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On September 26 2012 08:06 Enzymatic wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2012 06:59 Excludos wrote:
This has started happening a lot lately, and its really getting on my nerves. People who doesn't know how to communicate. Heres a protip: Pinging is used to get someone's attention to a specific point on the map. It is NOT a form of communication. Pinging 30 times on me is not going to tell me anything. If you had pinged once in lane OR written "lets gank this guy", I might have gotten the que.
Talking about communicating. I'm starting to think the majority of Europeans does not know a word English. Not rarely do I ask "Why didn't anyone TP down?" or "Why do you think you can solo as mortred vs a trilane?" only to be shouted at with a "tard" and "stfu noob". This is especially annoying when I'm trying to genuinely explain something to someone so we might win a game: "Listen, Enigma. Your blackhole is NOT a nuke. It needs to channel. That means after you cast it, you don't move or do anything until its done" followed by their "stfu tard".
Listen shitheads. If you want to play a teamgame in a region where English is the dominating language, you better start learning English!
edit: While I'm at it. Now that Russians have their own server, why in gods name do they play on the european server? I hear its because even Russians cant stand other Russians. But its really infuriating to only have russian language being spoken in the chat >.< lol, you're confused at how they end up on the european servers? Try getting a pair of 2 of them playing on US East... Theres literally like 5 more relevant servers that they will ping far better to, yet for some reason they choose to also select the US servers when they Q up. Like I'm starting to think some of them do it specifically just to grief/irritate their teammates they get on the U.S server with the fact that they're russian and can't communicate. It makes me want to do the same and do a few games on the russian server, constantly talk in english all caps the entire game, and just jungle non-stop for 50 minutes. See how they like it.
Holy shit that's a really good idea!
Actually, I think you'll be more annoying if you type in Chinese.
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Sometimes it feels like raging in All chat at retards is just the kick(or, overconfidence booster for other team) that is needed for my team to win the match.
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I nearly played DotA this week and last week since they released Geo. Being playing SC2...
Hopefully they add 3 heroes tomorrow (Dusa, Magnataur and Slark) and people forgets about goddamn Geo!
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Really close game, except that our invoker was level eleven 35 minutes in. Our ta and ursa manage to catch their prophet and naix. We rosh because the lanes are not pushed enough to take rax. Invoker takes it, we lost.
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On September 26 2012 07:44 CustomKal wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2012 06:59 Excludos wrote:
This has started happening a lot lately, and its really getting on my nerves. People who doesn't know how to communicate. Heres a protip: Pinging is used to get someone's attention to a specific point on the map. It is NOT a form of communication. Pinging 30 times on me is not going to tell me anything. If you had pinged once in lane OR written "lets gank this guy", I might have gotten the que.
Talking about communicating. I'm starting to think the majority of Europeans does not know a word English. Not rarely do I ask "Why didn't anyone TP down?" or "Why do you think you can solo as mortred vs a trilane?" only to be shouted at with a "tard" and "stfu noob". This is especially annoying when I'm trying to genuinely explain something to someone so we might win a game: "Listen, Enigma. Your blackhole is NOT a nuke. It needs to channel. That means after you cast it, you don't move or do anything until its done" followed by their "stfu tard".
Listen shitheads. If you want to play a teamgame in a region where English is the dominating language, you better start learning English!
edit: While I'm at it. Now that Russians have their own server, why in gods name do they play on the european server? I hear its because even Russians cant stand other Russians. But its really infuriating to only have russian language being spoken in the chat >.< Just so you know, there are Europian countries where Russian is a first language (take Ukraine for example, one of the largest dota populations as well). Just because they SPEAK Russian, doesn't make them Russian. Its more confusing how they end up on US east or west. Now THAT I can't stand.
How about if you speak Russian, you play on Russian server..? I just cant stand people who thinks dota is a singleplayer game. In the words of Pyrion: In no other game can you quite fuck your own teammates like in dota 2.
On September 26 2012 08:06 Enzymatic wrote:
lol, you're confused at how they end up on the european servers? Try getting a pair of 2 of them playing on US East... Theres literally like 5 more relevant servers that they will ping far better to, yet for some reason they choose to also select the US servers when they Q up.
Like I'm starting to think some of them do it specifically just to grief/irritate their teammates they get on the U.S server with the fact that they're russian and can't communicate.
It makes me want to do the same and do a few games on the russian server, constantly talk in english all caps the entire game, and just jungle non-stop for 50 minutes. See how they like it.
Admittedly I do this all the time. But only if I have a stacked team with me. It just feels so refreshing finally being able to grief them back (+ the server is located in Sweden for reasons no one really understands, so I have a lot better ping to it).
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That reminds me of my sig from PD forum:
If you want to play 'the way you want', don't play team based games. If I play football but only stand at the corner of the field dancing with the corner flag because 'I like to play that way' I get kicked out of the team.
Dota is no different. It's a competetive game and if you are ruining the game you deserve to be bashed.
Dota1 was fine, like seriously everyone/team is random anyway, but in dota2 MM matches you with 'similar' skill levels players, without teamwork = autolose.
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ok so I am ethnically Russian, and I can't stand stereotypes.. But damn this one is so true=(. When paired with Russians odds truly are that they will be a huge liability and they really are usually terrible to play with, even if they are individually good. (although one of the more skilled and pretty much nicest guy I play with is Russian, but again, odds..).
Ffs gtfo of US East and let us play in peace. There's no reason to be there. US West I kinda understand. I'm guessing those are east Russians that don't want to play on Asian servers (although if you don't speak English, what;s the difference?).. But why US East?
And for those of you complaining that they do not speak english, you don't know what you're asking for. Yeah it really sucks that there's 0 communication and all you see is "xaxaxa noob", but listening to some of their nonsense is even worse. Last game played with 2 Russians, one of them makes a small mistake, another one responds (NSFW):
+ Show Spoiler +WTF You idiot noob dumb fuck cum eating motherfucking cunt why didn't you tp to save the fucking tower you cock sucking retard
And it was actually a lot worse in Russian. The rest of the game proceeds with the guy that was being flamed not helping the flamer (understandable), and the flamer continues to spew even more shit. When it's obvious we will lose the otherwise won game, I tell him he is at fault for the loss because he was so rude and that's why he is being ignored. He calls me a stupid moron cause I'm a noob and don't know what I am talking about. And he was actually pretty good skill wise (maybe even best player on both sides), but how do you play as a team with someone like that? It's even more sad that he really didn't understand what he did wrong.
Not really sure where the misplaced superiority complex and the need to be BM comes from, but when I first saw ppl complain about Russians I thought those people that were stereotyping were assholes, now I can totally relate. Manner up comrades!
To be fair, i did see a few Americans act in a similar way, but way less often statistically, and not to the same degree. Is there a correlation btw being an ass and playing cross server? And when will ppl realize that to be a really good player you also need to learn how to lead and suggest improvements without being a dick? Equally can't stand people that call new players retards instead of trying to help them and your chances of winning at the same time. They are simply new to the game, you are the retarded one for bming and making things even worse.
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ppl who choose meepo when there's so much aoe dmg
wtf
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On September 26 2012 07:19 Kabras wrote:
Man fuck this game and fuck valve's matchmaking system. How the fuck is it possible for a lvl 14 player to get matched with a lvl 1 first dota game in his life retard? Randoms lich, gets no items, a-moves to enemy tower protoss style. 5 minutes later buys a courier and keeps it in his hero inventory as a core
Dude I just laughed so hard,feel bad for you though :D
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On September 26 2012 09:01 Excludos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2012 07:44 CustomKal wrote:On September 26 2012 06:59 Excludos wrote:
This has started happening a lot lately, and its really getting on my nerves. People who doesn't know how to communicate. Heres a protip: Pinging is used to get someone's attention to a specific point on the map. It is NOT a form of communication. Pinging 30 times on me is not going to tell me anything. If you had pinged once in lane OR written "lets gank this guy", I might have gotten the que.
Talking about communicating. I'm starting to think the majority of Europeans does not know a word English. Not rarely do I ask "Why didn't anyone TP down?" or "Why do you think you can solo as mortred vs a trilane?" only to be shouted at with a "tard" and "stfu noob". This is especially annoying when I'm trying to genuinely explain something to someone so we might win a game: "Listen, Enigma. Your blackhole is NOT a nuke. It needs to channel. That means after you cast it, you don't move or do anything until its done" followed by their "stfu tard".
Listen shitheads. If you want to play a teamgame in a region where English is the dominating language, you better start learning English!
edit: While I'm at it. Now that Russians have their own server, why in gods name do they play on the european server? I hear its because even Russians cant stand other Russians. But its really infuriating to only have russian language being spoken in the chat >.< Just so you know, there are Europian countries where Russian is a first language (take Ukraine for example, one of the largest dota populations as well). Just because they SPEAK Russian, doesn't make them Russian. Its more confusing how they end up on US east or west. Now THAT I can't stand. How about if you speak Russian, you play on Russian server..? I just cant stand people who thinks dota is a singleplayer game. In the words of Pyrion: In no other game can you quite fuck your own teammates like in dota 2. Show nested quote +On September 26 2012 08:06 Enzymatic wrote:
lol, you're confused at how they end up on the european servers? Try getting a pair of 2 of them playing on US East... Theres literally like 5 more relevant servers that they will ping far better to, yet for some reason they choose to also select the US servers when they Q up.
Like I'm starting to think some of them do it specifically just to grief/irritate their teammates they get on the U.S server with the fact that they're russian and can't communicate.
It makes me want to do the same and do a few games on the russian server, constantly talk in english all caps the entire game, and just jungle non-stop for 50 minutes. See how they like it.
Admittedly I do this all the time. But only if I have a stacked team with me. It just feels so refreshing finally being able to grief them back (+ the server is located in Sweden for reasons no one really understands, so I have a lot better ping to it).
They don't play on russia cause its shitty ping? Language doesn't dictate your ping...
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Just had a game where I had to play CM in the long lane with QoP vs Silencer and Sven.
Went fine, we kept trading kills, and either of those for a CM was fine. A lot of those trades could've not been trades if QoP hadn't decided to follow Silencer back to his tower while I was getting wailed on by Sven directly under ours, but it wasn't that bad.
Then Bloodseeker disconnected and everyone decided pauses were for faggots. 4 mins later, we pause for a minute because at that point it was rather pointless, and thus the best thing to do. After a two minute pause, we unpause, thinking he won't come back. He does, so he's we saved him from an abandon, cool.
Then the game turns to shit since no one can last hit and their TA has Deso/Butterfly while the largest item on our team was Bloodseekers Sange. Everyone's taking turns laughing in tagalog about how underleveled I was, and the enemy team never fucking pushes ever.
Then when they finally take rax, they fountain camp for so long I get an abandon, being utterly unable to do anything.
God fucking damn this game.
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me invoker, my team picks 4 melees after that. first fail.
2 carries am and jug insist on laning together. 2nd fail.
i do fine, dominate mid, get 4-5 kills on ganks early. yay!
35 minutes in i can 1v1 evryone on enemy team, some even 1v2. our am has treads,vanguard,quelling. jugg phase,vit booster, wand. final fail.
mm is fun!
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More venting to do..
https://dotabuff.com/matches/43822700
I go 21-2 Beyond godlike on AM and my team loses the game; teammates feed like crazy... I have Bane, WD, and Pugna as supports on my team against Tinker, QoP, Rubick, PA, Brewmaster.. 3-4 heavy spell damage heroes on their team (factoring in brewmaster ult, etc)... And zero support items from any of the supports on my team by the end of the 56 minute game. No pipe for all their spell dmg, no mek, no drums. Our pugna goes scepter instead.. zzz.
So frustrating. Why am I the only one on my team that ever knows to get pipe against lots of spell dmg, mek, and ward when I'm support? Fuck solo pubbing.
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Won this game, but just thought it was funny:
CM, picks went okay for us. Our team is Tide, Morph, Lesh, Windrunner, Rubick against Invoker, DS, NP, Lina and Sven.
This is where things get funny. Lesh suddenly decides that he's captain and wants to decide lanes. WR is suicide solo which is fine, but then he wants morph mid, and himself, myself(rubick) and tide in a trilane bottom. So now we have 3 supports in a trilane bottom with a morphling against an invoker mid. Cool.
I get first set of wards and plant one overlooking the bottom rune in the river (and thus the gank paths from mid). He then tells me that my ward placement is bad and that I should have placed it in the jungle (to protect our triple support trilane from jungle attacks from their suicide dark seer apparently).
Now we need to decide who gets the farm bottom. Captain lesh decides that tide should get all the farm. So poor tide stands there and has to wait until the ion shell that DS is spamming wears off before he tries to get last hits. Or he just takes a lot of damage. Was mainly a combo of both. Then lesh gives advice to tide on what to do with this farm that he's getting as a result of our trilane: Tide needs refresher. That's right, no dagger, no mana boots, nothing. Rush refresher.
Lesh's item build went something like this:
Boots. RoH. Drums recipe. Bracer. Finish drums recipe. --> other stuff by when we've pretty much already won.
Luckily we still won because morph knew what he was doing and somehow managed to fend off invoker mid, tide wasn't stupid and did in fact buy mana boots and dagger, helped ward and didn't buy refresher, and the fact that the other team didn't actually pick a hard carry. Whoo. Could have ended up as one giant QQ though.
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On September 26 2012 13:15 CustomKal wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2012 09:01 Excludos wrote:On September 26 2012 07:44 CustomKal wrote:On September 26 2012 06:59 Excludos wrote:
This has started happening a lot lately, and its really getting on my nerves. People who doesn't know how to communicate. Heres a protip: Pinging is used to get someone's attention to a specific point on the map. It is NOT a form of communication. Pinging 30 times on me is not going to tell me anything. If you had pinged once in lane OR written "lets gank this guy", I might have gotten the que.
Talking about communicating. I'm starting to think the majority of Europeans does not know a word English. Not rarely do I ask "Why didn't anyone TP down?" or "Why do you think you can solo as mortred vs a trilane?" only to be shouted at with a "tard" and "stfu noob". This is especially annoying when I'm trying to genuinely explain something to someone so we might win a game: "Listen, Enigma. Your blackhole is NOT a nuke. It needs to channel. That means after you cast it, you don't move or do anything until its done" followed by their "stfu tard".
Listen shitheads. If you want to play a teamgame in a region where English is the dominating language, you better start learning English!
edit: While I'm at it. Now that Russians have their own server, why in gods name do they play on the european server? I hear its because even Russians cant stand other Russians. But its really infuriating to only have russian language being spoken in the chat >.< Just so you know, there are Europian countries where Russian is a first language (take Ukraine for example, one of the largest dota populations as well). Just because they SPEAK Russian, doesn't make them Russian. Its more confusing how they end up on US east or west. Now THAT I can't stand. How about if you speak Russian, you play on Russian server..? I just cant stand people who thinks dota is a singleplayer game. In the words of Pyrion: In no other game can you quite fuck your own teammates like in dota 2. On September 26 2012 08:06 Enzymatic wrote:
lol, you're confused at how they end up on the european servers? Try getting a pair of 2 of them playing on US East... Theres literally like 5 more relevant servers that they will ping far better to, yet for some reason they choose to also select the US servers when they Q up.
Like I'm starting to think some of them do it specifically just to grief/irritate their teammates they get on the U.S server with the fact that they're russian and can't communicate.
It makes me want to do the same and do a few games on the russian server, constantly talk in english all caps the entire game, and just jungle non-stop for 50 minutes. See how they like it.
Admittedly I do this all the time. But only if I have a stacked team with me. It just feels so refreshing finally being able to grief them back (+ the server is located in Sweden for reasons no one really understands, so I have a lot better ping to it). They don't play on russia cause its shitty ping? Language doesn't dictate your ping...
On September 26 2012 09:46 BurningSera wrote:That reminds me of my sig from PD forum: Show nested quote +
If you want to play 'the way you want', don't play team based games. If I play football but only stand at the corner of the field dancing with the corner flag because 'I like to play that way' I get kicked out of the team.
Dota is no different. It's a competetive game and if you are ruining the game you deserve to be bashed.
Dota1 was fine, like seriously everyone/team is random anyway, but in dota2 MM matches you with 'similar' skill levels players, without teamwork = autolose.
Besides, I get 50 ping on the EU server and 30 on the Russia server, presumably they have it opposite. 50 ping is not a lot. Certainly not enough to join someone's game and ruin it for the other 4 on your team. I don't visit the Russia server alone either, because I would have a terrible time not understanding what anyone said.
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Wow, so sad right now. I played MM with a friend, I was veno and went #5 support, bought courir, upgraded, pulled and went to stack all the time to give our carry most of the XP and gold, roamed around to ward and anti ward whole game, sat plauge wards for optimal vision all the time (they had strong iniation heroes like Tiny and PotM), always got away my gale and posion nova in team fights before I died.
But our lineup sucked and our lack of stuns lost us the game in the end. I then get flamed by 3 of my teammates that picked an awful lineup and played bad "lol veno feeder" "no items so bad, buy items retard" "uninstall this game" and when the discussion about support and what I did the whole game came up I get to hear "no one asked you to play support like that".
Just wow. I don't usually play support on pubs, but because I got venomancer this game I did it for the team. Will probably never do that ever again. If "main supporters" get this shit often then I'm so fucking sorry for you guys.
Q fucking Q
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On September 27 2012 00:39 Gosi wrote:
Wow, so sad right now. I played MM with a friend, I was veno and went #5 support, bought courir, upgraded, pulled and went to stack all the time to give our carry most of the XP and gold, roamed around to ward and anti ward whole game, sat plauge wards for optimal vision all the time (they had strong iniation heroes like Tiny and PotM), always got away my gale and posion nova in team fights before I died.
But our lineup sucked and our lack of stuns lost us the game in the end. I then get flamed by 3 of my teammates that picked an awful lineup and played bad "lol veno feeder" "no items so bad, buy items retard" "uninstall this game" and when the discussion about support and what I did the whole game came up I get to hear "no one asked you to play support like that".
Just wow. I don't usually play support on pubs, but because I got venomancer this game I did it for the team. Will probably never do that ever again. If "main supporters" get this shit often then I'm so fucking sorry for you guys.
Q fucking Q
Its true. You cant go support in this game in random MM. You'll always be the noob who doesn't have any items (which is kind of obvious when you're buying all the wards, courier, smoke, dust, whatever else the team needs). That + you have to rely on someone else carrying the game who might or might not do a good job about it. So it ends up kinda random if you win or not, thus you'll never gain more MMR. Easiest choice is to pick a hardcarry or ganker yourself.
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On September 27 2012 00:50 Excludos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2012 00:39 Gosi wrote:
Wow, so sad right now. I played MM with a friend, I was veno and went #5 support, bought courir, upgraded, pulled and went to stack all the time to give our carry most of the XP and gold, roamed around to ward and anti ward whole game, sat plauge wards for optimal vision all the time (they had strong iniation heroes like Tiny and PotM), always got away my gale and posion nova in team fights before I died.
But our lineup sucked and our lack of stuns lost us the game in the end. I then get flamed by 3 of my teammates that picked an awful lineup and played bad "lol veno feeder" "no items so bad, buy items retard" "uninstall this game" and when the discussion about support and what I did the whole game came up I get to hear "no one asked you to play support like that".
Just wow. I don't usually play support on pubs, but because I got venomancer this game I did it for the team. Will probably never do that ever again. If "main supporters" get this shit often then I'm so fucking sorry for you guys.
Q fucking Q
Its true. You cant go support in this game in random MM. You'll always be the noob who doesn't have any items (which is kind of obvious when you're buying all the wards, courier, smoke, dust, whatever else the team needs). That + you have to rely on someone else carrying the game who might or might not do a good job about it. So it ends up kinda random if you win or not, thus you'll never gain more MMR. Easiest choice is to pick a hardcarry or ganker yourself.
Yeah usually I play some mid or long lane iniation/ganker while calling, but it didn't end up like this that game. I guess it was a fresh reminder for me why I started to play my "style" and heroes of choice from the beginning instead of picking what is best for the team.
Haha but seriously, I think I played one of my best support games ever that game and then get flamed like that, jeez. Best thing was how they called me and my friend fat american scums lol. We played on EU and we even wrote in swedish in teamchat sometimes. Don't know what that came from. ~~
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That moment when you get a game, but someone cancels while you tab back in. And out of instinct you want to press the play game button, but the only button there is Cancel Search.
QQ
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On September 27 2012 00:39 Gosi wrote:
Wow, so sad right now. I played MM with a friend, I was veno and went #5 support, bought courir, upgraded, pulled and went to stack all the time to give our carry most of the XP and gold, roamed around to ward and anti ward whole game, sat plauge wards for optimal vision all the time (they had strong iniation heroes like Tiny and PotM), always got away my gale and posion nova in team fights before I died.
But our lineup sucked and our lack of stuns lost us the game in the end. I then get flamed by 3 of my teammates that picked an awful lineup and played bad "lol veno feeder" "no items so bad, buy items retard" "uninstall this game" and when the discussion about support and what I did the whole game came up I get to hear "no one asked you to play support like that".
Just wow. I don't usually play support on pubs, but because I got venomancer this game I did it for the team. Will probably never do that ever again. If "main supporters" get this shit often then I'm so fucking sorry for you guys.
Q fucking Q
What level do you play? I don't ever remember happening to me and I play support quite often. People are usually grateful when i play the support role.
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