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Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
September 23 2010 23:00 GMT
#2701
God what a monstrous clean, she doesn't even accelerate the bar that quickly in the first pull, but the second pull and drop under the bar are so fast it doesn't matter.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
September 24 2010 02:22 GMT
#2702
On September 24 2010 03:14 eshlow wrote:
All I can tell is if you strained your groin doing SS then your mechanics are probably off... do you have any vids of you squatting that we can take a look at?




CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
September 24 2010 02:30 GMT
#2703
Get that pad off your back!!!!
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-24 02:36:48
September 24 2010 02:36 GMT
#2704
well, to be honest. It was there when I wanted to use the bar, and since the guy in the back was using it, I didn't wanted to bother that much.

It's a bitch to take off and put on that thing.

edit: DimSum, how's my form? bad? do I need to work on something? halp halp halp!
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
September 24 2010 03:39 GMT
#2705
Hmm only things I see is that your back is rounding at the bottom. Try to keep your core tight at the bottom and work on your ankle flexibility. Also look straight when squating. your motion looks fine to me.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
September 24 2010 03:56 GMT
#2706
On September 24 2010 12:39 AoN.DimSum wrote:
Hmm only things I see is that your back is rounding at the bottom. Try to keep your core tight at the bottom and work on your ankle flexibility. Also look straight when squating. your motion looks fine to me.


This plus....

1. sit back more it looked like you were shifting your weight forward onto your toes more especially near the bottom (can tell by shin angle and looking at your shoes)

2. Can't tell if your knees were tracking in but it seemed like they were moving slightly medially/inside near teh bottom fo the lift. Make sure you are keep them in line with the toes at all times.

3. initiate the movement by pushing your hips back. Its a minor thing but it should help especially in conjunction with #1

Otherwise, looks fine besides teh back round/butt wink at the bottom.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
September 24 2010 04:06 GMT
#2707
so, could this have caused my injury?
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
September 24 2010 04:09 GMT
#2708
On September 24 2010 13:06 funkie wrote:
so, could this have caused my injury?


Unlikely... as you said it was probalbly that taebox or whatever
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
September 24 2010 04:19 GMT
#2709
Thanks, you cleared up my doubts there a bit!.

I guess I wasn't that off technique .

Huge thanks. I've been massaging where it hurts, and it's almost gone, but I'm worried it will come back tomorrow when I use weights .
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
September 24 2010 11:23 GMT
#2710
Also. Add another 100kg to that bar!
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-24 13:23:47
September 24 2010 13:21 GMT
#2711
On September 24 2010 20:23 Energies wrote:
Also. Add another 100kg to that bar!


Oh I wasn't doing weights, that was just the weight the guy doing biceps curls was using, I usually do like 35kg on each side :D

But, I'm afraid It might hurt .
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
September 24 2010 14:12 GMT
#2712
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That's all I could find. You can do it funkie!!
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
September 24 2010 14:18 GMT
#2713
holy shit that is so cool.

haha Awesome! Thanks! :D You can do it too man!, stop being lazy and get your shit on! :D
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
September 24 2010 18:59 GMT
#2714
german hangs, chinups, straddle front levers

my armmmmmmms feel like they are gonna explooooooode

but i got more to do. tuck planches, pike compressions, middle split holds here i coooome
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
September 25 2010 00:02 GMT
#2715
so eshlow, my posterior deltoids (especially in my right arm) have been sore... a lot... way more than they normally get.

sometimes it feels slightly painful to move my arm a certain direction

im wondering what caused this... it definitely started since i started doing arms to the side planche / hands back manna / really upping my german hang sessions

also wondering if there is anything i can do to help it
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
September 25 2010 02:03 GMT
#2716
I have a nutrition-based question.

I've read from multiple sources that you should eat a meal within an hour of getting out of bed. I was wondering if, say, I were to sleep through breakfast (that I normally at at around 0730), wake up at about 1130, and have lunch for the first meal of the day...would that be less than nutritionally ideal? Assuming I eat the same amount of meals in the day I would have had I woken up for breakfast, will my body just treat lunch as breakfast and not be affected?
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unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
September 25 2010 02:30 GMT
#2717
eshlow, i have an anti-inflamms question.

my knee (the joint specifically) becomes really sore the very next day so i feel like i have to indulge in ibuprofen. is it bad that i take anti-inflamms after every training session?
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
September 25 2010 05:24 GMT
#2718
On September 23 2010 11:09 earti wrote:
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On September 23 2010 07:07 Catch wrote:
Problems: Right now when I do cardio, and then go to legs, my legs are STILL sore from the last workout. It used to be I would run twice a week (Mon&Wed), and then do legs on Thursday. I've cut back to cardio once a week (As simply cutting the distance I ran on Wednesday didn't help), but they still seem kind of sore when I go to work out my legs are Thursday again. Although I also do a five minute warm up on the stationary bikes and stretch before EACH work out as well..

Do y'all think with doing it this way will work once I take in additional nutrients? (I'm going to eat more and drink a protein shake after each work out [not abs+cardio]) , and/or should I cut the warm up before the workout and just stretch or... What?

Just a quick question about carbs too. I read on exrx.net that a good thing is to eat carbs asap after a workout. I thought beforehand was good, then waiting an hour before lifting to use primarily carbs as your energy source? I guess I need to really read up on these nutrients :\


If you're doing your running on a street pavement it will definitely make your legs sore (legs landing on concrete ain't fun), Running on an actual track pavement will help reduce that impact, or, finding low-impact options for your cardio days. Some suggestions are wind sprints (intervals of sprints), or walking on an inclined treadmill (just a few suggestions).

I wouldn't skip warmups and stretches... it prevents injury!. It's also good to stretch after the workout to restore some range in motion (unless you are stretching after your workouts as you cool down). I'm thinking it's more of a matter of more rest than it is nutrition, as you have to eat anyways to keep your workouts going. I know for sure at least you're getting enough food in since you're able to do your workouts with great intensity (hence, the soreness). It wouldn't hurt if you eased off the legs to allow it to recover fully. Heavy weight can be handled easier with fresh legs.

I'm not much of a fan of a decicated day of abs. I usually do abs in conjuction with another resistance exercise done after. A lot of your workouts will work your abs indirectly (especially legs), and even that, you don't need to spend too much time either since it's not that of a big muscle group to spend a dedicated day on (At most, 15 minutes of ab work is enough).

Finally, about carbs after a workout. After an intense workout, your body is still replacing the lost glycogen used in the muscles. A small, simple carbrohydrate drink during that window will help with the process, as that sugar is used to replace the glycogen at a faster rate than it does normally. Also, a little bit of protein will help as well during this process, but it's more of a ratio of 4:1 carb-protein. It is still okay to eat something an hour before a workout so you don't feel hungry, but not necessarily needed since there's already energy stored in your muscles for your body to use from the previous recovery period. If you workout in the morning, definitely some food to keep the hunger away.


I already run on the treadmill, so I guess I am already using low impact training. Maybe I just can't do cardio the way I want in conjunction with how heavily I abuse my legs. Maybe I'll see when I start eating well/using my single supplement. We will have to see though; lately I have been having to walk to school and it takes me fifteen minutes to even get on campus, and then all the walking I have to do to get around it (Ridiculously large campus), it is starting to suck big time.

Yeah, thanks. I keep meaning to stretch after my workouts, but I always forget haha. And yeah, I have a deloading week coming up this week. It should be a nice break.

I know what you are saying, and normally it only takes me about 20 to 30 minutes to do my abs. Still, I don't want to do them after another workout (I feel like I'll be there too long because most of my workouts take just about an hour), so I simply switch them to another day.

Thanks for the info on carbs. I really need to read up on this stuff from a reliable source sometime.

@Decaf. Thanks for the advice I guess...? I'm doing a variation of the 5x5 system though... Any reason you tell me to scrap mine in particular or...? lol
But I did read the OP and it gave me some info on nutrition. Thanks man :D

~
Got my leg workout in today. Kinda rushed it because I was supposed to go out. But I still killed myself I guess, so it kind of equates? lol.

Next week is a deloading week before I go onto the new routine. Should be a good time, and I'm for sure looking forward to it haha :D I don't know how much I'll be switching it up, but it should be enough.
Victory Loves Preparation
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
September 25 2010 12:36 GMT
#2719
On September 25 2010 09:02 travis wrote:
so eshlow, my posterior deltoids (especially in my right arm) have been sore... a lot... way more than they normally get.

sometimes it feels slightly painful to move my arm a certain direction

im wondering what caused this... it definitely started since i started doing arms to the side planche / hands back manna / really upping my german hang sessions

also wondering if there is anything i can do to help it


Manna, especially MSH and all variations beyond that, are a lot of work on the posterior delts. Same with the front lever and front lever pullup variations.

If you're THAT sore take a few days off and just do flexibility/mobility stuff

On September 25 2010 11:03 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
I have a nutrition-based question.

I've read from multiple sources that you should eat a meal within an hour of getting out of bed. I was wondering if, say, I were to sleep through breakfast (that I normally at at around 0730), wake up at about 1130, and have lunch for the first meal of the day...would that be less than nutritionally ideal? Assuming I eat the same amount of meals in the day I would have had I woken up for breakfast, will my body just treat lunch as breakfast and not be affected?


For health, Sleep > nutrition > training -- (you judge by the amount of time you spend per day doing these things generally).

Look, sleep is highly anabolic and assuming you ate a lot the night before you're not going to do yourself much worse by getting more sleep so....... but I would suggest yo uget on proper sleep schedule.

Fasting is fine if you're eating well nutritionally, but probably not ideal ifyou're tryign to gain mass. So it depends a lot on your goals if this is the case.

On September 25 2010 11:30 unknown.sam wrote:
eshlow, i have an anti-inflamms question.

my knee (the joint specifically) becomes really sore the very next day so i feel like i have to indulge in ibuprofen. is it bad that i take anti-inflamms after every training session?


If it's becoming that sore you probably shouldn't be training on it.

Chronic dosing of anti-inflams can have negative effects on a variety of healing mechanisms in the body... so... it's probably be to take some time off and focus on rehab/prehab stuff instead.

More sleep, better quality nutrition if you've been lacking that, etc.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
September 25 2010 12:37 GMT
#2720
Also, you guys having issues with injuries this type of stuff may help:

http://mobilitywod.blogspot.com/
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