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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
June 04 2010 10:06 GMT
#1001
On June 04 2010 01:07 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2010 18:55 thedeadhaji wrote:
FML, moved apartments and new gym only has a retarded smyth machine for barbell work.

Completely fucked for squats??? ><

Yeah either switch gyms or check around on craigs list and see if you can get a squat rack. a buddy of mine found one for 30$


unfortunately neither is an option

thanks for the input though TTT
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
June 04 2010 12:15 GMT
#1002
On June 04 2010 13:28 Froadac wrote:
I've been doing some of those strength activities you suggested. Unfortunately the rods in my back have really limited my range of motion, and gains are painfully slow, considering I can barely do any reps. Are there any other basic exercises that would be of benefit that I should do?


Do you have access to DBs?

It may be beneficial to try a bunch of unilateral exercises if you're having trouble with a lot of bodyweight or barbell work.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20022 Posts
June 04 2010 16:08 GMT
#1003
On June 04 2010 19:06 thedeadhaji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2010 01:07 decafchicken wrote:
On June 03 2010 18:55 thedeadhaji wrote:
FML, moved apartments and new gym only has a retarded smyth machine for barbell work.

Completely fucked for squats??? ><

Yeah either switch gyms or check around on craigs list and see if you can get a squat rack. a buddy of mine found one for 30$


unfortunately neither is an option

thanks for the input though TTT


Just keeping doing them on the smith machine until you find somewhere to do them with free weights, probably even add some weight since it should be easier.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
hejakev
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden518 Posts
June 04 2010 17:14 GMT
#1004
Anyone have some ab building suggestions? I'm pretty fit and healthy, my only problem is I don't know how to build ab strength very well.

I eat great, I run often, I have very low body fat. Now I just need to build the muscle
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-04 17:41:24
June 04 2010 17:37 GMT
#1005
On June 05 2010 02:14 hejakev wrote:
Anyone have some ab building suggestions? I'm pretty fit and healthy, my only problem is I don't know how to build ab strength very well.

I eat great, I run often, I have very low body fat. Now I just need to build the muscle


working L-sit would be a good starting point imo

http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&q=L-sit&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi

if you can't hold it at all I would recommend lying leg raises



and crunches on the side of that wouldn't hurt


and froadac:

i doubt anyone can really give u good advice without quite knowing the condition you are in right now. what is the extent of your injuries? what kind of motions can you do and what can't you do?
hejakev
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden518 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-04 17:56:59
June 04 2010 17:54 GMT
#1006
On June 05 2010 02:37 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2010 02:14 hejakev wrote:
Anyone have some ab building suggestions? I'm pretty fit and healthy, my only problem is I don't know how to build ab strength very well.

I eat great, I run often, I have very low body fat. Now I just need to build the muscle


working L-sit would be a good starting point imo

http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&q=L-sit&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi

if you can't hold it at all I would recommend lying leg raises

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PM4zKaD968&feature=related


and crunches on the side of that wouldn't hurt


and froadac:

i doubt anyone can really give u good advice without quite knowing the condition you are in right now. what is the extent of your injuries? what kind of motions can you do and what can't you do?


Oooo I could do that! I have the Gold's Gym pull-up bar that would be great for the L-sit. It's so versatile!

And does the L-sit work obliques?

edit: What do you think of bicycle crunches? Sitting at the edge of the bench and crunching your right elbow to left knee, then left elbow to right knee, etc.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-04 18:02:21
June 04 2010 18:00 GMT
#1007
L-sit works it all

From the pullup bar it's L-hang not L-sit, L-sit is pushing which will work ur triceps. L-hang is pulling(well, hanging you aren't supposed to actually use your shoulders). Unless this contraption you're talking about is more versatile than I realize.

If you really wanted to get nasty you could do L-hang instead of L-sit and then twist to right, then to left, back to right, back to left - while u are doing the hang.

And if you're strong enough you could do hanging leg raises.





I used to do bicycle crunches a lot. They are good. But still not as good for building core strength as gymnastic moves like L-sit.
hejakev
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden518 Posts
June 04 2010 18:08 GMT
#1008
On June 05 2010 03:00 travis wrote:
L-sit works it all

From the pullup bar it's L-hang not L-sit, L-sit is pushing which will work ur triceps. L-hang is pulling(well, hanging you aren't supposed to actually use your shoulders). Unless this contraption you're talking about is more versatile than I realize.

If you really wanted to get nasty you could do L-hang instead of L-sit and then twist to right, then to left, back to right, back to left - while u are doing the hang.

And if you're strong enough you could do hanging leg raises.





I used to do bicycle crunches a lot. They are good. But still not as good for building core strength as gymnastic moves like L-sit.


[image loading]

This is what I mean, sorry. It's a pull-up bar that detaches and works great for dips, I'm going to try it for L-sits tonight. Otherwise, do you just do them on your hands?

I can probably do hanging leg raises, too. Perhaps that's the answer.

Last question: For L-sits, leg lifts and bicycle crunches, how do you do sets? Time, quantity, number of sets, etc
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
June 04 2010 18:18 GMT
#1009
ok I thought you might be talking about something like that.

Yeah, I do my L-sits off the floor generally, but it is harder that way, and it is probably better to start off of something that lifts you off the ground. That way if your legs lower some the L-sit isnt immediately over.

Hanging leg raises are actually surprisingly tough to do with good form.

for L-sits I would work for time, go to near failure, and I'd probably do 3 sets with a couple minutes rest inbetween each set. (1 set being 1 hold)

for other excersizes I would probably do 2 or 3 sets, focus on form, and quantity would be whatever takes me near failure in a given set. couple minutes rest inbetween
hejakev
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden518 Posts
June 04 2010 18:38 GMT
#1010
On June 05 2010 03:18 travis wrote:
ok I thought you might be talking about something like that.

Yeah, I do my L-sits off the floor generally, but it is harder that way, and it is probably better to start off of something that lifts you off the ground. That way if your legs lower some the L-sit isnt immediately over.

Hanging leg raises are actually surprisingly tough to do with good form.

for L-sits I would work for time, go to near failure, and I'd probably do 3 sets with a couple minutes rest inbetween each set. (1 set being 1 hold)

for other excersizes I would probably do 2 or 3 sets, focus on form, and quantity would be whatever takes me near failure in a given set. couple minutes rest inbetween


Awesome! Well thanks for all your help, I'll put it all to the test after work today
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20022 Posts
June 04 2010 18:50 GMT
#1011
Weighted sit ups usually do the trick for me...hold a 10-20 pound dumbell on the back of your neck and do sit ups on a a sit up bench thing you can put your legs in or on a medicine ball. Then i'll do some sort of leg lift to hit my lower abs and then some russian twists or hold a dumbell in my hand and bend to the left/right and back up to hit my obliques.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
gzealot
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Singapore238 Posts
June 04 2010 19:12 GMT
#1012
gzealot
Age: 22 || Height: 6'1" or 185cm || Weight: 160lbs/74kg
Starting Date: 06/04/2010 || Goal Date: 08/23/2010
Weight goals -- Hm.. Increase weights for bench and shoulder presses, and deadlifts. If i can lift 2x50lb dumbbells would be great. Deadlifts goal: 150lb, right now at 90lb
Training goals -- Simply getting more jacked, and able to run 10km comfortably, since I was sitting mostly on my ass and drinking mountain dew this semester. Screw uni lol.
Nutrition goals -- Losing my belly fat. I used to have more discernible abs, but now i have lost some of it.
Misc goals -- Bring myself up to mark on Computer Systems, C and Assembly. Algorithms too.

Me before last semester:
[image loading]


Some questions:
if u want to use dips to train your chest, do you look forward such that your chest is perpendicular to the ground, or you lean forward such that your chest is parallel with the ground?

My current regime:
4x8 Dumbbell bench press (35 lb on each)
4x8 Dumbbell military press (35lb on each)
3x12 chinups
3x20 crunches with 20lb weight
4x8 Dumbbell bicep curl (35lb)
4x8 Tricep cable pulldown (100lb)

On alternate days i deadlift.
Comments?
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
June 04 2010 19:17 GMT
#1013
On June 05 2010 04:12 gzealot wrote:
Some questions:
if u want to use dips to train your chest, do you look forward such that your chest is perpendicular to the ground, or you lean forward such that your chest is parallel with the ground?



leaning in targets chest more

doing both is good
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
June 04 2010 19:32 GMT
#1014
Exercise has been going great, running like 2-3 miles a day with good eating habits overall. Seeing some results =)
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20022 Posts
June 04 2010 19:48 GMT
#1015
On June 05 2010 04:12 gzealot wrote:


My current regime:
4x8 Dumbbell bench press (35 lb on each)
4x8 Dumbbell military press (35lb on each)
3x12 chinups
3x20 crunches with 20lb weight
4x8 Dumbbell bicep curl (35lb)
4x8 Tricep cable pulldown (100lb)

On alternate days i deadlift.
Comments?


At your height and weight you should be able to pack on a lot of muscle and strength pretty quickly.

Your bench should be higher than your military press and certainly be much higher than your bicep curl. Do you have access to barbells and such?
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
gzealot
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Singapore238 Posts
June 04 2010 20:05 GMT
#1016
Well yea my college gym is still open. I think of changing up my regime, but i'm not sure what is the most effective way. I have been lifting for quite a few years now, so I'm open to suggestions.

Does being an asian male affect my muscle gain and strength? keke.
gzealot
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Singapore238 Posts
June 04 2010 20:06 GMT
#1017
and yea I'have been trying to eat more, but theres so little food around campus that is good quality food. I dont wanna be eating more crap, if I can help it. I would like some nutrition tips too, if possible
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20022 Posts
June 04 2010 20:16 GMT
#1018
No being asian doesnt affect it :-p
[image loading]

Basically, read the first page! I'll footnote it for you though:
do a program like starting strength or 5x5 that focus on a few compound lifts. Your strength will go up incredibily fast.

Nutrition footnotes: Eat natural food. If its processed it's probably not good for you. Try for 1-1.5g protein per pound of body weight, and roughly 20 calories * your bodyweight in pounds. Eggs, chicken, beef, veggies, fruits are all awesome. Protein directly after you workout. Drink lots of water.

I think thats all the major points.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
June 04 2010 20:47 GMT
#1019
On June 05 2010 05:06 gzealot wrote:
and yea I'have been trying to eat more, but theres so little food around campus that is good quality food. I dont wanna be eating more crap, if I can help it. I would like some nutrition tips too, if possible



http://weightliftingsingapore.wordpress.com/
http://www.youtube.com/user/SGWeightlifting

I don't know where this gym is in sg, but there's some extremely strong and knowledgeable people who train there. If you could get in contact with them you'd gain a lot of strength and learn a lot very quickly. It would be helpful even if you don't care about olympic weightlifting just to learn basic barbell exercises and have a great place to train.
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gzealot
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Singapore238 Posts
June 04 2010 22:47 GMT
#1020
ah, you are mistaken. Right now I am in the States, summer ftw. I am using the gym in university right now.
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