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On September 29 2012 07:55 Erasme wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2012 02:26 BlitzerSC wrote:
So I lost a lane vs solo AM as Morph. I tell you how it went. First of, he got haste rune at the beginning, which is fine, then he got a dd rune and started right clicking me, I couldnt do anything because I dont know how many fuckin points he had in mana steal ( or how the fuck that skill is called ). Then RANDOM LYCAN comes to my lane and pushes it under their tower and I get killed by AA and AM.
Ok.
I keep farming and suddenly AM has 6 kills. At the end of the game i get flamed by the guy who randomed lycan ( who killed rosh 14 mins in the game ) and by a leshrac who lost his lane versus pudge and AA ( he was laning with Lion ).
Obviously it was my fault if we lost the game, not the fault of the people who fed other 4 kills to AM and who ignored him all game long. It's ok, random lycan 14 min rosh, gg. Apparently my team was relying on me to carry because TA and Lycan are really bad mid game heroes and morph is a lot better, especially when he lost his lane early and didn't get any help at all. Yeee ! Pro pubs players.
edit: OH RIGHT, I forgot. We pretty much lost because Lycan gave away his second rosh ( I guess that buying a smoke is too expensive for random lycanthrope ). But it's ok, morphling really bad.
tl;dr : I sucked and lost vs AM, then I got flamed by random Lycan and TA who both couldn't carry in the mid game. AM TOO STRONK 20 mins in !!! Are you seriously flaming me ? I just told you that in a 1v1 situation, theres no way you lose against am. Even with full agi, you'll win. Also that am went for vanguard/manta which means yeah he's gonna be a force to be reckon with in the midgame. And their ds was pretty farmed when you had a 25min linkens. No shit we lost it when you wouldn't even come to fight rosh pit when you were bot. Sometimes you really need to calm the fuck down and recognize your mistakes.
First thing, I didnt flame you, I just said that you and lycan couldn't carry in the midgame which is what you are supposed to do and why I went linkens..
Second, I know when I play bad, but after a while it gets really annoying to get flamed especially when you play support and people trashtalk you because of " no kills ".
Third, I can't win 1v1 with full agi vs AM when he gets haste and dd plus lycan pushing my lane under their tower. Also I don't know if you realized but AM can just right click me a couple of times then wait until AA ulti lands on me and then use mana void . = dead morphling.
Fourth, 25 min linkens is not that bad considering Lycan and that I died twice.
Fifth, we are 5 in a team. You all pretty much ganged on me without even considering the other lanes, you got first rosh and then wasted by it chasing them to their secret shop. Maybe you should have just went back instead of chasing since I wasn't there ? Was I even really needed ? I don't think so.
Did I play bad ? Yes I even wrote it in my post.
Did the other 4 players in my team played well ? No, Lycan wasted his first aegis, he pushed my lane, he pretty much gifted the second aegis to them, Lesh didn't kill a single tower, TA tp'd to farm while the enemies were killing our rax. I can keep going for a full day.
Did you have the right to gang on me like that ? No, sometimes you have to look at yourself and realize that you played bad. One guy started flaming me and suddenly all the other 3s followed him because of that stupid "mob lynching" mentality. For some unknown reason I'm always the one who " plays bad " and the other always play perfectly. It gets annoying after a while, you know...
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lost 6 in a row and finally won one as 2v1 mid with morphling holy fuck i havent pulled out that much hair in a while time for bed
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The biggest douche players are always those, that instapick carries or pudge and type "Me safelane / mid" and proceed to feed and then just blame it on the team. Totally forgot why I always had -ap disabled.
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Netherlands45349 Posts
Just on a sidenote, Morphling vs AM is heavily in Morphlings's favor but I have seen some Anti-mages(burning) outlane a Morphling as AM with a PMS and 1-1-1-1 stat build/rune control with blink.
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On September 30 2012 00:34 Kipsate wrote:
Just on a sidenote, Morphling vs AM is heavily in Morphlings's favor but I have seen some Anti-mages(burning) outlane a Morphling as AM with a PMS and 1-1-1-1 stat build/rune control with blink.
yes, I love that laning situation. As soon as you hit lvl 6 you can really fuck am over with replicate and use mana burn on himself.
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On September 30 2012 00:45 StoRm_res wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2012 00:34 Kipsate wrote:
Just on a sidenote, Morphling vs AM is heavily in Morphlings's favor but I have seen some Anti-mages(burning) outlane a Morphling as AM with a PMS and 1-1-1-1 stat build/rune control with blink. yes, I love that laning situation. As soon as you hit lvl 6 you can really fuck am over with replicate and use mana burn on himself.
That's why in burnings case, against SD or morph he only ever gets 1 level in manabreak
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Why the fuck do I need to support a retarded kunkka, mirana, and BH who GAVE AWAY A FUCKING RAPIER.
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Why do people feel the need to point to the carry and say "omfg you suck 30 min no items!" when they themselves have feeded the enemy team so much its impossible for the carry to actually do shit. Its become such a norm it happens in every single game I lose. Doesn't matter if its me playing the carry or someone else. If he's behind, for WHATEVER reason, he's going to get bashed.
Along the same lines, its so incredibly normal to bash the mid hero for "sucking", "feeding" and "no items". When the enemy team have done everything they can do gank him, and no one else on your team has ever bothered to help or place a single ward. Only a few games ago I played mid as invoker, and lenaya dived me not only past T1 tower, but also past T2. No one else on the team TPed, which would instantly have turned the tables and let me dominate my lane instead. And I get flamed for it..
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But he didn't get Lothar. He got a standard noob item for bh, a battlefury first.
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Just unchecked the south american server, it's not worth the ping. The only saving grace is they think I'm gringo and try to talk to me in english, which is mildly amusing.
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They need to implement a personal banlist feature in this game.. So that you can just click someones name on the scoreboard after the game and hit "Banlist" so you don't get matched with them anymore.
I don't even want to guess how many people would be on my banlist at this point. The only confusing thing is that people constantly change their names.. So I guess it would have to ban by steamid or something.
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On September 30 2012 10:21 Enzymatic wrote:
They need to implement a personal banlist feature in this game.. So that you can just click someones name on the scoreboard after the game and hit "Banlist" so you don't get matched with them anymore.
I don't even want to guess how many people would be on my banlist at this point. The only confusing thing is that people constantly change their names.. So I guess it would have to ban by steamid or something.
I would totally want this too, but this apparently wont be coming. There was a long thread on the dev forums about this. They said it screws up match making a lot(like it isnt already :D) .
I especially feel the need when a guy comes in feeds the crap off, or is just a douche in general, and next game you see the same person on your team again o.0.
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On September 29 2012 19:34 FinestHour wrote:
lost 6 in a row and finally won one as 2v1 mid with morphling holy fuck i havent pulled out that much hair in a while time for bed
I had a bad day as well  . Pretty much had 3 games completely won by owning hard in the laning phase, and setting up good ganks, getting farmed/etc. But my teammates drop the ball every time, and fall apart in the lategame.
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3 out of 5 games so far tonight with feeders on my team, hitting 9+ deaths by the 30 min mark. Getting ganked in the lane while I'm mid and calling "mid mia" instantly (called it 3 times over voice, and twice in chat).. Still refusing to back up, getting ganked, then bitching. etc.
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I love this thread. Time for more QQ:
Just played a game in random mm, and figured after a short while that everyone on the team except me was premade...russian premade. They didn't speak a word english, except one which came right before the end.
I played invoker vs Lenaya mid, and did decently, altough she probably had a few more lasthits than me. Suddenly she jumps me, and I figure "hey, lycan (he randombed lycan btw) is in the forest with full hp right next to me! I'll just run up to him, toss coldsnapp, and grab an easy kill". So I start running towards him and ping a couple of times for good measure. He looks at me..and runs off in the other direction. That was first blood. 5 minutes later, enchantress now has 4 deaths in their forest, dragon knight who went solo bot for reasons I'll never understand has 3 deaths (he racks up an amazing score with 2-11 at the end), lycan is still in forest, and barathrum is actually doing somewhat decent (he's 2-2 at this point). Not a single TP or ward was used the entire game.
Needless to say the game was really onesided. Suddenly at one point they all decide to just rush into their T3 tower, while all 5 heroes on the opposite team is alive. I stood outside and managed to toss off 5 spells before the entire team was dead, so I invoker ghost walk and get out, right before the only english word in the entire game is spoken "Invoker sucks"..from Lycan.
Why does this always happen to me? Is my mmr so low that I only get retarded people on my team? How come they're never on the enemy team? And how the hell does the game expect me to gain more mmr when clearly theres no way for me to win a game with allies like this! >.<
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On September 30 2012 23:03 Excludos wrote:
I love this thread. Time for more QQ:
Just played a game in random mm, and figured after a short while that everyone on the team except me was premade...russian premade. They didn't speak a word english, except one which came right before the end.
I played invoker vs Lenaya mid, and did decently, altough she probably had a few more lasthits than me. Suddenly she jumps me, and I figure "hey, lycan (he randombed lycan btw) is in the forest with full hp right next to me! I'll just run up to him, toss coldsnapp, and grab an easy kill". So I start running towards him and ping a couple of times for good measure. He looks at me..and runs off in the other direction. That was first blood. 5 minutes later, enchantress now has 4 deaths in their forest, dragon knight who went solo bot for reasons I'll never understand has 3 deaths (he racks up an amazing score with 2-11 at the end), lycan is still in forest, and barathrum is actually doing somewhat decent (he's 2-2 at this point). Not a single TP or ward was used the entire game.
Needless to say the game was really onesided. Suddenly at one point they all decide to just rush into their T3 tower, while all 5 heroes on the opposite team is alive. I stood outside and managed to toss off 5 spells before the entire team was dead, so I invoker ghost walk and get out, right before the only english word in the entire game is spoken "Invoker sucks"..from Lycan.
Why does this always happen to me? Is my mmr so low that I only get retarded people on my team? How come they're never on the enemy team? And how the hell does the game expect me to gain more mmr when clearly theres no way for me to win a game with allies like this! >.<
I think your MMR problem is sadly true.. When I first started playing, it took me forever to get out of the normal bracket because you'll get matched with braindead players in 50% of games. Finally got out of the normal bracket after like 150 games, there's so much less retarded games!!
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Just gonna leave this here:
https://dotabuff.com/matches/45218693
Seriously. Fuck that shit. Mirana first pick "GOING MID" bh second "i bot lane pick jungle" someone randoms axe, great - an almost sensible group of heroes, holy shit.
sniper.
Fucking picks sniper. Then the bh sits mid for three levels, doesn't get any exp, alchemist has 100% free farm, and mirana flames everyone else, constantly.
This is in the "very high" bracket, apparently, yet there's still miranas who think that kills > winning, someone who thinks that sniper is the best hero to add to a team that already doesn't have proper utility, and three heroes that need farm and a bh who literally does nothing for the first 5 minutes, then instead of doing anything useful GETS A FUCKING DAGON. Against two heroes with innate magic reduction (one's an aura!) and a fed to shit alchemist, he gets a fucking dagon.
Why does this shit happen all the fucking time.
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Team wants to push.
With no wards.
Mid rax down.
Completely outfarmed (expect me).
Versus a blink ES.
Our only "pushing hero" being a 40-min bloodstone Krobelus.
Needless to say, we lost in a fight (at their base) where we actually managed to almost wipe them, but since their team could actually fight, everyone bought back, and we lost the fight - meanwhile our bottom base tower was getting pushed in.
I guess listening me IS JUST TOO HARD. When will people get that warding is one of the most important fucking things in this game? When?
On September 30 2012 23:56 Heh_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2012 23:03 Excludos wrote:
I love this thread. Time for more QQ:
Just played a game in random mm, and figured after a short while that everyone on the team except me was premade...russian premade. They didn't speak a word english, except one which came right before the end.
I played invoker vs Lenaya mid, and did decently, altough she probably had a few more lasthits than me. Suddenly she jumps me, and I figure "hey, lycan (he randombed lycan btw) is in the forest with full hp right next to me! I'll just run up to him, toss coldsnapp, and grab an easy kill". So I start running towards him and ping a couple of times for good measure. He looks at me..and runs off in the other direction. That was first blood. 5 minutes later, enchantress now has 4 deaths in their forest, dragon knight who went solo bot for reasons I'll never understand has 3 deaths (he racks up an amazing score with 2-11 at the end), lycan is still in forest, and barathrum is actually doing somewhat decent (he's 2-2 at this point). Not a single TP or ward was used the entire game.
Needless to say the game was really onesided. Suddenly at one point they all decide to just rush into their T3 tower, while all 5 heroes on the opposite team is alive. I stood outside and managed to toss off 5 spells before the entire team was dead, so I invoker ghost walk and get out, right before the only english word in the entire game is spoken "Invoker sucks"..from Lycan.
Why does this always happen to me? Is my mmr so low that I only get retarded people on my team? How come they're never on the enemy team? And how the hell does the game expect me to gain more mmr when clearly theres no way for me to win a game with allies like this! >.< I think your MMR problem is sadly true.. When I first started playing, it took me forever to get out of the normal bracket because you'll get matched with braindead players in 50% of games. Finally got out of the normal bracket after like 150 games, there's so much less retarded games!!
Is there any indication when you get to "the upper bracket"?
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Played as am, top lane for scourge. I'm against kunkka and witch doctor. Zeus decides to lane with me. He spends his initial gold on a bottle for all the runes he's gonna find in the forest. He stays behind tower, doesn't harass, doesn't use spells, just gets harassed and sent back to fountain.I get 4 man ganked and pushed about 3 times so i'm 0-2. But meanwhile our PA and tide get free farm and push lanes so we win eventually. Of course at 20 min in invoker blames a random death on me for playing carry and not having items. Zeus seizes the opportunity and acts offended that i called him a noob when kunkka and wd were raping me because his bottle was empty. Much like his skull.
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