EPTTL Health and Fitness Initiative 2010 - Page 50
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madnessman
United States1581 Posts
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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RosaParksStoleMySeat
Japan926 Posts
After I finish this program, I am going to do a split of Madcow's 5x5 (or another workout possibly) for M/W/F, and 30 minutes of HIIT for T/Th/Sa. I am looking to retain muscle and cut fat. Lately, I have been reading a ridiculous amount about cutting and bulking, and have found that most of the literature separates them into two cycles. Basically, the majority opinion is that to bulk, you have to get fat; Ronnie Coleman looks like a whale on steroids in the off season. Furthermore, everybody assumes that when you cut, you are going to lose some of the muscle that you gained. I am hoping to defy this with my upcoming program. Serious lifters are generally against it, but I do not want an off season and an on season. I want to look good all year. I'll try to update this next month with some pictures of my starting point and progress. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
You can gain muscle without gaining much if any fat except the process will be a lot slower. If you do certain phases like bulk/cut it tends to be a bit quicker than staying lean year round. But of course being lean year round tends to make people's confidence go up a lot so if you're willing to sacrifice gains for that then by all means go for it. I think a lot of people would choose this option | ||
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sibbes
Sweden13 Posts
Erik Carlsson Aka Sibbes Age: 19 || Height: 175cm || Weight: 75kg/165lbs Starting Date: 2010/05/31 || Goal Date:2010/06/30 Weight goals -- + 1-2 kg Current Records -- Bench 70kg/154lbs -- Squat 115kg/253lbs -- Deadlift 150kg/330lbs -- Overhead Press 57kg/125lbs Training goals -- Bench 75kg/165lbs -- Squat 125kg/275lbs -- Deadlift 160kg/352lbs -- Overhead Press 62kg/136lbs Nutrition goals -- Eat more vegetables ;p Misc goals -- Run at least twice a week.. Lift weights four times a week. Still gotta update after this week tho, have not tried to max in a couple of weeks so my weights and goals might be too easy/hard.. But sweet to have a little journal, have been thinking about writing somewhere but all hardcore training forums make me less motivated because of everyone lifting so damn heavy and making me feel week.. SC forum is perfect!  Been reading here like 5 hours a day since beta also, gotta make a first post finally! | ||
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unknown.sam
Philippines2701 Posts
 and i used the neutral grip too, it's supposed to be easier is it not?. but then again the weight i failed at today would be 94% of the weight i used to do so maybe it's not so bad. but i really didn't expect to fail at that weight. gonna add some pendlay rows to get my pull ups back up to speed...hopefully.did the press for the first time using a barbell. i'll need a lot more practice doing those. had a ton of trouble putting myself in the correct pressing position, and one side always seemed longer than the other lol. didn't expect it to be so technical. DOMS here i come! | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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unknown.sam
Philippines2701 Posts
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decafchicken
United States20168 Posts
Also been doing these chart workouts posted around my HS weight room that have more volume than i usually do based off your current 1RM. starting off at like 5x10 then 6x8 then 6x6 etc working down to 1-3 rep maxes at 15-20 pounds heavier than your original max. I've done 2 out of 7 so hopefully in ~2-3 weeks i'll be squatting ~425 and deadlifting ~450. 8 reps at 335 for deadlift was hard but it felt really good. Shins are still murdering me so i'm going to stay off them for a couple weeks except for rugby. Will be going down to ohio this weekend for a huge collegiate rugby 7's tournament that will be aired on NBC. MSU was supposed to get invited until they found out we were a d2 team for rugby But i will be playing in an amateur tournament down there and watching some games, you guys should check it out!http://www.usasevenscci.com/ /end random thoughts also, glutamine is awesome! I've been drinking a cup of coffee and a protein shake with ~5g glutamine and have been able to go for ~90 minutes really strong. | ||
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AoN.DimSum
United States2983 Posts
On June 03 2010 08:04 decafchicken wrote: Finally did 5x5 @ 225 for bench for the first time since i sprained my AC joint. only felt pain in the first set. Also been doing these chart workouts posted around my HS weight room that have more volume than i usually do based off your current 1RM. starting off at like 5x10 then 6x8 then 6x6 etc working down to 1-3 rep maxes at 15-20 pounds heavier than your original max. I've done 2 out of 7 so hopefully in ~2-3 weeks i'll be squatting ~425 and deadlifting ~450. 8 reps at 335 for deadlift was hard but it felt really good. Shins are still murdering me so i'm going to stay off them for a couple weeks except for rugby. Will be going down to ohio this weekend for a huge collegiate rugby 7's tournament that will be aired on NBC. MSU was supposed to get invited until they found out we were a d2 team for rugby But i will be playing in an amateur tournament down there and watching some games, you guys should check it out!http://www.usasevenscci.com/ /end random thoughts wow nice, whats the best rated team? | ||
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decafchicken
United States20168 Posts
Cal and BYU are perennial powerhouses that rape shit every year, moreso cal. Cal's 2nd string can beat almost every team in the country. And since BYU isn't going i'd expect Cal to win, but it is 7's which is an entirely different game so anything can happen. I've played with a lot of the guys from top 10 teams like BGSU and ND at the midwest all-stars so i look forward to seeing how they do. (midwest represent! we kind of get shat on by the rest of the country just like the big 10 does in football ) | ||
thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
Completely fucked for squats??? >< | ||
Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4523 Posts
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decafchicken
United States20168 Posts
On June 03 2010 18:55 thedeadhaji wrote: FML, moved apartments and new gym only has a retarded smyth machine for barbell work. Completely fucked for squats??? >< Yeah either switch gyms or check around on craigs list and see if you can get a squat rack. a buddy of mine found one for 30$ | ||
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unknown.sam
Philippines2701 Posts
on another note, it's absolutely amazing how everyone in the gym i go to uses machines. not one person touches the barbells or does any compounds (except for the odd bench press). it's just bicep curls and/or machines while they look at themselves in the mirror. amazing. | ||
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decafchicken
United States20168 Posts
On June 04 2010 01:23 unknown.sam wrote: had another shitty workout today. lowered the weights in half for pull ups and i still couldn't do them without failing on the last rep. like c'mon man, i used to be able to do those pretty easily before. does approx. 2 months off really affect one's gains that much?? i guess i'll just have to start from scratch... on another note, it's absolutely amazing how everyone in the gym i go to uses machines. not one person touches the barbells or does any compounds (except for the odd bench press). it's just bicep curls and/or machines while they look at themselves in the mirror. amazing. yeah my bench dropped a good 50 pounds when i took 2 months off. It really does hurt. always try to get in at least once a week even if your super busy to stave off atrophy. And yes, 90% of people in gyms are ignorant vain twats T_T It really bugs me when i see 9 people come in to do bicep curls then leave but now i just go to my high school gym that is 90% free weights and empty most of the time. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On June 04 2010 01:23 unknown.sam wrote: had another shitty workout today. lowered the weights in half for pull ups and i still couldn't do them without failing on the last rep. like c'mon man, i used to be able to do those pretty easily before. does approx. 2 months off really affect one's gains that much?? i guess i'll just have to start from scratch... on another note, it's absolutely amazing how everyone in the gym i go to uses machines. not one person touches the barbells or does any compounds (except for the odd bench press). it's just bicep curls and/or machines while they look at themselves in the mirror. amazing. It's not even really vanity... People are lazy. If getting strong or a good body was easy everyone would have one. But it takes damn hard work to do that -- you gotta lift heavy and work hard in the gym.... God forbid anyone actually do that... in a gym..... Why don't people eat healthy? Because it's easier/more convenient to buy garbage food. Hell, if you make a list of the 7 deadly sins.... wrath, greed, sloth, pride, lust, envy, and gluttony... I'd say the biggest ones that the industrial world struggles with are all of them honestly but regarding healthy nutrition it's sloth/gluttony. edit: oh yeah, if you take that much time off you're gonna have to work back into it slowly... -_- | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On June 04 2010 06:18 travis wrote: it's generally easier to gain strength you once had than to gain new strength right? Yup. The great part is that it usually comes back approximately 3-5x as fast | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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