EPTTL Health and Fitness Initiative 2010 - Page 18
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unknown.sam
Philippines2701 Posts
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On February 12 2010 15:59 decafchicken wrote: fucking wrecked my shoulder in rugby today running full speed into someone, bruised my trap pretty bad or something, busted blood vessels all over my shoulder. takin a couple days off. gonna go get hammered and play a rugby tournament in half a foot of snow this weekend, whee  edit: think i'm gonna get me a big ol costco bottle of fishoil edit2: to above poster, correct me if i'm wrong but fat doesnt "turn into muscle" right? protein builds muscle and the more muscle you build the lower % of your body fat is ttherefore it might have that appearance? Wait what? Fat doesn't turn into muscle, while muscle doesn't turn into fat. You need energy source (fat, protein, carbs) + protein to build muscle. If you have too low protein content and hypocaloric diet you can lose muscle pretty easily though... On February 12 2010 22:34 unknown.sam wrote: eshlow, your thoughts on chondromalacia?? Chondromalacia of what? Usually it's patellae... which is usually accompanied by patellofemoral syndrome. My thoughts on patellofemoral and similar dysfunctions are here: http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/11/shoes-sitting-and-lower-body-dysfunctions/ Chondromalacia, in general, is wearing down of the cartilage usually due to excessive overuse + chronic inflammation. Most people report feeling zillions of times better with fish oil (which helps eliminate chronic inflammation as you saw on the previous page) in addition to cartilage supplements like glucosamine, chondroitin sulfate, MSM, cissus, etc. This is because adding more building blocks and limit inflammation let the correct healing processes occur within the articular cartilage. | ||
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seppolevne
Canada1681 Posts
On February 12 2010 15:59 decafchicken wrote: fucking wrecked my shoulder in rugby today running full speed into someone, bruised my trap pretty bad or something, busted blood vessels all over my shoulder. takin a couple days off. gonna go get hammered and play a rugby tournament in half a foot of snow this weekend, whee edit: think i'm gonna get me a big ol costco bottle of fishoil edit2: to above poster, correct me if i'm wrong but fat doesnt "turn into muscle" right? protein builds muscle and the more muscle you build the lower % of your body fat is ttherefore it might have that appearance? Yes, fat doesn't "turn into muscle" per se, but the workout combination of burning (losing) fat while gaining muscle, sometimes staying at the same weight while vastly changing body fat%, it could be said to be figuratively "changing" from fat into muscle. | ||
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bdams19
United States1316 Posts
On February 02 2010 12:29 eshlow wrote: What injuries do you have? I have a fairly extensive knowledge of a lot of orthopedic issues (going to PT school this summer + working in clinic atm) so maybe we can get those out of the way so you can do SS again. I have a few injuries that are reoccurring. First, I tore my meniscus on the inside of my left knee over the summer playing basketball. It was a non contact injury where I was just cutting, so luckily it wasn't my acl/mcl. I am pretty much fully recovered from this for sports as I play basketball, run, and swim fairly often. I was told to stay away from squats, however. Next, I have dislocated my shoulder multiple times. This is a serious problem with my lifting regimen as I cannot lift anything overhead. I tried to do pull ups and it hurt too much, same with benching. My doctor diagnosed me as having "loose ligaments," not only in my shoulders but all over. My shoulder can pretty much dislocate on command (though I obviously don't do it on purpose), and the same with my wrists. I was given a stretch band and told to do physical therapy focusing on my shoulder with a few exercises (attach it to a doorknob or something, do flexion/extension and put it under my foot and raise straight in front of me). I have done these on and off but not nearly enough to see any results. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On February 13 2010 00:54 bdams19 wrote: I have a few injuries that are reoccurring. First, I tore my meniscus on the inside of my left knee over the summer playing basketball. It was a non contact injury where I was just cutting, so luckily it wasn't my acl/mcl. I am pretty much fully recovered from this for sports as I play basketball, run, and swim fairly often. I was told to stay away from squats, however. Next, I have dislocated my shoulder multiple times. This is a serious problem with my lifting regimen as I cannot lift anything overhead. I tried to do pull ups and it hurt too much, same with benching. My doctor diagnosed me as having "loose ligaments," not only in my shoulders but all over. My shoulder can pretty much dislocate on command (though I obviously don't do it on purpose), and the same with my wrists. I was given a stretch band and told to do physical therapy focusing on my shoulder with a few exercises (attach it to a doorknob or something, do flexion/extension and put it under my foot and raise straight in front of me). I have done these on and off but not nearly enough to see any results. 1. Meniscus depends.. did they remove the torn up parts or did they sew them together to heal? It depends on what they did. Regardless, I know several people who are back squatting and deadlifting upwards of 400-500 lbs after torn mensici. You need to be perfect in your form and technique though. 2. Yep, you need to strengthen your shoulders at least 4-5x a week with rotator cuff work. Add back in compounds slowly. Did your doc check for bankart lesion? Just loose ligaments, eh? | ||
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bdams19
United States1316 Posts
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crabapple
United States397 Posts
these ingredients are bad for you MSG (goes by thousand other names including sodium caseinate, natural flavors, flavorings) a big list of names http://www.truthinlabeling.org/hiddensources.html what glutamate does to you http://www.eurosiva.org/Archive/Vienna/abstracts/Speakers/SUREDA.htm basically, glutamic acid is a protein, but it also acts as a neurotransmitter. the body regulates optimal levels of virtually everything. and many things the normal levels are very small concentrations. but when it is added to food, it's way beyond the safe amount, even if it may be .5 grams (b/c the normal level may be much lower concentrations). glutamte influx -> opens calcium channels so much so to the point that cells die. glutamate receptors are in every organ of hte body, including the eyes. but it makes food taste good so industries love to use it. glutamate acting on the pancreas stimulates 3 times the normal insulin levels in a typical meal. and u should know insulin is what takes blood sugar and turns it into glygogen. so in the long run, not only will it burn out your sugar regulating organ, but make you fat. all this while tons of cells of organs die. ^ instead of msg, to make food taste good, try exercising. hunger really is the best spice, but also, your body circulates things and demands nutrients, which converts to food tasting better. also if u get your tongue off of salt rich foods u are able to taste the subtle tastes of fruits and vegetables much better. and from personal experience, it really is satisfying and if it was easier to obtain and eat like that, then i would totally give up the junk food. aspartame (the zero calorie sugar that actually breaks down into methanol and glutamate) ^ instead of zero calorie sugars, which actually end up making you fatter and unhealthier, use regular sugar (not saccharin), find healthier sugars like honey (honey really is awesome), and lots of other sugar substitutes. for me personally, i actually dont like sweet stuff. u can tone down your crave for sugar as well. getting off of MSG that lowers your blood sugar levels drastically will help stop your sugar cravings (which is the result of demanding a short terms blood sugar increase) common store-bought milk soy - controvorisal one. but the actual information that doesn't come from the soy industry says otherwise. - virutally all of it is genetically modified, thanks to Monsanto corp. genetic modification in a nutshell, the gene insertion process inserts at random locations, and cause lots of mutations nad regulon errors and new protein synthesis that are bad for you. - loaded with goitrogen - loaded with tripsin inhibitors - prevents you from digesting protein - loaded with phytoestrogen. infants fed soy infant formula end up having 20,000 times normal estrogen levels. there are good soy which is non GMO and fermented. tofu is not one of these. i dont need soy, there are plenty of substitutes, and soy is actually very dangerous and counterproductive to health in general and "getting buff" ^instead of soy, protein bars, or powerbars, have regular good old meat. meat and/or beans instead of powerbars and protein powders (has problems too, but the closer to nature the better. if u can get organic then better. yes even organic standards are being under attack but u get the idea). so if ur power bar has any of these, u dont want them. but they have a ton of other good stuff? if u mix a bad thing and a good thing is it good or bad? put some gasoline in your vitamin drink and will u drink it? power bars, gatorade/vitamin water, protein powders all of them have better substitutes. all of nutrition can be fully gained from nature. we don't have power bar trees or creatine brushes. nature provides things in the best ratios too, which is a critical factor. "the dose makes the poison" http://heartsafetytips.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-amazing-benefits-of-eating-fruits.html ^instead of sports drinks that are loaded with sugar, calories, as well as bromine (used in coloring to make it look one color instead of separating), have good reverse osmosis filtered water (that takes our fluoride and arsenic among others) and have fruit. eat fruit on an empty stomach. there is much to be gained from doing this. http://heartsafetytips.blogspot.com/2009/08/most-amazing-benefits-of-eating-fruits.html hopefully i have provided some info that is not widely known or advocated by "health specialists" that you can all benefit from. and most importantly that ppl realize things they thought were good for ou are actually quite the opposite. | ||
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pyrogenetix
China5098 Posts
FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU and I was feeling pretty good about my 125kg 3x5 squats =( | ||
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crabapple
United States397 Posts
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ShadowDrgn
United States2497 Posts
On February 13 2010 07:40 crabapple wrote: common store-bought milk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHcyAH0rOPE Wow, this could explain why I've been itching a lot lately. I went from drinking almost no milk to drinking it by the gallon. I'm going to have to try raw milk and see if the itching goes away. Unfortunately I just got back from the grocery store with 3 gallons of milk.  | ||
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crabapple
United States397 Posts
On February 13 2010 08:42 ShadowDrgn wrote: Wow, this could explain why I've been itching a lot lately. I went from drinking almost no milk to drinking it by the gallon. I'm going to have to try raw milk and see if the itching goes away. Unfortunately I just got back from the grocery store with 3 gallons of milk. where do u get your "raw milk"? im urban so there aren't many cows lying around. and even in areas with cows, they're all vaccinated and most likely rbst treated and etc | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On February 13 2010 08:42 ShadowDrgn wrote: Wow, this could explain why I've been itching a lot lately. I went from drinking almost no milk to drinking it by the gallon. I'm going to have to try raw milk and see if the itching goes away. Unfortunately I just got back from the grocery store with 3 gallons of milk. If you're trying to mass gain then some things are unavoidable (unless you can get raw milk from a co-op or something). Unless you want to be eating 2+ lbs of meat a day... On February 13 2010 08:04 pyrogenetix wrote: fuck i just found out squatting with smith machine is gay FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU and I was feeling pretty good about my 125kg 3x5 squats =( I thought we told people to avoid machines in this thread? Yes, Smith machine is not good. Use barbells. | ||
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ShadowDrgn
United States2497 Posts
On February 13 2010 08:59 crabapple wrote: where do u get your "raw milk"? im urban so there aren't many cows lying around. and even in areas with cows, they're all vaccinated and most likely rbst treated and etc Apparently http://www.organicpastures.com/ sells to Whole Foods, and those are everywhere. Organic Pastures charges $10/gallon from their site so who knows how much the stuff is at Whole Foods. Certainly a lot more than $2.50/gallon bargain milk. There do appear to be some raw milk co-ops in my area (San Jose), but they just list a generic phone number, 1-877-RAW-MILK. | ||
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crabapple
United States397 Posts
On February 13 2010 09:15 ShadowDrgn wrote: Apparently http://www.organicpastures.com/ sells to Whole Foods, and those are everywhere. Organic Pastures charges $10/gallon from their site so who knows how much the stuff is at Whole Foods. Certainly a lot more than $2.50/gallon bargain milk. There do appear to be some raw milk co-ops in my area (San Jose), but they just list a generic phone number, 1-877-RAW-MILK. wow, thanks for the site. i am pretyt aware of the info, but sort of out of the loop when it comes to actually obtaining a lot of products. i just used the website's store locator, called a retail store near me, and idt is 6.70 per gallon. =] | ||
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unknown.sam
Philippines2701 Posts
On February 12 2010 23:53 eshlow wrote: Chondromalacia of what? Usually it's patellae... which is usually accompanied by patellofemoral syndrome. My thoughts on patellofemoral and similar dysfunctions are here: http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/11/shoes-sitting-and-lower-body-dysfunctions/ Chondromalacia, in general, is wearing down of the cartilage usually due to excessive overuse + chronic inflammation. Most people report feeling zillions of times better with fish oil (which helps eliminate chronic inflammation as you saw on the previous page) in addition to cartilage supplements like glucosamine, chondroitin sulfate, MSM, cissus, etc. This is because adding more building blocks and limit inflammation let the correct healing processes occur within the articular cartilage. thanks for the link that was a very good read. man i had no idea i had really tight hammies, particularly my right. at least my glutes and quads aren't tight. but staying on topic with the chondromalacia, can't say for sure i have it (gonna visit the doc next week) but it seems like the most likely culprit since i'm experiencing kneecap pain. and the pain is more noticeable when bending my knee. i still have the proper active rom but i can't pull my heel against my butt because that's when the pain is a little past tolerable. anyway looks like i'll have to get me some fish oil | ||
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crabapple
United States397 Posts
there is strong inflammation which results in "crosshatch" scar tissue and then theres the weaker one that builds it up more parallel. over time and with motion, and vitamin c, the crosshatch fibers (type 3 collagen) turn into parallel fibers (type 1 collagen). it's importnat not to overuse to the point of triggering strong inflammation, but motion is what gets it better. motion is what nourishes joints, tendons, ligaments cartilage and collagen that normally dont get as much blood supply as muscle tissues do. a good orthopedic chiropractor is worth his weight in gold. there is 99% of the time no need for surgery, NSAIDS, SAIDS. i seriously saw like 5 differetn chiropractors and they were all shit (but regular mainstream doctors were even more shit and more expensive). but this one chiropractor seemingly does the same thing as the other chiropractors, but it's just totally differnet. i had 90% pain relief in the first visit (which doesnt happen all the time), and after that i've been getting better and better when i couldn't walk before and was in constant pain for over a year straight. knees, are no prob for a good orthpedist. u dont want steroid injections that are suppoesd to put the pain down, but actually destroy cartilege (corizone). u dont want to see mainstream doctors that don't have a naturalistic/holistic view and only look at FDA approved mainstream journals and ideas. | ||
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Energies
Australia3225 Posts
I've seen the "300" workout which is 25 Pullups 50 Box Jumps 50 Deadlifts (60kg) 50 pushups 50 Floor Sweepers (with 60kg weight) 50 Clean and Press 25 Pullups And that should take roughly 30 minutes. Does anyone know of anything similar? I would like to try a non-stop circuit tomorrow, my psyche is a bit out of exercise at the moment, I want to shock it back. | ||
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ShadowDrgn
United States2497 Posts
On February 13 2010 17:24 Energies wrote: Does anyone have any good circuit routines with weight training? www.crossfit.com is full of them, that's pretty much all crossfit is. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On February 13 2010 10:24 unknown.sam wrote: thanks for the link that was a very good read. man i had no idea i had really tight hammies, particularly my right. at least my glutes and quads aren't tight. but staying on topic with the chondromalacia, can't say for sure i have it (gonna visit the doc next week) but it seems like the most likely culprit since i'm experiencing kneecap pain. and the pain is more noticeable when bending my knee. i still have the proper active rom but i can't pull my heel against my butt because that's when the pain is a little past tolerable. anyway looks like i'll have to get me some fish oil It's likely patellofemoral if the pain is more lateral. It's pretty common as evidenced in the above link. Solution is basically getting the pain/inflammation down... Then stretching/loosening: hip flexors, adductors, rectus femoris/vastus lateralist, TFL/IT band, deep gluteal muscles, hamstrings, calves, plantar fascia Strengthening hamstrings, glutes maximus/medius, and vastus medialis + VM obliquus. On February 13 2010 10:52 crabapple wrote: ^ in reply to above, inflammation is what builds up collagen. there is strong inflammation which results in "crosshatch" scar tissue and then theres the weaker one that builds it up more parallel. over time and with motion, and vitamin c, the crosshatch fibers (type 3 collagen) turn into parallel fibers (type 1 collagen). it's importnat not to overuse to the point of triggering strong inflammation, but motion is what gets it better. motion is what nourishes joints, tendons, ligaments cartilage and collagen that normally dont get as much blood supply as muscle tissues do. a good orthopedic chiropractor is worth his weight in gold. there is 99% of the time no need for surgery, NSAIDS, SAIDS. i seriously saw like 5 differetn chiropractors and they were all shit (but regular mainstream doctors were even more shit and more expensive). but this one chiropractor seemingly does the same thing as the other chiropractors, but it's just totally differnet. i had 90% pain relief in the first visit (which doesnt happen all the time), and after that i've been getting better and better when i couldn't walk before and was in constant pain for over a year straight. knees, are no prob for a good orthpedist. u dont want steroid injections that are suppoesd to put the pain down, but actually destroy cartilege (corizone). u dont want to see mainstream doctors that don't have a naturalistic/holistic view and only look at FDA approved mainstream journals and ideas. Pain, in general, means there excessive inflammation in most cases. So he already has excessive inflammation and rehabilitation needs to focus on eliminating ALL of the pain and MOST of inflammation first so the tissues can start to heal. Chiros are more hit and miss than physical therapists unfortunately. Ortho docs are good for diagnosing stuff but they generally don't know too much about rehab unfortunately. | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
I'm thinking about incorporating some kinda shake into my routine but not sure what to use... I know I want to use blueberries/raspberries but no idea what liquid to use [ aka what would taste good ]. I was thinking half and half or coconut cream/milk but I have to admit I haven't had any coconut liquid products in forever so I have no idea how they would taste. Half and half is kinda expensive and after watching that milk video I'm kinda wary of whole milk [ which for some reason is not found at my grocery ] and of half and half. Ideas? Thank you! | ||
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