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Elairec
Profile Joined June 2011
United States410 Posts
September 28 2012 01:24 GMT
#3081
My QQ is a little less conventional. I just started playing the game and am level 2 with 15 real games under my belt. Why must everyone act like they are pro and bitch/whine/complain about every little thing? I tell people I'm new and any advice is appreciated, but mostly it's just a constant bitchfest at the new guy that is apparently going to cause them to lose before the game even starts >_< I stick to supporting roles, buy wards, couriers, try not to feed and tend to like disablers and initiators to start battles. A lot of the time, I could land the perfect black hole, silence their whole team, turn their carry into a sheep follow by stun, then sheep again, but somehow my team just never seems to act upon the advantage? Then when they leave me out to dry and never follow through, I'm the only one left and there is always the one guy who gets pissed that I am "feeding".

Being new to this game is exhausting haha
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
September 28 2012 01:26 GMT
#3082
On September 28 2012 10:24 Elairec wrote:
My QQ is a little less conventional. I just started playing the game and am level 2 with 15 real games under my belt. Why must everyone act like they are pro and bitch/whine/complain about every little thing? I tell people I'm new and any advice is appreciated, but mostly it's just a constant bitchfest at the new guy that is apparently going to cause them to lose before the game even starts >_< I stick to supporting roles, buy wards, couriers, try not to feed and tend to like disablers and initiators to start battles. A lot of the time, I could land the perfect black hole, silence their whole team, turn their carry into a sheep follow by stun, then sheep again, but somehow my team just never seems to act upon the advantage? Then when they leave me out to dry and never follow through, I'm the only one left and there is always the one guy who gets pissed that I am "feeding".

Being new to this game is exhausting haha

Because Dunning–Kruger effect
=Þ
Elairec
Profile Joined June 2011
United States410 Posts
September 28 2012 01:29 GMT
#3083
Nice, I'm not delusional. I just wish people were more respectful to beginners =] I know I'm terrible and that's not going to change by people yelling at me before the game even starts
Meerel
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany713 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-28 01:32:55
September 28 2012 01:32 GMT
#3084
On September 28 2012 10:24 Elairec wrote:
My QQ is a little less conventional. I just started playing the game and am level 2 with 15 real games under my belt. Why must everyone act like they are pro and bitch/whine/complain about every little thing? I tell people I'm new and any advice is appreciated, but mostly it's just a constant bitchfest at the new guy that is apparently going to cause them to lose before the game even starts >_< I stick to supporting roles, buy wards, couriers, try not to feed and tend to like disablers and initiators to start battles. A lot of the time, I could land the perfect black hole, silence their whole team, turn their carry into a sheep follow by stun, then sheep again, but somehow my team just never seems to act upon the advantage? Then when they leave me out to dry and never follow through, I'm the only one left and there is always the one guy who gets pissed that I am "feeding".

Being new to this game is exhausting haha

its because most players are noob aswell and dont understand situations at all. just keep playing and do it good for yourself
SDMF
Narw
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland884 Posts
September 28 2012 03:33 GMT
#3085
On September 28 2012 10:24 Elairec wrote:
My QQ is a little less conventional. I just started playing the game and am level 2 with 15 real games under my belt. Why must everyone act like they are pro and bitch/whine/complain about every little thing? I tell people I'm new and any advice is appreciated, but mostly it's just a constant bitchfest at the new guy that is apparently going to cause them to lose before the game even starts >_< I stick to supporting roles, buy wards, couriers, try not to feed and tend to like disablers and initiators to start battles. A lot of the time, I could land the perfect black hole, silence their whole team, turn their carry into a sheep follow by stun, then sheep again, but somehow my team just never seems to act upon the advantage? Then when they leave me out to dry and never follow through, I'm the only one left and there is always the one guy who gets pissed that I am "feeding".

Being new to this game is exhausting haha


They shoudl't bitch at you, but at Valve for creating this abysmal matchmaking.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10656 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-28 07:07:46
September 28 2012 06:59 GMT
#3086
It kinda sucks when 6 out of 10 of the players are decent, but 5 of em are stacked on one side.

I feel like this has been most of my games as of late.

#soloqueueforlife
Skol
mnck
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1518 Posts
September 28 2012 08:55 GMT
#3087
On September 28 2012 10:24 Elairec wrote:
My QQ is a little less conventional. I just started playing the game and am level 2 with 15 real games under my belt. Why must everyone act like they are pro and bitch/whine/complain about every little thing? I tell people I'm new and any advice is appreciated, but mostly it's just a constant bitchfest at the new guy that is apparently going to cause them to lose before the game even starts >_< I stick to supporting roles, buy wards, couriers, try not to feed and tend to like disablers and initiators to start battles. A lot of the time, I could land the perfect black hole, silence their whole team, turn their carry into a sheep follow by stun, then sheep again, but somehow my team just never seems to act upon the advantage? Then when they leave me out to dry and never follow through, I'm the only one left and there is always the one guy who gets pissed that I am "feeding".

Being new to this game is exhausting haha


Look on youtube for "John Cleese Explaining Stupid" where he explains the Dunning-Kruger effect – which is very applicable to DOTA 2 matchmaking :D

Keep playing and you will learn more and more about the game. And perhaps also learn to ignore flamers, some who are quite likely to be even worse than you, despite having played 10 times the amount of time.
@Munck
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
September 28 2012 14:05 GMT
#3088
On September 28 2012 10:24 Elairec wrote:
My QQ is a little less conventional. I just started playing the game and am level 2 with 15 real games under my belt. Why must everyone act like they are pro and bitch/whine/complain about every little thing? I tell people I'm new and any advice is appreciated, but mostly it's just a constant bitchfest at the new guy that is apparently going to cause them to lose before the game even starts >_< I stick to supporting roles, buy wards, couriers, try not to feed and tend to like disablers and initiators to start battles. A lot of the time, I could land the perfect black hole, silence their whole team, turn their carry into a sheep follow by stun, then sheep again, but somehow my team just never seems to act upon the advantage? Then when they leave me out to dry and never follow through, I'm the only one left and there is always the one guy who gets pissed that I am "feeding".

Being new to this game is exhausting haha


Shit like this happens too often. The advice I'd give is actually dont play full support, play some semi carry is actually the best you can go for. And when you get more experience just play mid hero and win game, do a lot of ganking etc. The thing is most people can only play certain limited amount of heroes which make them delusional on they are good, ie if they didnt get their best heroes their performance would be shit at that game so you will need to play better to compensate that, that's why as a support you are not really 'helping' in that situation. Warding is fcking pointless if your team didnt know to use that vision.

And ya, most (lower tier) players have no clue when is the pushing timing , have advantage->farm more items = allowing the oppo to grow back -> lose game because oppo have more late game heroes (heck, this happens too often in mid/high games). Standard.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10656 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-28 15:44:39
September 28 2012 15:41 GMT
#3089
Sometimes... You just cant carry your team...

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T_T
Skol
Mazer
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada1086 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-28 15:49:06
September 28 2012 15:47 GMT
#3090
Have had a couple bad months of DotA2. Was at +30 games, now I'm down to +10. When I queue with one group of friends (who are all decent), they laugh because I bring them down against 'wood-league' players... At least that nets me a few wins each week.

Anyways, typical DotA2 QQ. Pubs are frustrating as hell:

Pick Omni since no one else supports (and hell, I've played more carries as of late and we already have a few). Buy chicken at start and then wards + flying asap. Stack the pull spawn every time and let Skeleton King take all the last hits. Pull when the lane gets pushed. Even with his ankh and my heals/repel, he still manages to die several times against Sven/Necro. Our Undying in the hard lane is 0-4 before 10 minute mark. Our mid Pudge manages to land a couple hooks but it always leads to him just dying. Misses any hook that we actually want. Decent BH who nets a few kills but decides to give up when the score is 18-10. They 4-man push two towers while I'm begging people to get down to defend at least the Tier 2 but literally no one comes (over a minute passes of me talking/typing/pinging for help). I go from 0-0-2 to 0-5-2 and get bitched at when we're being fountain dived.

Two weeks ago, I had probably the most rage-worthy game where I took Tinker mid. Our randomed Veno decides we need more carries as Alchemist, Mirana, and Sven aren't sufficient and doesn't bother getting courier. I manage to get first blood vs an SF but have to go back to grab my bottle and courier which effectively cancels out the advantage I just had. I request that they at least get wards so I can control the runes and not get ganked. Nope, another thing I need to buy but at that point, I had already lost a few runes (one invis gank that led to my first death). I can't even get Veno to drop a plague ward at the bottom rune spot.I gank but Veno misses a gale which nets no kills, I get counter ganked, top lane loses hard despite dual stuns. Veno saves for a shadow blade which he never completes. Naga + SF wombo combo owns us in a team fight and that was pretty much it. Oh, Veno finally buys some wards right around the time our first set of rax go down. BoT, wand, and bottle at 20:00. Fuuu.

I understand that in pubs you literally can't rely on anyone else but sometimes the circumstances get a little ridiculous.
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-28 17:34:21
September 28 2012 17:26 GMT
#3091
So I lost a lane vs solo AM as Morph. I tell you how it went. First of, he got haste rune at the beginning, which is fine, then he got a dd rune and started right clicking me, I couldnt do anything because I dont know how many fuckin points he had in mana steal ( or how the fuck that skill is called ). Then RANDOM LYCAN comes to my lane and pushes it under their tower and I get killed by AA and AM.
Ok.
I keep farming and suddenly AM has 6 kills. At the end of the game i get flamed by the guy who randomed lycan ( who killed rosh 14 mins in the game ) and by a leshrac who lost his lane versus pudge and AA ( he was laning with Lion ).


Obviously it was my fault if we lost the game, not the fault of the people who fed other 4 kills to AM and who ignored him all game long. It's ok, random lycan 14 min rosh, gg. Apparently my team was relying on me to carry because TA and Lycan are really bad mid game heroes and morph is a lot better, especially when he lost his lane early and didn't get any help at all. Yeee ! Pro pubs players.

edit: OH RIGHT, I forgot. We pretty much lost because Lycan gave away his second rosh ( I guess that buying a smoke is too expensive for random lycanthrope ). But it's ok, morphling really bad.

tl;dr : I sucked and lost vs AM, then I got flamed by random Lycan and TA who both couldn't carry in the mid game. AM TOO STRONK 20 mins in !!!
Aphasia
Profile Joined July 2010
United States15 Posts
September 28 2012 21:38 GMT
#3092
I hate when my allies blame others for losing the game when they have their own flaws in their play. It's just annoying to hear them blame others just to vent their frustration.
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
September 28 2012 22:01 GMT
#3093
On September 29 2012 02:26 BlitzerSC wrote:
So I lost a lane vs solo AM as Morph. I tell you how it went. First of, he got haste rune at the beginning, which is fine, then he got a dd rune and started right clicking me, I couldnt do anything because I dont know how many fuckin points he had in mana steal ( or how the fuck that skill is called ). Then RANDOM LYCAN comes to my lane and pushes it under their tower and I get killed by AA and AM.
Ok.
I keep farming and suddenly AM has 6 kills. At the end of the game i get flamed by the guy who randomed lycan ( who killed rosh 14 mins in the game ) and by a leshrac who lost his lane versus pudge and AA ( he was laning with Lion ).


Obviously it was my fault if we lost the game, not the fault of the people who fed other 4 kills to AM and who ignored him all game long. It's ok, random lycan 14 min rosh, gg. Apparently my team was relying on me to carry because TA and Lycan are really bad mid game heroes and morph is a lot better, especially when he lost his lane early and didn't get any help at all. Yeee ! Pro pubs players.

edit: OH RIGHT, I forgot. We pretty much lost because Lycan gave away his second rosh ( I guess that buying a smoke is too expensive for random lycanthrope ). But it's ok, morphling really bad.

tl;dr : I sucked and lost vs AM, then I got flamed by random Lycan and TA who both couldn't carry in the mid game. AM TOO STRONK 20 mins in !!!


you should never lose a lane vs am as morph, you have range and higher damage with agi morph. late game maybe, comes down to farm. also fighting him when you know he has a dd rune makes zero sense. whenever am wins lane vs other team hard carry it's pretty much gg and that's the reason why it's gg, lycan giving away rosh is of very little importance if am was fat and you were not.
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
September 28 2012 22:15 GMT
#3094
On September 29 2012 07:01 Kabras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 02:26 BlitzerSC wrote:
So I lost a lane vs solo AM as Morph. I tell you how it went. First of, he got haste rune at the beginning, which is fine, then he got a dd rune and started right clicking me, I couldnt do anything because I dont know how many fuckin points he had in mana steal ( or how the fuck that skill is called ). Then RANDOM LYCAN comes to my lane and pushes it under their tower and I get killed by AA and AM.
Ok.
I keep farming and suddenly AM has 6 kills. At the end of the game i get flamed by the guy who randomed lycan ( who killed rosh 14 mins in the game ) and by a leshrac who lost his lane versus pudge and AA ( he was laning with Lion ).


Obviously it was my fault if we lost the game, not the fault of the people who fed other 4 kills to AM and who ignored him all game long. It's ok, random lycan 14 min rosh, gg. Apparently my team was relying on me to carry because TA and Lycan are really bad mid game heroes and morph is a lot better, especially when he lost his lane early and didn't get any help at all. Yeee ! Pro pubs players.

edit: OH RIGHT, I forgot. We pretty much lost because Lycan gave away his second rosh ( I guess that buying a smoke is too expensive for random lycanthrope ). But it's ok, morphling really bad.

tl;dr : I sucked and lost vs AM, then I got flamed by random Lycan and TA who both couldn't carry in the mid game. AM TOO STRONK 20 mins in !!!


you should never lose a lane vs am as morph, you have range and higher damage with agi morph. late game maybe, comes down to farm. also fighting him when you know he has a dd rune makes zero sense. whenever am wins lane vs other team hard carry it's pretty much gg and that's the reason why it's gg, lycan giving away rosh is of very little importance if am was fat and you were not.

i guess it would make a bit of sense if he lost a sidelane, what with the dd rune antimage can deny xp and shit, but mid morph should be just fine as far as i can tell.

Anyway obviously one person in your team is always going to be the worst performer, that doesn't mean you can always blame the loss on that guy, not exactly related i just wanted to qq about that^^
mrk1
Profile Joined January 2011
91 Posts
September 28 2012 22:32 GMT
#3095
Morph is going to get nerfed 6.75 or every other hero buffed or just eblade change.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-29 02:39:07
September 28 2012 22:55 GMT
#3096
On September 29 2012 02:26 BlitzerSC wrote:
So I lost a lane vs solo AM as Morph. I tell you how it went. First of, he got haste rune at the beginning, which is fine, then he got a dd rune and started right clicking me, I couldnt do anything because I dont know how many fuckin points he had in mana steal ( or how the fuck that skill is called ). Then RANDOM LYCAN comes to my lane and pushes it under their tower and I get killed by AA and AM.
Ok.
I keep farming and suddenly AM has 6 kills. At the end of the game i get flamed by the guy who randomed lycan ( who killed rosh 14 mins in the game ) and by a leshrac who lost his lane versus pudge and AA ( he was laning with Lion ).


Obviously it was my fault if we lost the game, not the fault of the people who fed other 4 kills to AM and who ignored him all game long. It's ok, random lycan 14 min rosh, gg. Apparently my team was relying on me to carry because TA and Lycan are really bad mid game heroes and morph is a lot better, especially when he lost his lane early and didn't get any help at all. Yeee ! Pro pubs players.

edit: OH RIGHT, I forgot. We pretty much lost because Lycan gave away his second rosh ( I guess that buying a smoke is too expensive for random lycanthrope ). But it's ok, morphling really bad.

tl;dr : I sucked and lost vs AM, then I got flamed by random Lycan and TA who both couldn't carry in the mid game. AM TOO STRONK 20 mins in !!!

Are you seriously flaming me ? I just told you that in a 1v1 situation, theres no way you lose against am. Even with full agi, you'll win. Also that am went for vanguard/manta which means yeah he's gonna be a force to be reckon with in the midgame. And their ds was pretty farmed when you had a 25min linkens. No shit we lost it when you wouldn't even come to fight rosh pit when you were bot.
Sometimes you really need to calm the fuck down and recognize your mistakes.
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
September 29 2012 01:09 GMT
#3097
This is a QQ but a small QQ as we had a very entertaining game but we get matched vs a 5 men team (we were 5 too), and they pick lycan, naga, furion, leshrac and rubick. One of us randomed dark seer very early or i'm pretty sure they would have picked him too xD
We were ursa, ds, pudge, wisp and vengeful, funnily enough we were ahead in the mid-mid late but then the split push + pushing power of furion lycan and leshrac just killed us very quickly.
Was a good, long game but god, I hated the word "tryhard" before this but now I can understand what tryharding is xD
Amridell
Profile Joined December 2011
188 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-29 08:12:17
September 29 2012 08:10 GMT
#3098
Two of my teammates went bot together, which was okay...until Lina (one of the players) started to suicide our couriers! And then, he bought more. And more...and more...and Shadow Demon (who was laning with him) began to do the same. They massed up couriers, then boxed the enemy. I can only assume they were retarded.

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"As to the pool game. You'll notice he played like a faggot."
Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
September 29 2012 08:36 GMT
#3099
I had a one week break. First game -sd. I chose Tide, we had: Axe, Panda, WL & Leoric. WL & Leo went bot, Panda refused to go mid against tiny for whatever reason, so axe was going: nd of the story: Panda was the big flamer, being 1-3 whole game, used his ult ONCE, which was in fountain after 35 minutes into the game ended up 1-6, was the msot completely most retarded Pandaplayer I've ever seen.
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Sassback
Profile Joined September 2012
United States718 Posts
September 29 2012 08:44 GMT
#3100
My qq is a sad sad tale. I was playing Dota 2, having a grand old time playing with some friends, and i was winning. Didn't have a care in the world, then, DISASTER! My computer shuts down, except, it won't turn back on. My computer was old, you see, a little too old and i had to use ice packs to keep it from overheating. But one of the ice packs had a hole in it, and decided that my computer not only needed to be cool, but also have a refreshing drink as well. Now I don't have a laptop, and I haven't played Dota 1 or 2 in almost a month. I'm so sad, I miss it so bad...
Every night I pray for TL to give me my SAD Boys flair, and every morning I wake up disappointed.
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