How does holding a plank or a hollow feel? plank = http://eatingjourney.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/plank.jpg (it can also be done from hands with straight arms, think that's how it is in yoga) hollow = http://i.dailyherald.com/stories/84/normal/84749.jpg (it's harder if u continue the hollow with ur arms and point them behind you) it's a coincidence both pictures are of women btw. good excersizes for men too. | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
http://www.yogajournal.com/poses/finder/browse_categories that has a great assortment of yoga poses. I wouldn't do something if it causes clear pain, but some discomfort is to be expected with some of it. But really, be careful, probably shouldn't do anything that seems like it could be dangerous to you. | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On June 06 2010 01:21 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote: Quick update: As I said before, I want to use Madcow's 5x5. I'm looking to start conservatively, so although I am guessing my 5RM for bench would be 205~, I will enter it into that excel file as 190~. I don't know about my squat and deadlift maxes as ... well, honestly, I haven't really done many barbell squats or deadlifts. My bench should return pretty fast as I used to be pretty good at it, but my squats and deads may not be too great. Rows and incline bench should be fine. I've got a question though. On Madcow's 5x5, we do squats 3 days a week. Now, I think squats are an awesome lower body workout. They really seem to get everything, and I'm happy to do them. However, with all of the squats I'm doing on Madcow's, is cardio on my off days going to be nothing more than a horrible idea? This is especially relevant because I want to do high intensity interval plyometrics, which involves a lot of exploding up. I don't want to overtrain here, so if anyone has any experience with this, I'd appreciate it. The 5x5 is a program by itself. If you try to add anything to it including significant amounts of cardio work you're likely going to be stunting your own progress. If you're going to do a set program ONLY DO THAT PROGRAM. Unless you've been training for 7-10+ years it's unlikely that you can add volume on top of set programs. Remember, football players and other athletes that are doing two-a-days and high volume work have been working out since they were in elementary/middle school -- at least 7-8+ years. On June 06 2010 00:29 baumer wrote: Name:Randy Age: 25 | Height:6ft | Weight: 190 lbs Today's Date 06/05/2010 Target Date: 10/08/2010 (My Wedding!!!) Target weight: 175lbs Training Goals - Consistantly work out 5 times a week Nutrition Goals - Don't eat junk for dinner and don't eat after 8pm So, working full time SUCKS when trying to be healthy. I get home from work and don't want to do anything. But now i have a wedding to work towards so hopefully i can really keep this going. Anyone have thoughts on P90X, in case i missed it earlier... I personally think you would be better suited to do strength work. P90x works because it's fairly high intensity for most people, and the nutrition side is regulated so it forces you to not overeat. If you are one who likes being told what to do for your workouts without much of any planning at all then this may be a decent option for you. On June 06 2010 14:54 Froadac wrote: That I do. Upon request for my full medical record, here it is. In December 2008 I had a major back fusion from C6-T9, which makes it so I basically can't move any of those vertebrae. I've had some minor back pain ever since. I had to fuse to C5 or C7 (whichever one is higher up) because my brace supported my head, and my neck muscles disappeared, leading to my neck 'kyphosing', leading to one more vertebrae being fused. At this point I had a heart valve replaced a couple months ago through catheter, but am finally off restrictions for that. When I put stress on my back it hurts, although a good portion of that is not having muscles in the area, so I believe this to be cyclical. I went to physical therapy, which wasn't that impressive. They had me using a rowing machine, I think, and then when I wasn't totally screwed up discharged me. I have access to a basic home gym, with dumbbells, barbells, and a few other things I dont' know how to use >< For the last couple months I've been jogging 2 miles a day, so my legs are half decent. However, I am not sure how to go about upper body strength, especially in the back and abdominal muscles. (arms too ><) I'm also small, with a small frame. I'm a guy, about 5'6", and like 125 pounds, which is really tiny. Pre procedure I was like 5'4" and 140, much healthier, but recovering has been hard. Essentially, I"m trying to get a sort of base exercise routine to do, and then work into more difficult stuff. If any of you guys need any information, I'll be glad to give it. Can you still row? Like in use a concept 2 rower? this is GREAT for the legs, but doing at rather high intensity if you can stomach it will lead to pretty good back development. Otherwise, you can do a lot of other DB work with incline/decline/flat presses. What can you do here without pain? Can you do dips or pullups without pain? Any type of arm isolation work? compound work like DB rows? Core stuff is OK but that's like a last alterative.. looking to try to get you more bang for your buck exercises here. | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
I haven't done any arm isolation work at all, so any advice on what to do would be good. Pullups are just a tiny bit of bone aching, but certainly nothing dangerous or anything. Thanks for the advice regarding core stuff. I haven't really done any dumbell work at all, so if you could link me to what you mean that would be good. | ||
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decafchicken
United States20022 Posts
I tried using it the other day, doing ~5 minutes with the fan thing closed all the way and didn't really feel much of a workout cardio wise, leg wise, just my traps were really sore lol. | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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