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Please remember that while this thread is for QQ and venting about the game, racism is not tolerated here on LD.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 06 2012 19:57 GMT
#1961
jinada applies to lothars damage. its 337.5 bonus damage when you hit with jinada.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 20:19:20
August 06 2012 20:18 GMT
#1962
On August 07 2012 04:57 rabidch wrote:
jinada applies to lothars damage. its 337.5 bonus damage when you hit with jinada.

Yes, but doesn't Jinada already apply on Shadow Walk damage? You can't have Shadow Walk damage and Lothar's damage on the same attack because casting one breaks the other's effect. So the real gain of Lothar's is only about 70 damage, because if you weren't using Lothar's 150 bonus damage on that attack, you'd be using Shadow Walk's 120 bonus damage.
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
August 06 2012 20:24 GMT
#1963
some srs maff up in dis haus
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
August 06 2012 20:41 GMT
#1964
fire unicorn cant math
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
August 06 2012 20:46 GMT
#1965
no u
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 21:11:09
August 06 2012 21:06 GMT
#1966
nvm. I understood now. fu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
lagmaster
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States374 Posts
August 07 2012 00:09 GMT
#1967
On August 07 2012 05:18 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 04:57 rabidch wrote:
jinada applies to lothars damage. its 337.5 bonus damage when you hit with jinada.

Yes, but doesn't Jinada already apply on Shadow Walk damage? You can't have Shadow Walk damage and Lothar's damage on the same attack because casting one breaks the other's effect. So the real gain of Lothar's is only about 70 damage, because if you weren't using Lothar's 150 bonus damage on that attack, you'd be using Shadow Walk's 120 bonus damage.


150 bonus damage from lothars x 2.25 crit from jinada = 337.5 bonus damage

600+ damage at a pretty low level.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 07 2012 00:12 GMT
#1968
On August 07 2012 05:18 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 04:57 rabidch wrote:
jinada applies to lothars damage. its 337.5 bonus damage when you hit with jinada.

Yes, but doesn't Jinada already apply on Shadow Walk damage? You can't have Shadow Walk damage and Lothar's damage on the same attack because casting one breaks the other's effect. So the real gain of Lothar's is only about 70 damage, because if you weren't using Lothar's 150 bonus damage on that attack, you'd be using Shadow Walk's 120 bonus damage.

it doesnt apply to WW damage. the WW damage is applied on top of the critical. read the combat log
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
August 07 2012 00:25 GMT
#1969
For so much spent on an item just to deal more damage on the initial strike, you might as well get a dagon. In fact, a dagon is cheaper and allows you to nuke from range~
=Þ
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
August 07 2012 00:32 GMT
#1970
I can't tell if rabidch is trolling anymore, I'm so confused.

Wait I just remembered we were discussing shadowblade on BH. Fuck you guys.
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 07 2012 00:34 GMT
#1971
On August 07 2012 09:32 Firebolt145 wrote:
I can't tell if rabidch is trolling anymore, I'm so confused.

Wait I just remembered we were discussing shadowblade on BH. Fuck you guys.

i didnt say whether or not i actually like the item choice. im just stating what it does.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 01:24:43
August 07 2012 01:23 GMT
#1972
On August 07 2012 09:25 Heh_ wrote:
For so much spent on an item just to deal more damage on the initial strike, you might as well get a dagon. In fact, a dagon is cheaper and allows you to nuke from range~

BH is all about jinada. I mean, you need the highest possible red number
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 01:29:21
August 07 2012 01:26 GMT
#1973
On August 07 2012 10:23 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 09:25 Heh_ wrote:
For so much spent on an item just to deal more damage on the initial strike, you might as well get a dagon. In fact, a dagon is cheaper and allows you to nuke from range~

BH is all about jinada. I mean, you need the highest possible red number

Dagon is a red lightning. Pretty close.

Aw yeah. 5 carries in my game. Silencer (me, random), FV, drow, tinker, DK.
=Þ
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
August 07 2012 01:38 GMT
#1974
On August 07 2012 10:23 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 09:25 Heh_ wrote:
For so much spent on an item just to deal more damage on the initial strike, you might as well get a dagon. In fact, a dagon is cheaper and allows you to nuke from range~

BH is all about jinada. I mean, you need the highest possible red number

Well clearly I've been doing it wrong all this time.
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
August 07 2012 01:59 GMT
#1975
On August 07 2012 10:38 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 10:23 Erasme wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:25 Heh_ wrote:
For so much spent on an item just to deal more damage on the initial strike, you might as well get a dagon. In fact, a dagon is cheaper and allows you to nuke from range~

BH is all about jinada. I mean, you need the highest possible red number

Well clearly I've been doing it wrong all this time.

try phase boot into triple bf into mkb. jinada > ww > jinada > ww > jinada > track > jinada > max stats
That's a build for true men
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 07 2012 02:03 GMT
#1976
Damn sometimes i wish i was in the very high queue instead of normal. eventually will get there, but damn. so few games played.

bloodseeker beats my team 100% of the time. because everyone is like OMG i was ruptured time to run in circles and do nothing else. OMG i was silenced and i'm a squishy caster, better sit there and auto attack even though i just watched a teammate get ruptured and i know i can run. OMG we lose their bloodseeker is 2-0. "Bloodseeker is killed by princexizor, prince xizor is godlike". OMG They are all so fed "Enemy Carry is killed by princexizor's carry" "Enemy babysitter is killed by princexizor's carry, Double kill:.

*sigh* I work my butt off getting my carry off to a crazy good start, then go ganking and warding, get blamed for not ganking and warding enough after bloodseeker kills the same 2 people who keep running past river alone with everyone missing for the 10th time.

when BS is on my team, it appears my enemies have mastered the ability to just not...panic. just don't panic... heh.

I hate that character for that sole reason. my team loves to panic every game. even when we are winning horribly, if we lose 1 engagement it's gg.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
August 07 2012 03:27 GMT
#1977
On August 07 2012 04:43 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 04:35 Erasme wrote:
jinada doesnt apply lothar's bonus ?
Shadow walk > Track > lothars > crit ?

Except you can already just do Shadow Walk->Track->Shadow Walk->Crit because the cooldown on Shadow Walk is shorter than the duration after the first rank. Lothar's crits only give about 70 more damage than Shadow Walk Crits--not worth the gold spent on a redundant active.

but think about how fast u run with lothars and track
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
August 07 2012 03:53 GMT
#1978
i guess best build is lothars + dagon + euls, big red numbers + red lightning + super fast yo
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RockIronrod
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia1369 Posts
August 07 2012 04:01 GMT
#1979
Don't forget to build travels and phase.
Narw
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland884 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 04:37:13
August 07 2012 04:33 GMT
#1980
Ok selection screen, i write middle please and proceed to lock QOP, then take it. Last pick on our team, Pudge "i mid i take bootle". At that point, i thought it's just a troll. Nope, it wasn't. He then proceed to 3/15 (with casual save opposite team hero hooks) during whole match. Most funny thing is, we still won that game.
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